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Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
April 10 2013 22:30 GMT
#1581
On April 11 2013 07:07 Vasily17 wrote:
And this is how Foreign esports dies. Well maybe not but there is no chance that there will be any non Koreans winning anything this year

And this how sc2 dies, since korean don't follow it very much and foreigners like to see korean vs korean but not always that
DYEAlabaster
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1009 Posts
April 10 2013 22:31 GMT
#1582
MVP will never win G5L now. My heart. It breaks.
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
April 10 2013 22:31 GMT
#1583
So wait, does this mean we won't see any of these guys in the GSL? What kind of bullshit is that?
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 10 2013 22:32 GMT
#1584
What's funny is reading all the reaction from the NA pros, you'd think it's the Lifes, Innovations and Partings of the Korean scene coming, and not a bunch of Code B players. If they're this scared to compete against players most of whom can't even make it into Code A, then they're really hopeless.
intense555
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States474 Posts
April 10 2013 22:34 GMT
#1585
What the fuck, seriously. WCS NA is supposed to be for NA players but instead its even more stacked than GSL. The fuck......
Aspiring Starcraft 2 pro for @mYinsanityEU, follow me on twitter @mYintenseSC
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 22:40:32
April 10 2013 22:37 GMT
#1586
On April 11 2013 07:26 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 07:15 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:10 sitromit wrote:
On April 11 2013 06:25 jdp216 wrote:
and the NA champ is....some guy form KR. so much for growing the NA/EU sc2 scene

NA champ will be some guy on an NA team. There's only 1 player playing in NA who is on a Korean team and that's Nestea.

Actually, Azubu, IM, Liquid, Axiom, and maybe CMStorm are all non-NA teams.

I'm sorry, you're right about Azubu, and CMStorm is debatable because they're a branch of a multi-national company that also has a US headquarters but you're wrong about the rest.

Liquid's main office is in NYC as far as I know, that makes them a US team. Axiom is in fact a US team, if you disagree you can listen to TB's latest monologue on why they picked NA for their players.

Even with Azubu and CMStorm, that would make 3 players out of 32 in the premiere division, and with no guarantee that they'll be able to qualify or even if they're invited, stay there in the first place. They could drop down if they lose. The rest are all players on NA teams, including one player from the vehemently anti-Korean Root.

We simply have different views then. Liquid lists itself as an European team and only one of it's players is from NA. The teamliquid.net office is in NYC (where hotbid lives, i believe), but that doesn't mean the Liquid team is NA (your talking website, i'm talking team). Axiom is a team full of koreans with European owners, so while TB likely caters to the US audience, it wouldn't make it a US team, imo. Axiom has no connections to NA via team headquarters, owners, or players...sponsors do not make up a team.

Either way I agree that this isn't going to grow the NA or EU scenes, but for much different reasons.
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LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 10 2013 22:40 GMT
#1587
On April 11 2013 07:31 DYEAlabaster wrote:
MVP will never win G5L now. My heart. It breaks.

With Flash and Life in the mix, he wasnt going to anyway.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 10 2013 22:41 GMT
#1588
Well, this should be interesting. It feels so wrong to have Jaedong competing in NA instead, though. :-/
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
April 10 2013 22:42 GMT
#1589
On April 11 2013 07:31 DYEAlabaster wrote:
MVP will never win G5L now. My heart. It breaks.


Yes, but he might win the entire WCS finals at the end of the year. And that is far more superior to a measly GSL championship. I mean seriously, basically the BEST Koreans (Kespa & ESF) will qualify from each region (maybe 1-2 foreigners) for a grand championship at the end. It will be epic. It will be massive. It will be grand. To me, that means more than a 5th GSL championship.
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
April 10 2013 22:43 GMT
#1590
On April 11 2013 07:37 Prplppleatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 07:26 sitromit wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:15 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:10 sitromit wrote:
On April 11 2013 06:25 jdp216 wrote:
and the NA champ is....some guy form KR. so much for growing the NA/EU sc2 scene

NA champ will be some guy on an NA team. There's only 1 player playing in NA who is on a Korean team and that's Nestea.

Actually, Azubu, IM, Liquid, Axiom, and maybe CMStorm are all non-NA teams.

I'm sorry, you're right about Azubu, and CMStorm is debatable because they're a branch of a multi-national company that also has a US headquarters but you're wrong about the rest.

Liquid's main office is in NYC as far as I know, that makes them a US team. Axiom is in fact a US team, if you disagree you can listen to TB's latest monologue on why they picked NA for their players.

Even with Azubu and CMStorm, that would make 3 players out of 32 in the premiere division, and with no guarantee that they'll be able to qualify or even if they're invited, stay there in the first place. They could drop down if they lose. The rest are all players on NA teams, including one player from the vehemently anti-Korean Root.

We simply have different views then. Liquid lists itself as an European team and only one of it's players is from NA. The teamliquid.net office is in NYC (where hotbid lives, i believe), but that doesn't mean the Liquid team is NA (your talking website, i'm talking team). Axiom is a team full of koreans with European owners, so while TB likely caters to the US audience, it wouldn't make it a US team, imo. Axiom has no connections to NA via team headquarters, owners, or players...sponsors do not make up a team.

Either way I agree that this isn't going to grow the NA or EU scenes, but for much different reasons.


I agree with you as regards Liquid, but the owner of Axiom is TB's wife, who is actually American, and they live in the US, even if TB is British.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Ksquared
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1748 Posts
April 10 2013 22:43 GMT
#1591
Whats the point of calling it an NA and Europe tournaments if only Koreans will be playing in it.
eSports for life.
Nazeron
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1046 Posts
April 10 2013 22:43 GMT
#1592
I actually laughed out loud when i read the NA players just because of ITG yesterday saying how crazy the NA bracket will be I can see just what they meant. Hopefully some actual NA players make it through
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 22:58:07
April 10 2013 22:45 GMT
#1593
On April 11 2013 07:43 mikkmagro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 07:37 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:26 sitromit wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:15 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:10 sitromit wrote:
On April 11 2013 06:25 jdp216 wrote:
and the NA champ is....some guy form KR. so much for growing the NA/EU sc2 scene

NA champ will be some guy on an NA team. There's only 1 player playing in NA who is on a Korean team and that's Nestea.

Actually, Azubu, IM, Liquid, Axiom, and maybe CMStorm are all non-NA teams.

I'm sorry, you're right about Azubu, and CMStorm is debatable because they're a branch of a multi-national company that also has a US headquarters but you're wrong about the rest.

Liquid's main office is in NYC as far as I know, that makes them a US team. Axiom is in fact a US team, if you disagree you can listen to TB's latest monologue on why they picked NA for their players.

Even with Azubu and CMStorm, that would make 3 players out of 32 in the premiere division, and with no guarantee that they'll be able to qualify or even if they're invited, stay there in the first place. They could drop down if they lose. The rest are all players on NA teams, including one player from the vehemently anti-Korean Root.

We simply have different views then. Liquid lists itself as an European team and only one of it's players is from NA. The teamliquid.net office is in NYC (where hotbid lives, i believe), but that doesn't mean the Liquid team is NA (your talking website, i'm talking team). Axiom is a team full of koreans with European owners, so while TB likely caters to the US audience, it wouldn't make it a US team, imo. Axiom has no connections to NA via team headquarters, owners, or players...sponsors do not make up a team.

Either way I agree that this isn't going to grow the NA or EU scenes, but for much different reasons.


I agree with you as regards Liquid, but the owner of Axiom is TB's wife, who is actually American, and they live in the US, even if TB is British.

But they are an all korean team with a korean teamhouse and korean players playing in the GSTL. I don't see how what you say trumps this, so we simply have to agree to disagree. That is just my opinon.

@Godwrath below: we are talking about axiom.....not liquid
🥇 Prediction Contest - Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Thurken
Profile Joined September 2011
961 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 22:51:02
April 10 2013 22:47 GMT
#1594
I'm so sad that so many koreans go for european or NA regionals. It's not their fault, it's Blizzard's but still I will enjoy a lot less games were a korean play from now on. It is like when a government says that you can fire locals to delocalize abroad, you can surely do it but it is not very classy.
I used to hate League of Legend but now I love it because we don't see that much of korean teams even if they are better than european and american ones. In the end even if we don't always see the highest level of play, but we see really good games with people that can speak a langage we understand and share at least something with us. I have already plenty of ways to see a korean vs korean game
TimENT
Profile Joined November 2012
United States1425 Posts
April 10 2013 22:48 GMT
#1595
On April 11 2013 07:43 Nazeron wrote:
I actually laughed out loud when i read the NA players just because of ITG yesterday saying how crazy the NA bracket will be I can see just what they meant. Hopefully some actual NA players make it through


Remember how crazy TSL3 was stacked with Koreans? And then the finals were Naniwa & Thorzain... I'm sure 1-2 up and comers will appear in the NA top 32. I mean, how many spots are there actually? A few non-Koreans HAVE to be in there, and then I'm sure there will be 3-5 upsets.
Barcelona / Arsenal Fan!
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10134 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 22:49:52
April 10 2013 22:49 GMT
#1596
On April 11 2013 07:45 Prplppleatr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 07:43 mikkmagro wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:37 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:26 sitromit wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:15 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:10 sitromit wrote:
On April 11 2013 06:25 jdp216 wrote:
and the NA champ is....some guy form KR. so much for growing the NA/EU sc2 scene

NA champ will be some guy on an NA team. There's only 1 player playing in NA who is on a Korean team and that's Nestea.

Actually, Azubu, IM, Liquid, Axiom, and maybe CMStorm are all non-NA teams.

I'm sorry, you're right about Azubu, and CMStorm is debatable because they're a branch of a multi-national company that also has a US headquarters but you're wrong about the rest.

Liquid's main office is in NYC as far as I know, that makes them a US team. Axiom is in fact a US team, if you disagree you can listen to TB's latest monologue on why they picked NA for their players.

Even with Azubu and CMStorm, that would make 3 players out of 32 in the premiere division, and with no guarantee that they'll be able to qualify or even if they're invited, stay there in the first place. They could drop down if they lose. The rest are all players on NA teams, including one player from the vehemently anti-Korean Root.

We simply have different views then. Liquid lists itself as an European team and only one of it's players is from NA. The teamliquid.net office is in NYC (where hotbid lives, i believe), but that doesn't mean the Liquid team is NA (your talking website, i'm talking team). Axiom is a team full of koreans with European owners, so while TB likely caters to the US audience, it wouldn't make it a US team, imo. Axiom has no connections to NA via team headquarters, owners, or players...sponsors do not make up a team.

Either way I agree that this isn't going to grow the NA or EU scenes, but for much different reasons.


I agree with you as regards Liquid, but the owner of Axiom is TB's wife, who is actually American, and they live in the US, even if TB is British.

But they are an all korean team with a korean teamhouse and korean players playing in the GSTL. I don't see how what you say trumps this, so we simply have to agree to disagree.


Snute, TLO, Ret don't exist, right ?
jax1492
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1632 Posts
April 10 2013 22:49 GMT
#1597
united states of korea ... way more than i expected
Elairec
Profile Joined June 2011
United States410 Posts
April 10 2013 22:51 GMT
#1598
On April 11 2013 07:49 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 07:45 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:43 mikkmagro wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:37 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:26 sitromit wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:15 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:10 sitromit wrote:
On April 11 2013 06:25 jdp216 wrote:
and the NA champ is....some guy form KR. so much for growing the NA/EU sc2 scene

NA champ will be some guy on an NA team. There's only 1 player playing in NA who is on a Korean team and that's Nestea.

Actually, Azubu, IM, Liquid, Axiom, and maybe CMStorm are all non-NA teams.

I'm sorry, you're right about Azubu, and CMStorm is debatable because they're a branch of a multi-national company that also has a US headquarters but you're wrong about the rest.

Liquid's main office is in NYC as far as I know, that makes them a US team. Axiom is in fact a US team, if you disagree you can listen to TB's latest monologue on why they picked NA for their players.

Even with Azubu and CMStorm, that would make 3 players out of 32 in the premiere division, and with no guarantee that they'll be able to qualify or even if they're invited, stay there in the first place. They could drop down if they lose. The rest are all players on NA teams, including one player from the vehemently anti-Korean Root.

We simply have different views then. Liquid lists itself as an European team and only one of it's players is from NA. The teamliquid.net office is in NYC (where hotbid lives, i believe), but that doesn't mean the Liquid team is NA (your talking website, i'm talking team). Axiom is a team full of koreans with European owners, so while TB likely caters to the US audience, it wouldn't make it a US team, imo. Axiom has no connections to NA via team headquarters, owners, or players...sponsors do not make up a team.

Either way I agree that this isn't going to grow the NA or EU scenes, but for much different reasons.


I agree with you as regards Liquid, but the owner of Axiom is TB's wife, who is actually American, and they live in the US, even if TB is British.

But they are an all korean team with a korean teamhouse and korean players playing in the GSTL. I don't see how what you say trumps this, so we simply have to agree to disagree.


Snute, TLO, Ret don't exist, right ?


Talking about Axiom
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 10 2013 22:52 GMT
#1599
I can see some foreigners being competitive in Europe since there are only 6 Koreans, but 20 in NA? No chance over there.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
RubiksCube
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Germany259 Posts
April 10 2013 22:52 GMT
#1600
On April 11 2013 07:49 Godwrath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 07:45 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:43 mikkmagro wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:37 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:26 sitromit wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:15 Prplppleatr wrote:
On April 11 2013 07:10 sitromit wrote:
On April 11 2013 06:25 jdp216 wrote:
and the NA champ is....some guy form KR. so much for growing the NA/EU sc2 scene

NA champ will be some guy on an NA team. There's only 1 player playing in NA who is on a Korean team and that's Nestea.

Actually, Azubu, IM, Liquid, Axiom, and maybe CMStorm are all non-NA teams.

I'm sorry, you're right about Azubu, and CMStorm is debatable because they're a branch of a multi-national company that also has a US headquarters but you're wrong about the rest.

Liquid's main office is in NYC as far as I know, that makes them a US team. Axiom is in fact a US team, if you disagree you can listen to TB's latest monologue on why they picked NA for their players.

Even with Azubu and CMStorm, that would make 3 players out of 32 in the premiere division, and with no guarantee that they'll be able to qualify or even if they're invited, stay there in the first place. They could drop down if they lose. The rest are all players on NA teams, including one player from the vehemently anti-Korean Root.

We simply have different views then. Liquid lists itself as an European team and only one of it's players is from NA. The teamliquid.net office is in NYC (where hotbid lives, i believe), but that doesn't mean the Liquid team is NA (your talking website, i'm talking team). Axiom is a team full of koreans with European owners, so while TB likely caters to the US audience, it wouldn't make it a US team, imo. Axiom has no connections to NA via team headquarters, owners, or players...sponsors do not make up a team.

Either way I agree that this isn't going to grow the NA or EU scenes, but for much different reasons.


I agree with you as regards Liquid, but the owner of Axiom is TB's wife, who is actually American, and they live in the US, even if TB is British.

But they are an all korean team with a korean teamhouse and korean players playing in the GSTL. I don't see how what you say trumps this, so we simply have to agree to disagree.


Snute, TLO, Ret don't exist, right ?


He was talking Axiom
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