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Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
April 10 2013 20:48 GMT
#1541
On April 11 2013 05:46 rename wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 05:36 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On April 03 2013 14:21 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Summary:
GSL is demoted, OSL is revived, SPL and GSTL won't change. White people wins the symbolic battle, but Koreans will win more money from west. China is forgotten.

And the big winner award goes to
+ Show Spoiler +
OnGameNet


Quote myself from the announcement thread. Also GreTech is a puppy company now, Blizzard makes all decisions for them. No wonder its CEO resigned several weeks ago.


20 million koreans use GomPlayer to watch PPV/ad-supported porn, im sure the company as whole is not very dependent on GSL/Blizzard


CEO said it himself, he can't control the direction of the company anymore.
Rccodes
Profile Joined March 2013
11 Posts
April 10 2013 20:48 GMT
#1542
well there goes the neighborhood.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 10 2013 20:49 GMT
#1543
On April 11 2013 05:36 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 14:21 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Summary:
GSL is demoted, OSL is revived, SPL and GSTL won't change. White people wins the symbolic battle, but Koreans will win more money from west. China is forgotten.

And the big winner award goes to
+ Show Spoiler +
OnGameNet


Quote myself from the announcement thread. Also GreTech is a puppy company now, Blizzard makes all decisions for them. No wonder its CEO resigned several weeks ago.


OGN being happy is a good for SC2 growth.
ever since MBC decided to takeaway their gaming channel
OGN is the only remaining cable-access gaming channel in Korea from what I know...
So when kids tune into to watch progaming, they're going to tune into OGNand having sc2 4 days a week is a good thing.
I think SpoTV is a specialty channel in Korea
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 10 2013 20:50 GMT
#1544
On April 11 2013 05:46 hulskiey wrote:
wait wait..
If offline part of WCS:NA will be all koreans when will people chant USA USA USA?

When polt wins?
zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
April 10 2013 20:51 GMT
#1545
On April 11 2013 05:42 tylerf wrote:
The biggest problem with this for me (in NA) is not that I want to see foreigners win especially bad, but this just isn't interesting. A foreigner code S would be interesting, even if the level of play isn't the highest. Now it's basically just become a lesser KR GSL. The level of play isn't the best AND it doesn't have anything special about it.


To touch on some of what tylerf wrote:

I couldnt care less where players are from.... its just that the majority of koreans have zero personality and are taught to be so. Never say what you really think, never stick out and repeat the same quotes all the time "I want to show you good and entertaining games"..... ZzzZzZzzzzZz.
I know competition is primarily about winning and results - but why do your best to make it as boring as possible? It makes people lose interest in everything...

It's just not entertaining - the one prime example who goes against the current is MC, The Boss Toss.... He does "his job" so perfectly, has earned the most and perhaps the most loved SC2 player of all? (even if MVP is The Best so far - imo!).
Respect MC!

Sorry, perhaps a bit off topic :D
(:
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
April 10 2013 20:54 GMT
#1546
On April 11 2013 05:51 zanga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 05:42 tylerf wrote:
The biggest problem with this for me (in NA) is not that I want to see foreigners win especially bad, but this just isn't interesting. A foreigner code S would be interesting, even if the level of play isn't the highest. Now it's basically just become a lesser KR GSL. The level of play isn't the best AND it doesn't have anything special about it.


To touch on some of what tylerf wrote:

I couldnt care less where players are from.... its just that the majority of koreans have zero personality and are taught to be so. Never say what you really think, never stick out and repeat the same quotes all the time "I want to show you good and entertaining games"..... ZzzZzZzzzzZz.
I know competition is primarily about winning and results - but why do your best to make it as boring as possible? It makes people lose interest in everything...

It's just not entertaining - the one prime example who goes against the current is MC, The Boss Toss.... He does "his job" so perfectly, has earned the most and perhaps the most loved SC2 player of all? (even if MVP is The Best so far - imo!).
Respect MC!

Sorry, perhaps a bit off topic :D

i honestly believe that if there were tournaments without Koreans, people would realize that most foreigners aren't much different. we just don't see it because foreigners don't win tournaments. hell, they don't even win matches in tournaments anybody cares about.
TY <3 Cure <3 Inno <3 Special <3
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 21:05:38
April 10 2013 20:54 GMT
#1547
On April 11 2013 05:43 blackone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 05:40 forsooth wrote:
From a pure quality of gameplay perspective this isn't a bad thing, but it certainly stunts the growth of SC2 in NA by giving our own players fewer things to compete for.


It's still more than before. And I think what's lacking the most in NA is lower level tournaments for newer players to show themselves. I don't think a tournament designed to be a competition of the best of the best should have development of inferior scenes as it's main goal.

The trouble with that though is that the vast majority of foreign teams don't and can't pay their players a reasonable enough wage to permit them to focus exclusively on gaming, and if every tournament out there with a big prize pool has a dozen Koreans finishing at the top, all they can do is fight over scraps. This was a chance for Blizzard to give NA players some pretty good money to play for over the course of the year and give our guys some actual incentive to pursue progaming as a career, but instead it's going to be like every other international tournament now.
zanga
Profile Joined September 2011
659 Posts
April 10 2013 20:59 GMT
#1548
On April 11 2013 05:54 Schelim wrote:
i honestly believe that if there were tournaments without Koreans, people would realize that most foreigners aren't much different. we just don't see it because foreigners don't win tournaments. hell, they don't even win matches in tournaments anybody cares about.


Yeah you may be right.. I dont know...
(:
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
April 10 2013 20:59 GMT
#1549
Man, Blizzard is 2 for 2 with really disappointing me on big announcements




...curse you Hearthstone!!!!
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 10 2013 21:01 GMT
#1550
On April 11 2013 05:59 Crownlol wrote:
Man, Blizzard is 2 for 2 with really disappointing me on big announcements




...curse you Hearthstone!!!!


I was kinda looking forward to that. I like card games and deck building....
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
April 10 2013 21:01 GMT
#1551
On April 10 2013 18:11 KillAudio wrote:
Wow, majority of them are Kespa players.


Are there some Kespa player I don't know about? It doesn't look that way at all.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
April 10 2013 21:02 GMT
#1552
On April 11 2013 05:31 ShatterZer0 wrote:
We know Koreans are the best... Koreans are angry that even though they're the best, they can't get shown because they have the same number of spots as NA/EU...

Why not just Split Korea into 2-3 divisions? Korea West/Central/East and then have 15-16 Korean invites, 8 EU, and 8 NA? Then 4/8 groups of 8/4 person round robin. -> ro16

I know it costs more... but just making Koreans fly around the world and stomp the shit out of all the foreigners doesn't seem to be a very forward thinking approach.

The Koreans deserve more seats according to their "skill density". It's not fair to create a Korean bloodbath, and it's not fair to have Foreign scenes have a much lower chance to sprout by crowding them with Code S caliber players.


I agree with you. I wish blizzard hadnt rushed this and kept us in the dark. I mean everything they release gamewise has lots of flaws and gets improved by community and pro feedback. Why would such a big change to the structure of esports be any different.
m0ck
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
4194 Posts
April 10 2013 21:09 GMT
#1553
On April 11 2013 05:46 rename wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 05:36 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
On April 03 2013 14:21 Charlie.Sheen wrote:
Summary:
GSL is demoted, OSL is revived, SPL and GSTL won't change. White people wins the symbolic battle, but Koreans will win more money from west. China is forgotten.

And the big winner award goes to
+ Show Spoiler +
OnGameNet


Quote myself from the announcement thread. Also GreTech is a puppy company now, Blizzard makes all decisions for them. No wonder its CEO resigned several weeks ago.


20 million koreans use GomPlayer to watch PPV/ad-supported porn, im sure the company as whole is not very dependent on GSL/Blizzard

edit: that data is from 2007 tho, so no idea how the non-esports section is doing these days

Funny if true, but 2007-2013 is a really long time in the internet world.
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
April 10 2013 21:16 GMT
#1554
MC can't play in EU Premier Division,because he got knocked out from Code S right?

So i guess he will play to get a spot in the EU Challenger League..?
All I do is Stim.
Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
April 10 2013 21:22 GMT
#1555
Polt should marry Korean American and become American in that way:

1. He can be an American citizen, better life, better opportunities
2. Dodge army
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10165 Posts
April 10 2013 21:23 GMT
#1556
On April 11 2013 06:22 SpecialistSc wrote:
Polt should marry Korean American and become American in that way:

1. He can be an American citizen, better life, better opportunities
2. Dodge army


Don't give Fionn ideas...
jdp216
Profile Joined November 2012
United States9 Posts
April 10 2013 21:25 GMT
#1557
and the NA champ is....some guy form KR. so much for growing the NA/EU sc2 scene
infester good unit
Mlhockey16
Profile Joined December 2011
United States8 Posts
April 10 2013 21:39 GMT
#1558
Why even call it NA qualifiers when the only players that will do well aren't NA. I hoped the region lock would promote the lesser known NA players. This just seems like a mad scramble for prize money.
Santi
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Colombia466 Posts
April 10 2013 21:41 GMT
#1559
On April 11 2013 06:22 SpecialistSc wrote:
Polt should marry Korean American and become American in that way:

1. He can be an American citizen, better life, better opportunities
2. Dodge army


Better opportunities/life in the USA? lol
ChaiNs
Profile Joined June 2012
57 Posts
April 10 2013 21:51 GMT
#1560
This sucks simply because a lot of my favorites that were all concentrated in the GSL will no longer be playing in the league. I'd rather just keep watching GSL as it has fantastic production and the highest skill level yet with all of my favorite players.
Polt | GuMiho | Ryung | PartinG | Genius | Symbol | soO
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