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On March 08 2013 10:35 BradenKuntz wrote:
I thought the whole idea of having a wild card group was really freaking awesome, so I'm kind of bummed to see that's not going to happen anymore. I'm not saying giving out seeds is a bad thing, I'm just really curious (right along with everyone else) what their reasoning is going to be behind this. I'm sure it'll be a good reason, GOM has been pretty good over the years at being very professional. Still, I'm just really curious about it all though.
yeah, wildcard groups have the potential to be epic. does anyone remember jangbi's run of awesomeness that started in an insanely stacked wildcard group, picked up on the "legend of the tiebreaker" introduced by effort, then sending god young ho flash to the hospital, followed by a sick 5 set final with a nailbiting game 5 including an impossible comeback by jangbi. all that began in the wildcard groups. wildcardgroups induce awesomeness.
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On March 09 2013 15:07 Black Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 10:35 BradenKuntz wrote:
I thought the whole idea of having a wild card group was really freaking awesome, so I'm kind of bummed to see that's not going to happen anymore. I'm not saying giving out seeds is a bad thing, I'm just really curious (right along with everyone else) what their reasoning is going to be behind this. I'm sure it'll be a good reason, GOM has been pretty good over the years at being very professional. Still, I'm just really curious about it all though. yeah, wildcard groups have the potential to be epic. does anyone remember jangbi's run of awesomeness that started in an insanely stacked wildcard group, picked up on the "legend of the tiebreaker" introduced by effort, then sending god young ho flash to the hospital, followed by a sick 5 set final with a nailbiting game 5 including an impossible comeback by jangbi. all that began in the wildcard groups. wildcardgroups induce awesomeness.
Imagine if they just picked Bisu out of popularity for that OSL, and then he died to somebody like go.go or Shine?
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Fenrax
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I've thought this over, and now I am sure it is the GSL/OSL champions get seeds into the other league (and they consider OSL as OGN's property, not Kespa's). Nothing else makes sense so it is this.
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It's also worth pointing out that one half of our current GSL finals came from a wildcard group.
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On March 09 2013 15:11 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 15:07 Black Gun wrote:On March 08 2013 10:35 BradenKuntz wrote:
I thought the whole idea of having a wild card group was really freaking awesome, so I'm kind of bummed to see that's not going to happen anymore. I'm not saying giving out seeds is a bad thing, I'm just really curious (right along with everyone else) what their reasoning is going to be behind this. I'm sure it'll be a good reason, GOM has been pretty good over the years at being very professional. Still, I'm just really curious about it all though. yeah, wildcard groups have the potential to be epic. does anyone remember jangbi's run of awesomeness that started in an insanely stacked wildcard group, picked up on the "legend of the tiebreaker" introduced by effort, then sending god young ho flash to the hospital, followed by a sick 5 set final with a nailbiting game 5 including an impossible comeback by jangbi. all that began in the wildcard groups. wildcardgroups induce awesomeness. Imagine if they just picked Bisu out of popularity for that OSL, and then he died to somebody like go.go or Shine?
ouch, to a former bisu fan like me, this was a real low blow. 
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Fenrax
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On March 09 2013 15:49 Black Gun wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 15:11 Shady Sands wrote:On March 09 2013 15:07 Black Gun wrote:On March 08 2013 10:35 BradenKuntz wrote:
I thought the whole idea of having a wild card group was really freaking awesome, so I'm kind of bummed to see that's not going to happen anymore. I'm not saying giving out seeds is a bad thing, I'm just really curious (right along with everyone else) what their reasoning is going to be behind this. I'm sure it'll be a good reason, GOM has been pretty good over the years at being very professional. Still, I'm just really curious about it all though. yeah, wildcard groups have the potential to be epic. does anyone remember jangbi's run of awesomeness that started in an insanely stacked wildcard group, picked up on the "legend of the tiebreaker" introduced by effort, then sending god young ho flash to the hospital, followed by a sick 5 set final with a nailbiting game 5 including an impossible comeback by jangbi. all that began in the wildcard groups. wildcardgroups induce awesomeness. Imagine if they just picked Bisu out of popularity for that OSL, and then he died to somebody like go.go or Shine? ouch, to a former bisu fan like me, this was a real low blow.
FORMER Bisu fan? You just wait for HotS, then you will come back.
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On March 09 2013 15:14 Fenrax wrote:
I've thought this over, and now I am sure it is the GSL/OSL champions get seeds into the other league (and they consider OSL as OGN's property, not Kespa's). Nothing else makes sense so it is this.
This sounds very reasonable.
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On March 09 2013 15:14 Fenrax wrote:
I've thought this over, and now I am sure it is the GSL/OSL champions get seeds into the other league (and they consider OSL as OGN's property, not Kespa's). Nothing else makes sense so it is this.
Idd, seems what is likely to happen now. And i guess the winner of RoRo/Symbol will get into OSL. Seems reasonable to me now. Nice if the OSL is coming back.
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IEM winner will be second seed.
IPL was going to be first, but it was cancelled.
Now here is where it get's mindblowing.
Mvp drops to Code B, so he can practice HotS exclusively. At IEM, he destroys everyone with speed medivacs and widow mines, and get's the seed into Code S, then he goes to MLG and wins that cashing another bunch of money on top of the $30k of IEM, then he gets back to Korea for Code S and destroys Code S as everyone else was practicing WoL for up and downs.
Then he retires.
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On March 09 2013 16:02 Fenrax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 15:49 Black Gun wrote:On March 09 2013 15:11 Shady Sands wrote:On March 09 2013 15:07 Black Gun wrote:On March 08 2013 10:35 BradenKuntz wrote:
I thought the whole idea of having a wild card group was really freaking awesome, so I'm kind of bummed to see that's not going to happen anymore. I'm not saying giving out seeds is a bad thing, I'm just really curious (right along with everyone else) what their reasoning is going to be behind this. I'm sure it'll be a good reason, GOM has been pretty good over the years at being very professional. Still, I'm just really curious about it all though. yeah, wildcard groups have the potential to be epic. does anyone remember jangbi's run of awesomeness that started in an insanely stacked wildcard group, picked up on the "legend of the tiebreaker" introduced by effort, then sending god young ho flash to the hospital, followed by a sick 5 set final with a nailbiting game 5 including an impossible comeback by jangbi. all that began in the wildcard groups. wildcardgroups induce awesomeness. Imagine if they just picked Bisu out of popularity for that OSL, and then he died to somebody like go.go or Shine? ouch, to a former bisu fan like me, this was a real low blow. FORMER Bisu fan? You just wait for HotS, then you will come back.
Shine is in Code S buddy, not going to happen lol.
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On March 10 2013 00:48 ppshchik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 16:02 Fenrax wrote:On March 09 2013 15:49 Black Gun wrote:On March 09 2013 15:11 Shady Sands wrote:On March 09 2013 15:07 Black Gun wrote:On March 08 2013 10:35 BradenKuntz wrote:
I thought the whole idea of having a wild card group was really freaking awesome, so I'm kind of bummed to see that's not going to happen anymore. I'm not saying giving out seeds is a bad thing, I'm just really curious (right along with everyone else) what their reasoning is going to be behind this. I'm sure it'll be a good reason, GOM has been pretty good over the years at being very professional. Still, I'm just really curious about it all though. yeah, wildcard groups have the potential to be epic. does anyone remember jangbi's run of awesomeness that started in an insanely stacked wildcard group, picked up on the "legend of the tiebreaker" introduced by effort, then sending god young ho flash to the hospital, followed by a sick 5 set final with a nailbiting game 5 including an impossible comeback by jangbi. all that began in the wildcard groups. wildcardgroups induce awesomeness. Imagine if they just picked Bisu out of popularity for that OSL, and then he died to somebody like go.go or Shine? ouch, to a former bisu fan like me, this was a real low blow. FORMER Bisu fan? You just wait for HotS, then you will come back. Shine is in Code S buddy, not going to happen lol.
Pretty sure he's talking about Jangbi's first OSL win.
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On March 09 2013 20:32 alvadr wrote:
IEM winner will be second seed.
IPL was going to be first, but it was cancelled.
Now here is where it get's mindblowing.
Mvp drops to Code B, so he can practice HotS exclusively. At IEM, he destroys everyone with speed medivacs and widow mines, and get's the seed into Code S, then he goes to MLG and wins that cashing another bunch of money on top of the $30k of IEM, then he gets back to Korea for Code S and destroys Code S as everyone else was practicing WoL for up and downs.
Then he retires.
Replace MVP with YoDa and its still doable.
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YoDa is already Code S. First deserves the spot more after IEM but I still think Mvp will get it. Mvp draws more viewers than anyone else besides maybe MC.
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On March 10 2013 10:28 jalstar wrote:
YoDa is already Code S. First deserves the spot more after IEM but I still think Mvp will get it. Mvp draws more viewers than anyone else besides maybe MC.
MVP vs YoDa was much closer than YoDa vs First. He would probably have gotten second if he did not have the misfortune of being on the same side of the bracket as YoDa. I think MVP deserves the seed more than First.
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well if they want to give a seed to MVP they could basically say something along the lines of "he is the ultimate GSL WoL champion" <insert random number of titles, finals, points to justify it> rather than "well he performed good at IEM so hmm, let's take that guy again".
the fact that he did good at IEM should motivate them to do so though, as he proved he is in sharp shape on Hots and this could create an epic storyline.
but as my own mythology goes, since he is actullay good on hots, i'd rather have him somehow get a Code A spot instead, crawl his way back to code S season 3 and then destroy it. the return of the fallen king.
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To make any logic of it - Now "First" has to be seeded. As a runner up in IEM. Or no seed from IEM cause Yoda has code S place.
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Edit: Redundant post is redundant
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Fenrax
United States5018 Posts
The second seed should go MVP. The point of seeds was never purely based on one single result unless it was previously announced. It was usually a combination "who draws most viewers" and "who deserves it most". And I think in BOTH categories MVP is a class of its own.
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Hots without MVP would be Terminator 2 without Arnold... The sequel needs mvp :-)
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Did GOM ever explain what they said would be coming? I see the OP hasn't been updated and I haven't seen anything in the past couple of pages.
What was the big thing that made them seed Rain?
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