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On April 11 2013 04:38 Inimic wrote: Blizzard scum doesn't deserve the IP rights to their franchise. They're sooooooo rude to their players and communities. This is really making it easier for me to ignore legacy of the void when it's released in 10 years.
i have fantasized of such thing...but being a slave to starcraft i have no choice but to get all starcraft no matter how much i dislike the game shame on blizzard for taking advantage of us T.T
as for op, its understandable that blizzard would do something like that but it should clear up easily after educating them about sniper ridge and how nazi didnt actually invent the swastika and has been part of many different cultures unrelated to nazi influence
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On April 11 2013 04:34 motbob wrote: I am not sure why you expect Blizzard moderators to have a detailed knowledge of an eSport that is unpopular in the West.
Lol the focus is more on the ignorance of Blizzard in this regard. Didn't even bother to search up the old BW map. Stupid regardless for a mark that bears the resemblance of a Swastika. Why would a guy who made such a detailed mod go out of his way to make a stupid racist symbol on this map?
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part of blizzard's response, from other thread:
"We now consider this matter closed, and would not look to enter into further communication on the matter."
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On April 11 2013 04:35 ZappaSC wrote: I honestly think this is alright. To the people who say that the swastika meant something else and so fourth: It does not matter. Now it is associated with the nazi party, and it will continue to be so.
The map looks like a huge swastika, BW or not, its not appropriate IMHO.
EDIT: alright to ban i mean, its only 7 days man. Buddists might not be too please that you say that. I disagree with the ban, though I am neutral on removing the map.
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On April 11 2013 04:36 FromShouri wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 04:34 motbob wrote: I am not sure why you expect Blizzard moderators to have a detailed knowledge of an eSport that is unpopular in the West. Well if its a game you made and then tried to sue into oblivion...I would imagine someone would have too.
I didn't know Blizzard hired lawyers to be on their mod team. I guess that makes sense with all the excess lawyers around these days.
On April 11 2013 04:37 hangarninetysix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 04:34 motbob wrote: I am not sure why you expect Blizzard moderators to have a detailed knowledge of an eSport that is unpopular in the West. Because people who actually care about what they do would typically take 5 minutes to look into something before suspending the account of a paying customer.
Not even saying it's excusable cause it's obviously a mistake but I bet you the mod team consists of something like 1-2 people, probably interns, getting hundreds of requests a day and they just autopilot through them. It's a silly mistake, not sure why people want to make it more than that.
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Looks like a swastika to me.
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On April 11 2013 04:35 ZappaSC wrote: I honestly think this is alright. To the people who say that the swastika meant something else and so fourth: It does not matter. Now it is associated with the nazi party, and it will continue to be so.
The map looks like a huge swastika, BW or not, its not appropriate IMHO.
EDIT: alright to ban i mean, its only 7 days man.
Disagree. It is associated with the Nazi party in the western world, which is a small, albeit loud part of the world population. It is still a holy symbol in places like China and India, which comprise a huge chunk of the world's population. If anything, these type of policies are pretty racist against Asians.
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I think a ban is a bit harsh. If Blizzard doesn't want to have those symbols in their game, Nazi symbol or not, they should just remove it and send the uploader a message why they did remove the map.
We have to deal with the swastika being treated as a Nazi symbol nowadays even if this one is actually different from the one that was used back then. But immediately banning a map maker for it is just wrong in my opinion.
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its not a swastika, learn your history. swastika is the other way around.
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On April 11 2013 04:42 Skiblet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 04:34 motbob wrote: I am not sure why you expect Blizzard moderators to have a detailed knowledge of an eSport that is unpopular in the West. Lol the focus is more on the ignorance of Blizzard in this regard. Didn't even bother to search up the old BW map. Stupid regardless for a mark that bears the resemblance of a Swastika. Why would a guy who made such a detailed mod go out of his way to make a stupid racist symbol on this map?
Because Blizzard mod team should know all there is to know about eSports in Korea? Come on, be realistic here.
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Well that's just one admin on Blizzard misunderstanding the situation. It will get cleared up I"m sure.
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On April 11 2013 04:45 BisuDagger wrote: Well that's just one admin on Blizzard misunderstanding the situation. It will get cleared up I"m sure. It did not. They consider the matter closed.
They should have KeSPA to remake that map. That will show them.
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On April 11 2013 04:44 HeeroFX wrote: Looks like a swastika to me.
Cause you dont' know history. It's not a swastika, it's a religious symbol and has been for much longer than when the Nazi's tried to use it.
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The rudeness is unbelievable. This is a slap in the face to every proleague fan, followed by a "shut up, we won't discuss it" email afterwards.
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Well that's just one admin on Blizzard misunderstanding the situation. It will get cleared up I"m sure.
They said the matter is closed and will not revoke their decision.
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On April 11 2013 04:45 gfever wrote: its not a swastika, learn your history. swastika is the other way around.
According to wikipedia, a swastika is both, or more like both are versions of the swastika: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Geometry
However, the nazi's in Germany used one facing right and this one faces left. And unlike a flag, you cannot watch a map from both sides (i.e. from underground).
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This is dumb on many levels. Also totally unsurprising.
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It's funny how you can get upset over this.
How about you try to not make maps with inverted swastikas on them, no matter what old maps you are trying to copy? Is that too much common sense for you?
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I heavily disagree with removing the map and obviously with the ban as well. I have no respect for this decision from Blizzard at all.
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On April 11 2013 04:23 kingjames01 wrote: Also, the swastika that the Nazis used rotated clockwise... So this doesn't even match!
Or.... is it rotated counterclokwise? =O
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