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WCS 2013 Announced - April 3rd - Page 64

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AceOfCakez
Profile Joined August 2012
United States72 Posts
April 03 2013 03:13 GMT
#1261
Wow. This is good. Real good.
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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
April 03 2013 03:13 GMT
#1262
On April 03 2013 12:12 HowdySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:06 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:04 HowdySC2 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:00 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:57 HowdySC2 wrote:
Will there be a rebroadcast for foreigner fans like myself who only want to watch the best starcraft? If not then this announcement literally kills sc2 for me since I have no interest in watching mediocre foreigners play against each other.

Watch OSL/GSL then. TTTTTTTTTTTTT


I can't stay up to 5am watching sc2, some of us actually have responsibilities. Before I could at least watch the top koreans when they came to crush foreigners at MLG and IPL, but now I don't even get that opportunity anymore.

GSL pass -> VODs. Stop seeing problems and look for solutions.

EDIT: this is how i think it is going to work.

VODs are vastly inferior to watching something live, you can't even begin to compare them. I used to pay for GSL to get access to the VODs but then I realized I never watched them because there is zero excitement in watching something that is days old.

They're usually up (in GSL's case) in an equally quick amount of time as a rebroadcast. What's the difference????
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
April 03 2013 03:14 GMT
#1263
So I get that MLG and ESL will still run their own events as usual, and are running WCS as well.
For Korea, could someone clarify this for me. Are GSL/OSL the actual WCS events for the region, or will there be something else that they both broadcast?
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
April 03 2013 03:14 GMT
#1264
Awesome news for the entire scene imo.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 03:15:07
April 03 2013 03:14 GMT
#1265
On April 03 2013 12:12 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:11 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:10 Doodsmack wrote:
Am I right that MLG and ESL will still be putting on their standard circuit events which will be independent of their respective WCS seasons this year? And anyone can attend those standard events?

You are correct



I am confused because it seems that GSL/OSL "standard" events will now become WCS events? And thus placing well in a standard GSL will grant WCS points? But doing the same in a standard MLG event will not?


GSL and OSL are merging with WCS KR.
MLG and IEM's standards circuits are not and their respective WCS events will be a separate thing.
However, the weekend MLG/IEM events will likely award WCS points as well. As will Dreamhack, NASL, Iron Squid, HSC, etc.
vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
April 03 2013 03:14 GMT
#1266
On April 03 2013 12:13 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:11 vesicular wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:09 AgentW wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:08 vesicular wrote:
SPL and GSTL means most Koreans will stay in Korea.

None of them will leave, it's a matter of playing on NA/EU with the lag, going to the LANs, and taking foreigner points.


And playing at 3am when they have a 10am Proleague match the next day? Don't think so.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't think that KeSPA guys are even going to think about it, but the Code B eSF guys on teams with money? I think it's a smart thing to do.


Agreed it's a smart thing to do, but I would be utterly shocked if any Kespa player chooses NA or EU as their region (or are even allowed to).
STX Fighting!
Maaasta
Profile Joined April 2010
61 Posts
April 03 2013 03:14 GMT
#1267
On April 03 2013 12:12 HowdySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:06 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:04 HowdySC2 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:00 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:57 HowdySC2 wrote:
Will there be a rebroadcast for foreigner fans like myself who only want to watch the best starcraft? If not then this announcement literally kills sc2 for me since I have no interest in watching mediocre foreigners play against each other.

Watch OSL/GSL then. TTTTTTTTTTTTT


I can't stay up to 5am watching sc2, some of us actually have responsibilities. Before I could at least watch the top koreans when they came to crush foreigners at MLG and IPL, but now I don't even get that opportunity anymore.

GSL pass -> VODs. Stop seeing problems and look for solutions.

EDIT: this is how i think it is going to work.

VODs are vastly inferior to watching something live, you can't even begin to compare them. I used to pay for GSL to get access to the VODs but then I realized I never watched them because there is zero excitement in watching something that is days old.


Aren't Twitch VoDs up like 10min after the broadcast?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
April 03 2013 03:15 GMT
#1268
On April 03 2013 12:12 HowdySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:06 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:04 HowdySC2 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:00 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:57 HowdySC2 wrote:
Will there be a rebroadcast for foreigner fans like myself who only want to watch the best starcraft? If not then this announcement literally kills sc2 for me since I have no interest in watching mediocre foreigners play against each other.

Watch OSL/GSL then. TTTTTTTTTTTTT


I can't stay up to 5am watching sc2, some of us actually have responsibilities. Before I could at least watch the top koreans when they came to crush foreigners at MLG and IPL, but now I don't even get that opportunity anymore.

GSL pass -> VODs. Stop seeing problems and look for solutions.

EDIT: this is how i think it is going to work.

VODs are vastly inferior to watching something live, you can't even begin to compare them. I used to pay for GSL to get access to the VODs but then I realized I never watched them because there is zero excitement in watching something that is days old.

The VODs are posted a few hours later now, maybe even one hour later after game has been broadcasted, AND you want a rebroadcast, which is essentially the exact same thing. It IS later than the content is available from the first go. I do not understand you, cause watching a Starleague finals from 7 years ago still gives me the same tingling feeling like when I watched it the first time.
The Bomber boy
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
April 03 2013 03:15 GMT
#1269
I can see Kespa teams telling their b-teamers/scrubs to participate in regions outside Korea.

As the prophesy has foretold, the consolidation is beginning #ZeratulVoice.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 03 2013 03:15 GMT
#1270
On April 03 2013 12:14 vesicular wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:13 AgentW wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:11 vesicular wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:09 AgentW wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:08 vesicular wrote:
SPL and GSTL means most Koreans will stay in Korea.

None of them will leave, it's a matter of playing on NA/EU with the lag, going to the LANs, and taking foreigner points.


And playing at 3am when they have a 10am Proleague match the next day? Don't think so.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't think that KeSPA guys are even going to think about it, but the Code B eSF guys on teams with money? I think it's a smart thing to do.


Agreed it's a smart thing to do, but I would be utterly shocked if any Kespa player chooses NA or EU as their region (or are even allowed to).

I agree. If several KeSPA guys sign up, I'm convinced this was a KeSPA plot to take all of the money :D
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
April 03 2013 03:15 GMT
#1271
On April 03 2013 12:06 Hadley88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:06 sparklyresidue wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:04 HowdySC2 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:00 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:57 HowdySC2 wrote:
Will there be a rebroadcast for foreigner fans like myself who only want to watch the best starcraft? If not then this announcement literally kills sc2 for me since I have no interest in watching mediocre foreigners play against each other.

Watch OSL/GSL then. TTTTTTTTTTTTT


I can't stay up to 5am watching sc2, some of us actually have responsibilities. Before I could at least watch the top koreans when they came to crush foreigners at MLG and IPL, but now I don't even get that opportunity anymore.

Are VODs not an option?


VODs will NOT be free!



Ya know what, then don't watch anymore.

I'm sorry that Blizzard, MLG, GSL etc etc cannot cater to you and you alone so I guess you will just have to give up watching or sacrifice a few things so you are able to watch something that you claim to care so much about.

There are obviously some things that are still being ironed out, so wait a few more days for some more information, if you are still not happy... well..... sorry

PardonYou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1360 Posts
April 03 2013 03:15 GMT
#1272
On April 03 2013 12:14 Maaasta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:12 HowdySC2 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:06 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:04 HowdySC2 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:00 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:57 HowdySC2 wrote:
Will there be a rebroadcast for foreigner fans like myself who only want to watch the best starcraft? If not then this announcement literally kills sc2 for me since I have no interest in watching mediocre foreigners play against each other.

Watch OSL/GSL then. TTTTTTTTTTTTT


I can't stay up to 5am watching sc2, some of us actually have responsibilities. Before I could at least watch the top koreans when they came to crush foreigners at MLG and IPL, but now I don't even get that opportunity anymore.

GSL pass -> VODs. Stop seeing problems and look for solutions.

EDIT: this is how i think it is going to work.

VODs are vastly inferior to watching something live, you can't even begin to compare them. I used to pay for GSL to get access to the VODs but then I realized I never watched them because there is zero excitement in watching something that is days old.


Aren't Twitch VoDs up like 10min after the broadcast?

They can choose not to allow them to be uploaded to the vod service on twitch.
Charlie.Sheen
Profile Joined March 2013
662 Posts
April 03 2013 03:15 GMT
#1273
Doesn't seem to be too big of a deal considering the hype. Team leagues are still left out.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32742 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 03:18:26
April 03 2013 03:16 GMT
#1274
So a summary of the WCS holdings as I understand:

- The Korean, NA and EU SC2 scene will be united under the WCS banner as shown in the picture
- GSL/OSL, NA-GSL and EU-GSL contribute to the WCS point system, where the 16 highest ranked players will play to determine the WSC champion
- The three seasons will coincide with the tournaments. In Korea, GSL will be take place for two seasons (one running very soon and the one after summer), while OSL will be held in the summer as the point arbitrator
- Koreans and foreigners are not restricted by the regions, and can travel to every tournament for money
- MLG and IEM are simultaneously independent of the WCS system, which allows Koreans and foreigners outside of their region to participate
- DreamHack, NASL, Iron Squid and other mid-tier tournaments will contribute to the point system, though at a lesser scale compared to the other regionals
- Players are locked to the regions of their choice
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 03 2013 03:16 GMT
#1275
On April 03 2013 12:15 trifecta wrote:
I can see Kespa teams telling their b-teamers/scrubs to participate in regions outside Korea.

As the prophesy has foretold, the consolidation is beginning #ZeratulVoice.

Barracks as NA-GSL Champion!!
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 03 2013 03:16 GMT
#1276
On April 03 2013 12:16 LighT. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:15 trifecta wrote:
I can see Kespa teams telling their b-teamers/scrubs to participate in regions outside Korea.

As the prophesy has foretold, the consolidation is beginning #ZeratulVoice.

Barracks as NA-GSL Champion!!

Bisu might even have a shot
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MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
April 03 2013 03:17 GMT
#1277
On April 03 2013 12:14 Maaasta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:12 HowdySC2 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:06 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:04 HowdySC2 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:00 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:57 HowdySC2 wrote:
Will there be a rebroadcast for foreigner fans like myself who only want to watch the best starcraft? If not then this announcement literally kills sc2 for me since I have no interest in watching mediocre foreigners play against each other.

Watch OSL/GSL then. TTTTTTTTTTTTT


I can't stay up to 5am watching sc2, some of us actually have responsibilities. Before I could at least watch the top koreans when they came to crush foreigners at MLG and IPL, but now I don't even get that opportunity anymore.

GSL pass -> VODs. Stop seeing problems and look for solutions.

EDIT: this is how i think it is going to work.

VODs are vastly inferior to watching something live, you can't even begin to compare them. I used to pay for GSL to get access to the VODs but then I realized I never watched them because there is zero excitement in watching something that is days old.


Aren't Twitch VoDs up like 10min after the broadcast?


Twitch VODs are created every 2 hours in to a broadcast, so you can watch the first minute of a live broadcast the second it's been running for 121 minutes. VODs are nearly instantly created once the broadcast has ended. That is assuming they save the VODs and don't try and use the (awful) twitch highlight system or upload everything to Youtube.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 03 2013 03:17 GMT
#1278
On April 03 2013 12:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:16 LighT. wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:15 trifecta wrote:
I can see Kespa teams telling their b-teamers/scrubs to participate in regions outside Korea.

As the prophesy has foretold, the consolidation is beginning #ZeratulVoice.

Barracks as NA-GSL Champion!!

Bisu might even have a shot

Who are you kidding? Bear to defend his championship!
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
April 03 2013 03:17 GMT
#1279
On April 03 2013 12:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:16 LighT. wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:15 trifecta wrote:
I can see Kespa teams telling their b-teamers/scrubs to participate in regions outside Korea.

As the prophesy has foretold, the consolidation is beginning #ZeratulVoice.

Barracks as NA-GSL Champion!!

Bisu might even have a shot

He's gonna win his next game, I promise you. These shots fired will not go unnoticed!
The Bomber boy
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 03 2013 03:18 GMT
#1280
On April 03 2013 12:16 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:16 LighT. wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:15 trifecta wrote:
I can see Kespa teams telling their b-teamers/scrubs to participate in regions outside Korea.

As the prophesy has foretold, the consolidation is beginning #ZeratulVoice.

Barracks as NA-GSL Champion!!

Bisu might even have a shot

Yea, it'd be unwise for Bisu to stay on the KR-GSL as KR-GSL is now GSL+OSL which means, he'll never get through qualifiers :<..
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