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Serimek
Profile Joined August 2011
France2274 Posts
April 10 2013 19:50 GMT
#41
On April 11 2013 04:41 SnowfaLL wrote:
typical blizzard really; I had my name banned on Europe before.. yes, this name, "SnowfaLL" - was banned as sexual content..


How can SnowfaLL can be understood as sexual ? Is my understanding of English too limited ?
SC2 is the best game to watch and was the best to play before I grew old and slow...
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
April 10 2013 19:50 GMT
#42
Blizzard striving to follow the ever-so-successful EA business model: fuck over your fanbase repeatedly, still sell millions of new (and shittier-than-predecessor) titles.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
April 10 2013 19:51 GMT
#43
I think this current community is built on the hatred of Blizzard or something. Even though it's probably the smallest part of the SC2 team that made this mistake, down with Blizzard!

I bet a very large % of the people here wouldn't know this was a BW map without it being in the OP
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
April 10 2013 19:51 GMT
#44
On April 11 2013 04:50 OpticalShot wrote:
Blizzard striving to follow the ever-so-successful EA business model: fuck over your fanbase repeatedly, still sell millions of new (and shittier-than-predecessor) titles.

Maybe we should get them voted as worst company for 2014?
Inimic
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada153 Posts
April 10 2013 19:52 GMT
#45
Blizzard striving to follow the ever-so-successful EA business model: fuck over your fanbase repeatedly, still sell millions of new (and shittier-than-predecessor) titles.


It'll be hard to one-up EA on that front, but I'm sure they'll try their hardest.
Xylocaine
Profile Joined November 2010
France56 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 19:55:09
April 10 2013 19:52 GMT
#46
On April 11 2013 04:36 Penev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 04:30 Xylocaine wrote:
On April 11 2013 04:23 kingjames01 wrote:
Also, the swastika that the Nazis used rotated clockwise... So this doesn't even match!


I have really limited knowledge on the matter, but as far as I know, both configurations are frowned upon because, since the flags could be seen from both sides, both shapes got to be associated with the Nazi party.

Sucks for the mapmaker ;s goes to show how the customer support / GM's aren't necessarily the people who know the game the most lol

No, the nazi swastika rotates clockwise. That people frown upon anti clockwise ones (and the ones used in other cultures) is just ignorance. This guys' ban is a double fail by some employee but I imagine he could get his ban lifted.

When I say "both shapes got to be associated", I'm not saying it was rightfully so lol.
In the end, Blizzard will want to limit what the users view as offensive. If (ignorant) users do find it offensive, Blizzard will issue approprate action.

In other words, you have to picture that, on the other side of the report (because, if you read the message, it implicates that the map was reported as offensive as far as I know), you may well have some random dude whose entire ancestry was whiped by Nazi Germany, and Blizzard not listening to him would just be a much bigger rep hit than just temp banning some random dude. Imagine the head GM at blizzard having to report to the finance team, because his department didn't ban a map featuring a Swatiska, and it ended in 50 different blogs, and people allegedly started boycotting the game because of that.

I'm not saying what Blizzard did was good (as far as I'm concerned I don't really mind the Swatiska by itself to be honest, although I'm obviously not happy about what happened during WW2), I'm just saying that the customer rep's reaction was logical and totally expectable.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
April 10 2013 19:52 GMT
#47
On April 11 2013 04:50 OpticalShot wrote:
Blizzard striving to follow the ever-so-successful EA business model: fuck over your fanbase repeatedly, still sell millions of new (and shittier-than-predecessor) titles.


Comparing Blizzard with EA is just stupidity on your part and you should feel bad for even suggesting it. As someone who bought SimCity(lol), FIFA for the Vita (lol) and Madden for the Vita (lol), stop being overdramatic.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 10 2013 19:53 GMT
#48
Um that swastika isn't anything negative.

I'm pretty sure the Finnish air force had that swastika as well. It's a positive sign
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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 10 2013 19:53 GMT
#49
On April 11 2013 04:50 OpticalShot wrote:
Blizzard striving to follow the ever-so-successful EA business model: fuck over your fanbase repeatedly, still sell millions of new (and shittier-than-) titles.

If this is an example you can find of "fucking over your fanbase", you are really stretching it.

Omg Blizzard doesn't like maps with swastikas on them, how dare they!
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 19:54:25
April 10 2013 19:53 GMT
#50
If the original Sniper Ridge map did not exist, no one would claim that removing the b.net version is a perfectly legitimate exercise of Blizzard's power. The fact that the original map does exist does not change the situation in any significant way. There is no case against Blizzard here. The map seems intentionally offensive to anyone who did not follow competitive BW, and more than 99% of the b.net community did not follow competitive BW. The fact that "it's backwards" is not significant either in determining whether the map is offensive.
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AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 19:57:50
April 10 2013 19:54 GMT
#51
On April 11 2013 04:50 Serimek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 04:41 SnowfaLL wrote:
typical blizzard really; I had my name banned on Europe before.. yes, this name, "SnowfaLL" - was banned as sexual content..


How can SnowfaLL can be understood as sexual ? Is my understanding of English too limited ?

LordGeneral, LordSolar, and LordMilitant are all banned names. Lord is not, Inquisitor is not and names like Ursarkar, Adrastia and Yarrick are all usable.

Oh, ChaosLord is usable too. I'd declare a crusade against the now obvious powers of Chaos at Blizzard, but I fear their power is too great.
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Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
April 10 2013 19:54 GMT
#52
Are you sure it's because of the swastika ? The letter from Blizzard makes it sound like they don't like the name "Sniper Ridge", though that reason is equally stupid.
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achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 19:55:19
April 10 2013 19:54 GMT
#53
On April 11 2013 04:53 motbob wrote:
If the original Sniper Ridge map did not exist, no one would claim that removing the b.net version is a perfectly legitimate exercise of Blizzard's power. The fact that the original map does exist does not change the situation in any significant way. There is no case against Blizzard here. The map seems intentionally offensive to anyone who did not follow competitive BW, and more than 99% of the b.net community did not follow competitive BW.

Removing the map is one thing, but I still disagree with the ban though. It's an honest, if stupid, mistake.
Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28472 Posts
April 10 2013 19:54 GMT
#54
Blizzard employee makes mistake? Shit happens.
Map not allowed because looks too much like nazi swastika? Ok.
Ban not lifted after explanation? Very disappointing.
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 10 2013 19:56 GMT
#55
On April 11 2013 04:53 Shikyo wrote:
Um that swastika isn't anything negative.

I'm pretty sure the Finnish air force had that swastika as well. It's a positive sign

It's also an old religious symbol, but that's now how these things work.

95% of the population will still associate a swastika with nazism, which is why it's common sense to avoid using it.
Inimic
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada153 Posts
April 10 2013 19:56 GMT
#56
Make mistakes? They banned a paying customer for a week for uploading a popular brood war map!
wanghis
Profile Joined July 2011
United States320 Posts
April 10 2013 19:56 GMT
#57
It's a shame that blizzard can't appreciate a symbol made universal by an artist who's taught about in schools everywhere.
是那种想到他每天训练14个小时好辛苦就很心疼就想给他揉揉肩煲煲汤的那种爱
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
April 10 2013 19:56 GMT
#58
On April 11 2013 04:53 motbob wrote:
If the original Sniper Ridge map did not exist, no one would claim that removing the b.net version is a perfectly legitimate exercise of Blizzard's power. The fact that the original map does exist does not change the situation in any significant way. There is no case against Blizzard here. The map seems intentionally offensive to anyone who did not follow competitive BW, and more than 99% of the b.net community did not follow competitive BW. The fact that "it's backwards" is not significant either in determining whether the map is offensive.


it seems intentionally offensive to any westerner, you mean
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 19:57:31
April 10 2013 19:57 GMT
#59
On April 11 2013 04:53 motbob wrote:
If the original Sniper Ridge map did not exist, no one would claim that removing the b.net version is a perfectly legitimate exercise of Blizzard's power. The fact that the original map does exist does not change the situation in any significant way. There is no case against Blizzard here. The map seems intentionally offensive to anyone who did not follow competitive BW, and more than 99% of the b.net community did not follow competitive BW. The fact that "it's backwards" is not significant either in determining whether the map is offensive.

How? "The word "swastika" comes from the Sanskrit svastika - "su" meaning "good" or "auspicious," "asti" meaning "to be," and "ka" as a suffix. The swastika literally means "to be good". "

That's totally different from the nazi one o_O How can people even mix them up, they're 45 degrees bent to begin with

Again the finnish air force had those exact ones
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 10 2013 19:57 GMT
#60
On April 11 2013 04:47 Chaggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 04:44 HeeroFX wrote:
Looks like a swastika to me.


Cause you dont' know history. It's not a swastika, it's a religious symbol and has been for much longer than when the Nazi's tried to use it.

Either configuration is illegal in Germany, for reason I am sure I don't need to detail. That is the main reason why most games and media do not ever use the symbol. Not shocked by the ban, this is no joke for some people.
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