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On April 22 2013 18:07 sc2superfan101 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 18:04 Brian333 wrote:
It's unfortunate what happened during registration, but two wrongs don't make a right. At the very least, if you're going to attempt to do this, you need to contact the appropriate admins well before you go through with it. As unfair as it was to the Chinese players in regards to their registration problems, it's also incredibly unfair to the players that Comm played against under the name Fruitsbasket.
I really don't get how there can be so many people supporting what Comm did. Unless he contacted all his potential opponents well in advance and notified them of who he was, it's incredibly unfair. As opposed to people who went under the name: "Yoloswag420"? There was no reason to DQ the guy. Warn him, punish him, whatever. But DQing? I thought, and still think, that this whole WCS system will be good for the scene... but they really need to step up their game. This qualifier was pathetic.
My feelings exactly.
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As much as I want WCS to have region requirements, this is quite dumb.
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Naruto is quite right. As hyperbolic as it sounds, an individual with an rng and an excel spreadsheet could have done a vetter job than mlg. If that isnt a damning indictment of their organisation then I don't know what is.
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Jesus. This just keeps getting sillier. He shouldn't have been forced into this situation to begin with. The fact that China's best players were overlooked and left out is just ridiculous, this is just the cherry on top.
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China6330 Posts
Not going to watch or support MLG in any form ever again.
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They should thank Comm, he fixed a major bug in their tournament, but instead of thanking him they punish him for fixing up their own tournament.
Just stupid overall, someone else said it too, first 520 to register get in is just plain retarded in a professional scene. That is how it goes with amateur leagues, the pro's get in no matter what. This happens pretty much in every sport.
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It's not like Comm has a playstyle people all know so that him smurfing would've made it harder to play against him. Nobody knows how the Chinese play anyways.
They should've let him take the amateur's spot, he is the WCS China champion. Blizzard is doing a damn good job of making sure China cares as little as possible about Starcraft 2.
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wtf MLG? that's just really silly. disappointing
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United Kingdom12022 Posts
Just stupid overall, someone else said it too, first 520 to register get in is just plain retarded in a professional scene. That is how it goes with amateur leagues, the pro's get in no matter what. This happens pretty much in every sport.
Did MLG ever come out and say why it was that few spots? Wasn't there a day in EU with like a round of 2048 or something?
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Russian Federation216 Posts
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On April 22 2013 18:22 Zzoram wrote:
It's not like Comm has a playstyle people all know so that him smurfing would've made it harder to play against him. Nobody knows how the Chinese play anyways.
They should've let him take the amateur's spot, he is the WCS China champion. Blizzard is doing a damn good job of making sure China cares as little as possible about Starcraft 2.
That's not Blizzard's fault on that one.
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
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As an answer to all the "but these are the rules, we can not make any exception, even if it is stupid". Of course you can. This whole crappy simili-legalistic system, just like banning hackers requires absolute proof lie a picture of him holding a sign "i'm hacking" infuriates me. That's not even how real life justice works, you know? and there is a reason for that.
A rule stupid in a precise context is not enforced, that's why RL justice is not given by computers, but by people able to understand the give and takes of a situation, and to seek fairness.
Simply put: "this guy is smurfing , even if we know who he is, and can check it between games, let's ban him !" : crappy admin job
"ok what is the fairest and smartest way to treat this problem? let this totally legit guy play!" Good job. Real life exemple, stephano typing ingame "GLHF" in a pro league match, just getting a warning, not getting DQed since he didn't know the rule. Sadly it seems that even in administrating a tourney koreans are better...
We really need the Muhammadjesusspaghettimonster admin like Incontrol said in a SOTG, to give ACTUAL smart (only logical would probably do the job) solutions to problems without having to justify himself to the internets.
On the topic, crappy qualifiers, total train wreck, i just hope they do another one, even if that means changing slightly the format. Probably impossible, but a man can dream.
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Has MLG or Sundance or anyone said anything regarding this? The whole mess with the Chinese players really needs to be addressed, and remaining silent is the worst thing they could do in this situation.
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tbh, didn't expect anything else from mlg.
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On April 22 2013 18:22 Zzoram wrote:
It's not like Comm has a playstyle people all know so that him smurfing would've made it harder to play against him. Nobody knows how the Chinese play anyways.
They should've let him take the amateur's spot, he is the WCS China champion. Blizzard is doing a damn good job of making sure China cares as little as possible about Starcraft 2.
but look, in the grand scheme of things it is probably an insignificant oversight, unless of course you are a rabid chinese fan.
the wcs china champion got crushed 2-0 by thestc, there's nothing to argue about here really. how far do you think he would have gone?
of course it's not good for sc2 growth in china but let's talk common sense here, is having chinese players playing in a NA tournament logical? someone needs to look at a world map, i wonder which country is right next to china?
and realistically speaking if they were THAT good they'd probably be in a kespa team by now, which would be both convenient for the players and good for the fans.
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I really don't get how there can be so many people supporting what Comm did. Unless he contacted all his potential opponents well in advance and notified them of who he was, it's incredibly unfair.
He told them before he played them which is pretty much the same amount of time everybody else gets in an online bracket play. This isn't a weekly elimination bracket like in the GSL where you practice in advance. This is the "you get 5 minutes before starting the next game" type of deal.
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On April 22 2013 18:25 LeLfe wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 18:22 Zzoram wrote:
It's not like Comm has a playstyle people all know so that him smurfing would've made it harder to play against him. Nobody knows how the Chinese play anyways.
They should've let him take the amateur's spot, he is the WCS China champion. Blizzard is doing a damn good job of making sure China cares as little as possible about Starcraft 2. That's not Blizzard's fault on that one.
Agreed. MLG did this on their own. Although I wonder if Comm was considered for a direct invite spot as the WCS China champion. How big was Blizzards' involvement in picking the non American invites?
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