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WCS 2013 Announced - April 3rd - Page 63

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a3den
Profile Joined April 2012
704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 03:10:18
April 03 2013 03:09 GMT
#1241
EU players are probably the biggest winners (not the ones in Korea though), most latency from KR and the most expensive flights as well. I don't see Koreans choosing to play in WCS EU instead of NA (or KR), or their teams allowing it.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 03 2013 03:09 GMT
#1242
On April 03 2013 12:08 vesicular wrote:
SPL and GSTL means most Koreans will stay in Korea.

None of them will leave, it's a matter of playing on NA/EU with the lag, going to the LANs, and taking foreigner points.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Maaasta
Profile Joined April 2010
61 Posts
April 03 2013 03:10 GMT
#1243
Shaun Clark ‏@ApolloSC2 1m
Blizzard say that @DreamHack will have special place this year coming from @ibenbassat - More details soon
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 03 2013 03:10 GMT
#1244
On April 03 2013 12:07 sparklyresidue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:06 Hadley88 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:06 sparklyresidue wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:04 HowdySC2 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:00 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:57 HowdySC2 wrote:
Will there be a rebroadcast for foreigner fans like myself who only want to watch the best starcraft? If not then this announcement literally kills sc2 for me since I have no interest in watching mediocre foreigners play against each other.

Watch OSL/GSL then. TTTTTTTTTTTTT


I can't stay up to 5am watching sc2, some of us actually have responsibilities. Before I could at least watch the top koreans when they came to crush foreigners at MLG and IPL, but now I don't even get that opportunity anymore.

Are VODs not an option?


VODs will NOT be free!

Well if you are so busy working, support the scene and subscribe.

Implying nobody on TL is a (unpaid) student and has to attend some sort of school.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
April 03 2013 03:10 GMT
#1245
On April 03 2013 12:09 AbuntuGuntu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:08 Hadley88 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:07 sparklyresidue wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:06 Hadley88 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:06 sparklyresidue wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:04 HowdySC2 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:00 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:57 HowdySC2 wrote:
Will there be a rebroadcast for foreigner fans like myself who only want to watch the best starcraft? If not then this announcement literally kills sc2 for me since I have no interest in watching mediocre foreigners play against each other.

Watch OSL/GSL then. TTTTTTTTTTTTT


I can't stay up to 5am watching sc2, some of us actually have responsibilities. Before I could at least watch the top koreans when they came to crush foreigners at MLG and IPL, but now I don't even get that opportunity anymore.

Are VODs not an option?


VODs will NOT be free!

Well if you are so busy working, support the scene and subscribe.


If its like GSL (~100$/year) - no chance in hell! If its like ProLeague (5$ for the year) no question.

100$ a year for something you enjoy is pretty cheap.

I thought most people were past this, guess not. Get a pass with a friend if it's such a huge deal.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 03:11:54
April 03 2013 03:10 GMT
#1246
Am I right that MLG and ESL will still be putting on their standard circuit events which will be independent of their respective WCS seasons this year? And anyone can attend those standard events? I am confused because it seems that GSL/OSL "standard" events will now become WCS events? And thus placing well in a standard GSL will grant WCS points? But doing the same in a standard MLG event will not?
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
April 03 2013 03:10 GMT
#1247
On April 03 2013 12:08 Hadley88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:07 sparklyresidue wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:06 Hadley88 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:06 sparklyresidue wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:04 HowdySC2 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:00 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:57 HowdySC2 wrote:
Will there be a rebroadcast for foreigner fans like myself who only want to watch the best starcraft? If not then this announcement literally kills sc2 for me since I have no interest in watching mediocre foreigners play against each other.

Watch OSL/GSL then. TTTTTTTTTTTTT


I can't stay up to 5am watching sc2, some of us actually have responsibilities. Before I could at least watch the top koreans when they came to crush foreigners at MLG and IPL, but now I don't even get that opportunity anymore.

Are VODs not an option?


VODs will NOT be free!

Well if you are so busy working, support the scene and subscribe.


If its like GSL (~100$/year) - no chance in hell! If its like ProLeague (5$ for the year) no question.

Less than 10 bucks a month? I don't sub to them even though I would love to, so I'm not blaming you
Refer to my post.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
April 03 2013 03:10 GMT
#1248
On April 03 2013 12:10 Doodsmack wrote:
Am I right that MLG and ESL will still be putting on their standard circuit events which will be independent of their respective WCS seasons this year? And anyone can attend those standard events?


yes.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
April 03 2013 03:11 GMT
#1249
On April 03 2013 12:10 Doodsmack wrote:
Am I right that MLG and ESL will still be putting on their standard circuit events which will be independent of their respective WCS seasons this year? And anyone can attend those standard events?

You are correct
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vesicular
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1310 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 03:11:39
April 03 2013 03:11 GMT
#1250
On April 03 2013 12:09 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:08 vesicular wrote:
SPL and GSTL means most Koreans will stay in Korea.

None of them will leave, it's a matter of playing on NA/EU with the lag, going to the LANs, and taking foreigner points.


And playing at 3am when they have a 10am Proleague match the next day? Don't think so.
STX Fighting!
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
April 03 2013 03:11 GMT
#1251
On April 03 2013 12:10 Doodsmack wrote:
Am I right that MLG and ESL will still be putting on their standard circuit events which will be independent of their respective WCS seasons this year? And anyone can attend those standard events?


Yes, MLG and ESL are just running WCS for blizzard while still doing there normal stuff it seems.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 03 2013 03:11 GMT
#1252
You know what would be perfect...
if MSL returned ;_;...
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
April 03 2013 03:11 GMT
#1253
On April 03 2013 12:10 ZenithM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:07 sparklyresidue wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:06 Hadley88 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:06 sparklyresidue wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:04 HowdySC2 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:00 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:57 HowdySC2 wrote:
Will there be a rebroadcast for foreigner fans like myself who only want to watch the best starcraft? If not then this announcement literally kills sc2 for me since I have no interest in watching mediocre foreigners play against each other.

Watch OSL/GSL then. TTTTTTTTTTTTT


I can't stay up to 5am watching sc2, some of us actually have responsibilities. Before I could at least watch the top koreans when they came to crush foreigners at MLG and IPL, but now I don't even get that opportunity anymore.

Are VODs not an option?


VODs will NOT be free!

Well if you are so busy working, support the scene and subscribe.

Implying nobody on TL is a (unpaid) student and has to attend some sort of school.

It's pretty cheap sir. Don't buy $10 worth of something per month and it's covered.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
Nachtwind
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany1130 Posts
April 03 2013 03:12 GMT
#1254
I have LWL 50k and a beast computer

flash now live in MAHOUSE

pls =(
invisible tetris level master
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
April 03 2013 03:12 GMT
#1255
If I had to take a stab in the dark about how pricing will work.

You pay GOM and OGN for WCS.KR (aka, GSL/OSL) VODs and 1080p and other premium stuff.
You pay MLG for WCS.NA VODs and 1080p and other premium stuff.
You pay IEM for WCS.EU VODs and 1080p and other premium stuff.

The corresponding season finals are covered by their geographically corrispondant ticket, or a weekend-style one off final ticket.

The Blizzcon grand final at the end of the year will either be free, or you pay blizzard (or GOM/MLG/IEM/whoever if a particular external company is doing the production) some weekend-style one off ticket.
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3399 Posts
April 03 2013 03:12 GMT
#1256
I don't get the point of restriction.
From what I understand the only thing you can't do is play in more than one regional league.
You can still gather points all over the world if your team can afford the travel.
HowdySC2
Profile Joined March 2013
United States15 Posts
April 03 2013 03:12 GMT
#1257
On April 03 2013 12:06 Wintex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:04 HowdySC2 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:00 Wintex wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:57 HowdySC2 wrote:
Will there be a rebroadcast for foreigner fans like myself who only want to watch the best starcraft? If not then this announcement literally kills sc2 for me since I have no interest in watching mediocre foreigners play against each other.

Watch OSL/GSL then. TTTTTTTTTTTTT


I can't stay up to 5am watching sc2, some of us actually have responsibilities. Before I could at least watch the top koreans when they came to crush foreigners at MLG and IPL, but now I don't even get that opportunity anymore.

GSL pass -> VODs. Stop seeing problems and look for solutions.

EDIT: this is how i think it is going to work.

VODs are vastly inferior to watching something live, you can't even begin to compare them. I used to pay for GSL to get access to the VODs but then I realized I never watched them because there is zero excitement in watching something that is days old.
Based fOrGG
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
April 03 2013 03:12 GMT
#1258
On April 03 2013 12:11 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:10 Doodsmack wrote:
Am I right that MLG and ESL will still be putting on their standard circuit events which will be independent of their respective WCS seasons this year? And anyone can attend those standard events?

You are correct



I am confused because it seems that GSL/OSL "standard" events will now become WCS events? And thus placing well in a standard GSL will grant WCS points? But doing the same in a standard MLG event will not?
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 03 2013 03:13 GMT
#1259
On April 03 2013 12:11 vesicular wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:09 AgentW wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:08 vesicular wrote:
SPL and GSTL means most Koreans will stay in Korea.

None of them will leave, it's a matter of playing on NA/EU with the lag, going to the LANs, and taking foreigner points.


And playing at 3am when they have a 10am Proleague match the next day? Don't think so.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I don't think that KeSPA guys are even going to think about it, but the Code B eSF guys on teams with money? I think it's a smart thing to do.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 03:14:48
April 03 2013 03:13 GMT
#1260
On April 03 2013 12:12 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:11 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 03 2013 12:10 Doodsmack wrote:
Am I right that MLG and ESL will still be putting on their standard circuit events which will be independent of their respective WCS seasons this year? And anyone can attend those standard events?

You are correct



I am confused because it seems that GSL/OSL "standard" events will now become WCS events? And thus placing well in a standard GSL will grant WCS points? But doing the same in a standard MLG event will not?

Yes, but they said there could be points from other things so standard MLGs could grant points to people from any region from what i understand, but I think it was mentioned that anaheim wont. Not 100% on the details
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