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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 19:44:33
April 10 2013 19:42 GMT
#21
On April 11 2013 04:38 Inimic wrote:
Blizzard scum doesn't deserve the IP rights to their franchise. They're sooooooo rude to their players and communities. This is really making it easier for me to ignore legacy of the void when it's released in 10 years.


i have fantasized of such thing...but being a slave to starcraft i have no choice but to get all starcraft no matter how much i dislike the game
shame on blizzard for taking advantage of us T.T

as for op, its understandable that blizzard would do something like that but it should clear up easily after educating them about sniper ridge and how nazi didnt actually invent the swastika and has been part of many different cultures unrelated to nazi influence
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Skiblet
Profile Joined August 2011
South Africa206 Posts
April 10 2013 19:42 GMT
#22
On April 11 2013 04:34 motbob wrote:
I am not sure why you expect Blizzard moderators to have a detailed knowledge of an eSport that is unpopular in the West.


Lol the focus is more on the ignorance of Blizzard in this regard. Didn't even bother to search up the old BW map. Stupid regardless for a mark that bears the resemblance of a Swastika. Why would a guy who made such a detailed mod go out of his way to make a stupid racist symbol on this map?
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Inimic
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada153 Posts
April 10 2013 19:43 GMT
#23
part of blizzard's response, from other thread:

"We now consider this matter closed, and would not look to enter into further communication on the matter."
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
April 10 2013 19:43 GMT
#24
On April 11 2013 04:35 ZappaSC wrote:
I honestly think this is alright.
To the people who say that the swastika meant something else and so fourth: It does not matter. Now it is associated with the nazi party, and it will continue to be so.

The map looks like a huge swastika, BW or not, its not appropriate IMHO.

EDIT: alright to ban i mean, its only 7 days man.

Buddists might not be too please that you say that. I disagree with the ban, though I am neutral on removing the map.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
April 10 2013 19:43 GMT
#25
On April 11 2013 04:36 FromShouri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 04:34 motbob wrote:
I am not sure why you expect Blizzard moderators to have a detailed knowledge of an eSport that is unpopular in the West.


Well if its a game you made and then tried to sue into oblivion...I would imagine someone would have too.


I didn't know Blizzard hired lawyers to be on their mod team. I guess that makes sense with all the excess lawyers around these days.

On April 11 2013 04:37 hangarninetysix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 04:34 motbob wrote:
I am not sure why you expect Blizzard moderators to have a detailed knowledge of an eSport that is unpopular in the West.


Because people who actually care about what they do would typically take 5 minutes to look into something before suspending the account of a paying customer.


Not even saying it's excusable cause it's obviously a mistake but I bet you the mod team consists of something like 1-2 people, probably interns, getting hundreds of requests a day and they just autopilot through them. It's a silly mistake, not sure why people want to make it more than that.
HeeroFX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2704 Posts
April 10 2013 19:44 GMT
#26
Looks like a swastika to me.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
April 10 2013 19:44 GMT
#27
On April 11 2013 04:35 ZappaSC wrote:
I honestly think this is alright.
To the people who say that the swastika meant something else and so fourth: It does not matter. Now it is associated with the nazi party, and it will continue to be so.

The map looks like a huge swastika, BW or not, its not appropriate IMHO.

EDIT: alright to ban i mean, its only 7 days man.


Disagree. It is associated with the Nazi party in the western world, which is a small, albeit loud part of the world population. It is still a holy symbol in places like China and India, which comprise a huge chunk of the world's population. If anything, these type of policies are pretty racist against Asians.
Yello
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany7411 Posts
April 10 2013 19:45 GMT
#28
I think a ban is a bit harsh. If Blizzard doesn't want to have those symbols in their game, Nazi symbol or not, they should just remove it and send the uploader a message why they did remove the map.

We have to deal with the swastika being treated as a Nazi symbol nowadays even if this one is actually different from the one that was used back then. But immediately banning a map maker for it is just wrong in my opinion.
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gfever
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States180 Posts
April 10 2013 19:45 GMT
#29
its not a swastika, learn your history. swastika is the other way around.
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Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
April 10 2013 19:45 GMT
#30
On April 11 2013 04:42 Skiblet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 04:34 motbob wrote:
I am not sure why you expect Blizzard moderators to have a detailed knowledge of an eSport that is unpopular in the West.


Lol the focus is more on the ignorance of Blizzard in this regard. Didn't even bother to search up the old BW map. Stupid regardless for a mark that bears the resemblance of a Swastika. Why would a guy who made such a detailed mod go out of his way to make a stupid racist symbol on this map?


Because Blizzard mod team should know all there is to know about eSports in Korea? Come on, be realistic here.
BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19291 Posts
April 10 2013 19:45 GMT
#31
Well that's just one admin on Blizzard misunderstanding the situation. It will get cleared up I"m sure.
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achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 19:48:00
April 10 2013 19:47 GMT
#32
On April 11 2013 04:45 BisuDagger wrote:
Well that's just one admin on Blizzard misunderstanding the situation. It will get cleared up I"m sure.

It did not. They consider the matter closed.

They should have KeSPA to remake that map. That will show them.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
April 10 2013 19:47 GMT
#33
On April 11 2013 04:44 HeeroFX wrote:
Looks like a swastika to me.


Cause you dont' know history. It's not a swastika, it's a religious symbol and has been for much longer than when the Nazi's tried to use it.
Inimic
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada153 Posts
April 10 2013 19:47 GMT
#34
The rudeness is unbelievable. This is a slap in the face to every proleague fan, followed by a "shut up, we won't discuss it" email afterwards.
Inimic
Profile Joined March 2013
Canada153 Posts
April 10 2013 19:48 GMT
#35
Well that's just one admin on Blizzard misunderstanding the situation. It will get cleared up I"m sure.


They said the matter is closed and will not revoke their decision.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 10 2013 19:48 GMT
#36
On April 11 2013 04:45 gfever wrote:
its not a swastika, learn your history. swastika is the other way around.


According to wikipedia, a swastika is both, or more like both are versions of the swastika:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika#Geometry

However, the nazi's in Germany used one facing right and this one faces left. And unlike a flag, you cannot watch a map from both sides (i.e. from underground).
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
April 10 2013 19:48 GMT
#37
This is dumb on many levels. Also totally unsurprising.
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
April 10 2013 19:48 GMT
#38
It's funny how you can get upset over this.

How about you try to not make maps with inverted swastikas on them, no matter what old maps you are trying to copy? Is that too much common sense for you?
Paragleiber
Profile Joined June 2009
413 Posts
April 10 2013 19:48 GMT
#39
I heavily disagree with removing the map and obviously with the ban as well. I have no respect for this decision from Blizzard at all.
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-VapidSlug-
Profile Joined June 2012
United States108 Posts
April 10 2013 19:49 GMT
#40
On April 11 2013 04:23 kingjames01 wrote:
Also, the swastika that the Nazis used rotated clockwise... So this doesn't even match!


Or.... is it rotated counterclokwise? =O
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