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On March 08 2013 06:52 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 06:10 sertman wrote:On March 08 2013 02:17 Waxangel wrote:On March 08 2013 02:11 Shady Sands wrote:On March 08 2013 00:09 Doodsmack wrote:
I'd be shocked if foreigner presence didn't increase viewership. And you have to look at VOD views not just live viewers. Especially if the foreigner advances far. For that reason it's justified. Would be awesome if Scarlett got the other seed.
And anyone who gets their panties in a bunch over these seeds needs to lay off the drama. We really could do without the excessive drama over minor issues. The issue here is that many of us would rather have watch a tournament where the outcome wasn't messed with to increase viewership numbers. It's the same feeling of revulsion if the NBA started awarding playoff spots to the Lakers or the Bulls every year because those teams were 'popular' and increased TV viewership numbers. The NBA dOES engage in viewership increasing activities at the cost of competition tho  The most recent example of this would be Ibaka not being suspended after egregiously punching Blake Griffin in the groin, when Ibaka was due to play in a nationally televised and hyped game against the Lakers the next day. That's completely different from seeding a team into the playoffs based on their popularity...
You must not watch the NBA lol The Lakers have a huge history of being favored by referees for more ratings. The commissioner himself once said that his ideal NBA Finals would be Lakers vs. Lakers, and any NBA fan still remembers the Kings series to this day lol The heat and thunder get similar treatment now. As a Spurs fan, the discrepancy is obvious.
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Fenrax
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Still waiting on the explanation for Rain's seed and if the "Rain's seed has no relation to KeSPA" statement holds true.
For the other seed, the only deserving player atm is MvP.With his IEM performance he has proven that he still has got it (even if he loses in 1/4 he would still be 5-1 against solid opponents), and his accomplishments are unrivaled.
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United Kingdom14103 Posts
On March 08 2013 03:30 Wingblade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2013 18:52 Postman wrote:On March 07 2013 18:42 Targe wrote:On March 07 2013 18:22 Exells wrote:On March 07 2013 18:18 Assirra wrote:On March 07 2013 16:55 SoFrOsTy wrote:
Mmm... He deserved it IMO. He still the best toss in the game right now. No one plays as well as him. WOL Toss is struggling and yet he still has a positive win rate against pros using safe builds. He rare all-ins. I don't see how you can claim he is better then Parting tbh. And MC... Btw, i really believe the last seed is for Scarlett. I believe they have invited her already, and she's gonna go to Korea to play GSTL so why not play Code S also ? Please no. No more foreign seeds! They bring in the viewers, and that's important. Especially with HotS coming out, they need to capitalize on all the buzz they can. Besides, Stephano has managed to show he deserves his slot. It's possible someone else can too. Lol no, I'm sorry Stephano has not proven he deserves a Code S spot. He's won 1 best of 3 series in GSL in the Losers Match in ro32, lost his one Code A best of three, and then got a 4-man group with MKP and two relatively weak Protoss players. The only thing proven so far is that GOM is really, really desperate to have Stephano in Code S no matter what.
That's not totally fair, Bogus was playing really well and their first series was really close, he came 3rd in his group which isn't a bad show for a group with an on fire DRG and an on form Bogus.
Just so you know I'm actually anti-Stephano.
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On March 08 2013 07:20 ffadicted wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2013 06:52 Shady Sands wrote:On March 08 2013 06:10 sertman wrote:On March 08 2013 02:17 Waxangel wrote:On March 08 2013 02:11 Shady Sands wrote:On March 08 2013 00:09 Doodsmack wrote:
I'd be shocked if foreigner presence didn't increase viewership. And you have to look at VOD views not just live viewers. Especially if the foreigner advances far. For that reason it's justified. Would be awesome if Scarlett got the other seed.
And anyone who gets their panties in a bunch over these seeds needs to lay off the drama. We really could do without the excessive drama over minor issues. The issue here is that many of us would rather have watch a tournament where the outcome wasn't messed with to increase viewership numbers. It's the same feeling of revulsion if the NBA started awarding playoff spots to the Lakers or the Bulls every year because those teams were 'popular' and increased TV viewership numbers. The NBA dOES engage in viewership increasing activities at the cost of competition tho The most recent example of this would be Ibaka not being suspended after egregiously punching Blake Griffin in the groin, when Ibaka was due to play in a nationally televised and hyped game against the Lakers the next day. That's completely different from seeding a team into the playoffs based on their popularity... You must not watch the NBA lol The Lakers have a huge history of being favored by referees for more ratings. The commissioner himself once said that his ideal NBA Finals would be Lakers vs. Lakers, and any NBA fan still remembers the Kings series to this day lol The heat and thunder get similar treatment now. As a Spurs fan, the discrepancy is obvious.
As a spurs fan i understand the pain. When the Spurs make finals, the NBA loses out on a lot of revenue.
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rain shut us all up by winning LOL but I mean this sounds pretty unfair
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This has to be partially because he is protoss and partially because he had the misfortune of facing Flash in his Ro24 match. GSL needs more tosses for their first HotS tournament so that would be reasonable in my eyes, considering they NEED to seed somebody. After all, how many players should be eligible to get seeded anyways?
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On March 08 2013 08:31 13JackaL wrote:
This has to be partially because he is protoss and partially because he had the misfortune of facing Flash in his Ro24 match. GSL needs more tosses for their first HotS tournament so that would be reasonable in my eyes, considering they NEED to seed somebody. After all, how many players should be eligible to get seeded anyways?
But the letter said it's not about league popularity, so the reason about seeding popular protoss doesn't seem to fit this explanation letter.
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I thought the whole idea of having a wild card group was really freaking awesome, so I'm kind of bummed to see that's not going to happen anymore. I'm not saying giving out seeds is a bad thing, I'm just really curious (right along with everyone else) what their reasoning is going to be behind this. I'm sure it'll be a good reason, GOM has been pretty good over the years at being very professional. Still, I'm just really curious about it all though.
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I can't decide if Rain would best shut down his critics by winning the whole thing or by getting completely mauled. I'm looking forward to the explanation for this (almost) unprecedented action.
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Bisutopia19399 Posts
This has been quite the wait.
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As long as MVP gets the other seed with this IEM performance I don't care about rain getting his seed. Well unless it was actually Kespa bullying.
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I don't think it was actually kespa bullying, just wait and see
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stephano said that he didn't want to return to korea.. so they gave his spot to rain.
the remaigning seed will problaby go to scarlett because foreigners need something to cheer for
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On March 09 2013 03:04 bram--1995 wrote:
stephano said that he didn't want to return to korea.. so they gave his spot to rain.
the remaigning seed will problaby go to scarlett because foreigners need something to cheer for
In your case you have a spot empty 
-1 Stephano -2 seeds +1 Scarllet +1 Rain = -1
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If Stephano's actually giving up his Code S spot that's 3 seeds and not 2 right?
Scarlett, Rain, Mvp. Easy choices.
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On March 09 2013 03:16 Taipoka wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 03:04 bram--1995 wrote:
stephano said that he didn't want to return to korea.. so they gave his spot to rain.
the remaigning seed will problaby go to scarlett because foreigners need something to cheer for In your case you have a spot empty -1 Stephano -2 seeds +1 Scarllet +1 Rain = -1
I laugh so hard on this one
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On March 09 2013 03:40 jalstar wrote:
If Stephano's actually giving up his Code S spot that's 3 seeds and not 2 right?
Scarlett, Rain, Mvp. Easy choices.
I hope this would be true if MVP won IEM.
But what if he didn't. Would it be MLG champion maybe?
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Actually they might be giving up on seeding foreigners. Last season Stephano's Ro32 group got fewer twitch views and VOD views than Mvp's group or NesTea's group. Maybe the live views on GomTV were enough to make up for it but I doubt it.
On March 09 2013 03:44 Baroninthetree wrote:Show nested quote +On March 09 2013 03:40 jalstar wrote:
If Stephano's actually giving up his Code S spot that's 3 seeds and not 2 right?
Scarlett, Rain, Mvp. Easy choices. I hope this would be true if MVP won IEM. But what if he didn't. Would it be MLG champion maybe?
As I pointed out Mvp is an even bigger draw than Stephano is. They'd be crazy not to seed him especially since he's proven this weekend that he can play HotS really well.
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This shouldn't be very hard to explain -_-
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