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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
In my opinion, it also detracts from the 'coolness' of seeing a GM in chat channels, since there's an extra 200 of them per server... and they're not even good, they just happened to spend their bonus pool to under 80 before other people did. tldr: WoL still has a GM league, and considering it is pointless now, it should be removed imo. | ||
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Cokefreak
Finland8095 Posts
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Iodem
United States1173 Posts
On March 21 2013 06:08 Cokefreak wrote: Why would you care if it's there if it's pointless anyway? Isn't there an achievement for getting GM? | ||
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virpi
Germany3598 Posts
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NubainMuscle
South Africa423 Posts
The portrait border is expansion specific but the league listing is not. In other words, a WOL GM will not have a GM border for HOTS. However, the GM logo would still appear on the right hand side of the main profile screen. I believe they should modify this so only HOTS league placement is visible. I have some friends who placed diamond early in WOL and have not even laddered 1v1 for HOTS yet they are still listed as diamond league (but no portrait border). | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On March 21 2013 06:15 NubainMuscle wrote: I think the bigger issue is they need to fix the league display in the profile section. The portrait border is expansion specific but the league listing is not. In other words, a WOL GM will not have a GM border for HOTS. However, the GM logo would still appear on the right hand side of the main profile screen. I believe they should modify this so only HOTS league placement is visible. I have some friends who placed diamond early in WOL and have not even laddered 1v1 for HOTS yet they are still listed as diamond league (but no portrait border). Oh noes! They can now make some other noob believe they are diamond :O | ||
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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
On March 21 2013 06:16 purakushi wrote: Just a note. The bonus pool is completely separate from MMR. While the visible points is a general indicator of your rating, it is separate from what actually determines your placement. I know how the system works, but I worded it like I did because there's actually next to no one playing wings of liberty still so anyone with, like, mid masters MMR and up is getting promoted. Also, you can't get in GM with more than 80 bonus pool afaik. | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On March 21 2013 06:17 bluQ wrote: Oh noes! They can now make some other noob believe they are diamond :O lol edit: I dont think it should be removed, WoL is still going on and people want to play it. | ||
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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
On March 21 2013 06:15 NubainMuscle wrote: I think the bigger issue is they need to fix the league display in the profile section. The portrait border is expansion specific but the league listing is not. In other words, a WOL GM will not have a GM border for HOTS. However, the GM logo would still appear on the right hand side of the main profile screen. I believe they should modify this so only HOTS league placement is visible. I have some friends who placed diamond early in WOL and have not even laddered 1v1 for HOTS yet they are still listed as diamond league (but no portrait border). right but you can just hang out with WoL expansion on to get the GM border in chat channels, even to other HOTS members. I am doing it right now and I'm only diamond in HOTS. (im actually better than most GMs on the server, but I didn't ladder) it's just silly. Grandmaster was a league for the elite players* and there's nothing elite about wings of liberty anymore lol. *= elite players for that server | ||
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Xylocaine
France56 Posts
On March 21 2013 06:15 NubainMuscle wrote: I think the bigger issue is they need to fix the league display in the profile section. The portrait border is expansion specific but the league listing is not. In other words, a WOL GM will not have a GM border for HOTS. However, the GM logo would still appear on the right hand side of the main profile screen. I believe they should modify this so only HOTS league placement is visible. I have some friends who placed diamond early in WOL and have not even laddered 1v1 for HOTS yet they are still listed as diamond league (but no portrait border). Not really an issue... I guess the "league listing" you are talking about is the "highest league finish", which means that a random scrub who got into Diamond/Masters in season 1 or 2 back in 2010 still has his Diamond/Masters icon even if now his MMR is on bronze level... So basically that icon means nothing anyway (at least when it comes to current actual skill), it's mostly here for prestige and bragging rights, so if you ask me it makes entire sense to show a GM icon for WoL GM's lol | ||
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skatblast
United States784 Posts
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koOma
Norway462 Posts
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Godwrath
Spain10127 Posts
Who cares about GM on WoL ? Hell, how many people care about ladder in WoL ? Should we also remove it entirely? | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
On March 21 2013 06:06 Let it Raine wrote: Given that no one is playing the game anymore I have a really big problem with this point which makes your whole agruement pointless. First who is "no one?" Second when I log onto HOTS I see that there is a 100,000 people currently logged into battle.net, clearly there are people playing SC II. I play the game daily, but I don't count as a someone. Your reasons for GM are dumb. GM is like a way to visually show who the top 200 players in the world are. | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
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Leetley
1796 Posts
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On March 21 2013 06:20 Let it Raine wrote: right but you can just hang out with WoL expansion on to get the GM border in chat channels, even to other HOTS members. I am doing it right now and I'm only diamond in HOTS. (im actually better than most GMs on the server, but I didn't ladder) it's just silly. Grandmaster was a league for the elite players* and there's nothing elite about wings of liberty anymore lol. *= elite players for that server dude stop being an ass... among the players who choose to stay and play WoL, theres going to be a wish for a ranking system, why would they change the ranking system just so old WoL players can brag about huge eballs in hotS? look at it as a different game rather than an expansion. | ||
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
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nakedsurfer
Canada500 Posts
On March 21 2013 07:10 Leetley wrote: Just let it be, there is no harm in it being there. I agree with this. People playing WOL shouldn't get less just because they chose not to buy the expansion. | ||
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scudst0rm
Canada1149 Posts
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Bommes
Germany1226 Posts
On March 21 2013 06:59 Godwrath wrote: This is the definition of first world problems. 'nuff said. "Look, he has a shinier picture on his profile page than me but doesn't deserve it! *NERDRAGE*" Reminds me of the WoW community, stuff like that is going on there nonstop. | ||
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JazzJackrabbit
Canada1272 Posts
On March 21 2013 07:08 HeeroFX wrote: I have a really big problem with this point which makes your whole agruement pointless. First who is "no one?" Second when I log onto HOTS I see that there is a 100,000 people currently logged into battle.net, clearly there are people playing SC II. I play the game daily, but I don't count as a someone. Your reasons for GM are dumb. GM is like a way to visually show who the top 200 players in the world are. I think he was specifically saying nobody is playing WOL anymore. | ||
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Arghmyliver
United States1077 Posts
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Pisko.
United States214 Posts
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Let it Raine
Canada1245 Posts
It's heart of the swarm players wings of liberty just to spend their bonus pool to get the achievement/portrait border for free. No one is elite, or a top player lol. The few people I played all said "yeah, I have hots. I'm just playing to get gm since its so easy lol": I don't know, it just feels goofy and cheapens the coolness of being GM imo. | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
On March 21 2013 20:17 Let it Raine wrote: Most people aren't realizing that the majority of WoL gms are actually just hots mid masters. It's heart of the swarm players wings of liberty just to spend their bonus pool to get the achievement/portrait border for free. No one is elite, or a top player lol. The few people I played all said "yeah, I have hots. I'm just playing to get gm since its so easy lol": I don't know, it just feels goofy and cheapens the coolness of being GM imo. And that is what we get from Blizzard introducing Achievments I guess, lil' boys fighting over sprites and gfxs. | ||
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dextrin303
Sweden320 Posts
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Account252508
3454 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
Oh, I guess it's not pointless since there is an achievement. | ||
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gfever
United States180 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On March 21 2013 20:52 gfever wrote: I think they should instead just change the icons to match the game they are playing and add a number to say which year and which season it was. For example, for WoL, the icons would look terran like while HOTS, zerg like so we can depict when they got it. I don't want anything Zerg-like associated to me. :p | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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StrinterN
Denmark531 Posts
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
It's not like a team will get tricked into signing a WoL GM or anything like that. Unless something happens that directly hurts the reputation of the game or the pro scene, leave it be | ||
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Qntc.YuMe
United States792 Posts
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Mortal
2943 Posts
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aka_star
United Kingdom1546 Posts
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Ch3rry
Poland228 Posts
Dude, really wtf? GM is Top 200 on a server and it should stay that way. Or are you crying that you didn't spent your bonus pool on time? | ||
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Zennith
United States795 Posts
On March 21 2013 20:17 Let it Raine wrote: Most people aren't realizing that the majority of WoL gms are actually just hots mid masters. It's heart of the swarm players wings of liberty just to spend their bonus pool to get the achievement/portrait border for free. No one is elite, or a top player lol. The few people I played all said "yeah, I have hots. I'm just playing to get gm since its so easy lol": I don't know, it just feels goofy and cheapens the coolness of being GM imo. I fully agree, this is absolutely what is happening - players who aren't particularly good are getting GM, and that really does defeat the point. | ||
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Mortal
2943 Posts
On March 22 2013 00:56 Zennith wrote: I fully agree, this is absolutely what is happening - players who aren't particularly good are getting GM, and that really does defeat the point. "not particularly good" players have been getting GM since it started though. Deezer cheesing his way there, among a slew of others like him. It's still just a novelty for a lot of people. | ||
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yokohama
United States1116 Posts
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Zorgaz
Sweden2951 Posts
It's not like being GM on WoL means that much anymore ^^ | ||
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SfynX
United Kingdom83 Posts
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Swift118
United Kingdom335 Posts
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Nekovivie
United Kingdom2599 Posts
GM can be Oak league. | ||
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InfusedTT.DaZe
Romania693 Posts
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virpi
Germany3598 Posts
On March 22 2013 01:21 Nekovivie wrote: Rename all WoL leagues to varying types of wood. GM can be Oak league. That would be hilarious. Wood of Liberty! | ||
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Chocobo
United States1108 Posts
That luxurious oak portrait border... like a 1980s stationwagon... | ||
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PiQLiQ
Sweden702 Posts
 I will hopefully be kicked out from GM because i will go inactive on sc2 now. ;] But no i don't think they should remove GM. | ||
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Extenz
Italy822 Posts
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habeck
1120 Posts
I'm sorry, but thats the only reason why he would want it. Leave GM as it is | ||
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Taters_
Finland123 Posts
Anyways there's no need to go on a rampage and abolish the WoL GM, instead they could just separate the leagues and league achievements of WoL and HotS so that profiles will display such according to which game you are playing at the time. For example you have masters in WoL currently and being highest ever but while playing HotS in gold currently with diamond highest ever you'd have on profile displayed the HotS diamond as highest rank and the gold as current. And when playing WoL the leagues should be represented accordingly. Same applying to league achievements or they could be marked from which game they were achieved giving people more goals to get them from both games. | ||
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Veriol
Czech Republic502 Posts
On May 04 2013 20:57 habeck wrote: So basically OP is raging that other guys get in GM and he cant make it? I'm sorry, but thats the only reason why he would want it. Leave GM as it is let me explain to you what op means because it was probably too long. newbs still play wol -> GM easy to get -> reduces prestigue and credibility of GM -> remove pls Anyway i agree or at least dont show it over hots league | ||
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Dzerzhinsky
Scotland327 Posts
There definately needs to be a change to make it a little clearer where you are GM. If you're Masters in HotS, it shouldn't be saying you're GM on the score screen after a HotS game. | ||
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SCV-1
United Kingdom1 Post
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SC2Toastie
Netherlands5725 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34492 Posts
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