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WCS 2013 Announced - April 3rd - Page 61

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laxcrit19
Profile Joined November 2011
United States6 Posts
April 03 2013 03:01 GMT
#1201
Anybody else think NASL got screwed? I mean they have a legit KR style season tournament already.
where did all my SCVs go?
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
April 03 2013 03:01 GMT
#1202
here's hoping Koreans win every single event!
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
April 03 2013 03:01 GMT
#1203
On April 03 2013 12:00 rasnj wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:57 HowdySC2 wrote:
Will there be a rebroadcast for foreigner fans like myself who only want to watch the best starcraft? If not then this announcement literally kills sc2 for me since I have no interest in watching mediocre foreigners play against each other.

I have no idea why you would want a REbroadcast, but there are broadcasts available to you. Being such a competitive and elite discerning spectator you may have heard of these leagues called GSL and OSL which you can still watch and will in all likelihood not have many mediocre foreigners (unless all Koreans move to NA and leaves GSL/OSL for carn (still in Korea right?), major and naniwa to win). In addition the global finals are not going to have many mediocore foreigners either, maybe 1 or 2 of the best NA/EU have to offer, but even that is doubtful.

I think he means a rebroadcast of Korean leagues, presumably because he does not want to stay up until 7am.
probeater
Profile Joined October 2012
124 Posts
April 03 2013 03:02 GMT
#1204
On April 03 2013 12:00 AgentW wrote:
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On April 03 2013 12:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:59 probeater wrote:
so wait..i dont get this. will the major tournaments still be running? like mlg, dh, iem, or will they all be turned into this gsl style thing?

They will all still be running. ESL and MLG will be hosting GSL style events as WCS qualifiers as well

To clarify, the GSL style events will be qualified from using an online tournament points system in the respective region.

alright i get it now, thanks
I have a Dark Templar Statue at home.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 03 2013 03:02 GMT
#1205
On April 03 2013 12:01 laxcrit19 wrote:
Anybody else think NASL got screwed? I mean they have a legit KR style season tournament already.

Some non-WCS tournaments will be getting WCS points, so I would think that tournaments like NASL and Dreamhack will still be relevant.
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Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
April 03 2013 03:02 GMT
#1206
Does anyone know if Prize money is going to be the same for all three regions? NA/EU getting the same amount as KR even though clearly KR will have the tougher competition?
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 03 2013 03:02 GMT
#1207
Curious if GOM will do any form of refund for the people that bought the ticket.
LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
April 03 2013 03:03 GMT
#1208
On April 03 2013 11:56 infKelsier wrote:
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On April 03 2013 11:54 LighT. wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:51 infKelsier wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:50 LighT. wrote:
My worry:
- VoDs
- Koreans jumping to NA/EU regions to clear house (I'm looking at you Violet/Polt for NA...)
- GSL/OSL just lost some level of prestige. because some of the top players will move onto GSL-NA GSL-EU and unable to participate further until the finals

:Looks like Axiom/Acer will move their players to GSL-NA,
not sure about Azubu


Only the Koreans who had no chance at a GSL/OSL would move across so how does it lose prestige?
you really think Life and MC are going to go and play in GSL-NA?

If the prize level is the same, why not?
Would you rather go through a brutal KR-GSL where you face high calibre opponents from the get-go (Qualifiers)
Or would you go to a GSL-NA where the competition is a few players if the prize money is the same.
I can totally see someone with free-reign (MC) doing that.


If you stand a chance at winning GSL/OSL you fucking play there because it is the most prestigous tournament, the best competition, and has a really great prize pool at the end.
It is a terrible move for their PR and their Skill for any Code S calibre player to come and play in the GSL-NA

if would depend on the circumstances.
if you're in it for the $. You go for the easier league, especially if the prize pool is the same.
if youre in it for the prestige and popularity you go for KR.
A player like Stephano has the money approach, arranging his schedule so that his skill can maximize his cash return, while guys like MVP do it for the prestige.
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
April 03 2013 03:03 GMT
#1209
All that really remains to be said for me is the cost of GSL/OSL vods. I'm definitely going to keep staying up to watch when I can, but if I can't, I don't want to pay 40 bucks for only a few days of vods.

I wonder if the GSL restream will still be aired, and what quality that will have.
KT FlaSh FOREVER
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 03:04:33
April 03 2013 03:03 GMT
#1210
The only thing I don't like is how being able to select a region at the start will 'dilute' the field, especially starting in 2k14. GSL/OSL/WCS.KR will no longer be the most prestigious by a long shot because half of its field will be gutted out.

Though, by extension, NA and EU will become slightly more prestigious.

Maybe they should give a slight bonus, like 1.2x or something, to people who play in their own geographical region?
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
April 03 2013 03:03 GMT
#1211
On April 03 2013 12:00 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On April 03 2013 12:00 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:57 eviltomahawk wrote:
On April 03 2013 11:56 ffrozenfish wrote:
OGN should hire another/extra SC2 english commentator

Moletrap

Seeker


He has yet to punch flash and write a TL blog about it.

What better second chance than to cast OSL?


Silly me, such a golden opportunity.
Terran & Potato Salad.
Hadley88
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany267 Posts
April 03 2013 03:03 GMT
#1212
And why is KeSPA in this? They basically don't do anything, just let their players play???
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 03:04:30
April 03 2013 03:03 GMT
#1213
On April 03 2013 12:01 laxcrit19 wrote:
Anybody else think NASL got screwed? I mean they have a legit KR style season tournament already.

NASL still contributes to the WCS points, so they aren't completely left out of the system. Besides, NASL prefers being out of the loop from what I've seen, and prefer their independence.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 03 2013 03:03 GMT
#1214
On April 03 2013 12:02 Hrrrrm wrote:
Does anyone know if Prize money is going to be the same for all three regions? NA/EU getting the same amount as KR even though clearly KR will have the tougher competition?

I dont think it has been specified yet but may come up in the Q&A session going on
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
April 03 2013 03:03 GMT
#1215
On April 03 2013 12:01 laxcrit19 wrote:
Anybody else think NASL got screwed? I mean they have a legit KR style season tournament already.


Maybe they wanted more freedom to operate in? I don't know but they don't have the same infrastructure as MLG atm and perhaps they want to bring koreans to NA as well? Not sure what their plans are atm havent heard too much in terms of a new season from them yet.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 03 2013 03:04 GMT
#1216
On April 03 2013 12:02 eviltomahawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 12:01 laxcrit19 wrote:
Anybody else think NASL got screwed? I mean they have a legit KR style season tournament already.

Some non-WCS tournaments will be getting WCS points, so I would think that tournaments like NASL and Dreamhack will still be relevant.

I can see where DH is angry, as their tournament format fits with what's going on with WCS, but I feel like NASL just wouldn't work out, with cross server play and a season rather than one big LAN.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
April 03 2013 03:04 GMT
#1217
I feel like NA is winning the most from all this. Even with potentially some Koreans moving to NA permanently, it's still most probably going to develop the NA scene the most, compared to what it will do to EU and KR.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Maaasta
Profile Joined April 2010
61 Posts
April 03 2013 03:04 GMT
#1218
hopefully we get a "lan client" for the offline World Final....
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 03:04:32
April 03 2013 03:04 GMT
#1219
On April 03 2013 12:03 MCXD wrote:
The only thing I don't like is how being able to select a region at the start will 'dilute' the field. GSL/OSL/WCS.KR will no longer be the most prestigious by a long shot because half of its field will be gutted out.

Though, by extension, NA and EU will become slightly more prestigious.


I can't imagine Code S players will decide to give up their spot and join another region.

On April 03 2013 12:04 Maaasta wrote:
hopefully we get a "lan client" for the offline World Final....


It already exists.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
April 03 2013 03:04 GMT
#1220
On April 03 2013 12:00 AbuntuGuntu wrote:
So..GSL:free 720p but still need a ticket for vods?

Can't watch it live everyday so guess i'll keep getting tickets :p
Yeah, that is what I will do, well I guess already did (I haven't got GSTL yet but I was waiting for this announcement before getting my season pass because of that rumour about GSTL going away). Stay up until 3AM my time to watch live and not be able to rewatch or pay $60 per year for VODs. Pretty easy answer if you ask me.
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