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On March 18 2013 01:17 superstartran wrote:
The amount of unjustified whining/crying is unbelievable. No one is saying that there couldn't be something wrong, but to call for the nerf bat immediately when most of the games yesterday were relatively close is just hilarious. This is exactly what ruined WoL in the first place, was the ungodly amount of crying over things that made no sense. Exactly! At least wait for a GSL to finish before starting to worry about this stuff. With how the MLG brackets were set up there was no way it was going to look remotely even. We had the best GSL players playing against foreigners, of course it was going to be one-sided.
The game hasn't even been out a week. Slow down a little with the balance stuff. People have to learn how to deal with mines. We saw Life do it by sending one unit ahead to trip the mines, why can't we?
I just don't want this to turn into WoL again.
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On March 18 2013 01:22 hunts wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 00:56 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 00:53 MilesTeg wrote:On March 18 2013 00:31 Bagi wrote:On March 17 2013 23:37 MilesTeg wrote:
I agree, medivacs aren't the thing they need to nerf (avilo is right? wow that must be the first time).
The underlying problem here is how safe Terran is early game. There's nothing to keep them honest, you can get a great economy and tech to harassment units with no risk.
What's needed is:
1) Undo this stupid tank buff. It was a horrible idea at the time, it fixed nothing, and we're seeing the result now. There needs to be a timing when Terran is vulnerable if they go 3 OC and 1/1/1.
2) Reduce splash on mines so that they aren't so good defensively. They might lower the cost (in supply for instance) in compensation. Most terrans aren't even going tanks in the early game to defend. Not sure why you would nerf them in particular? If anything it would cripple any new mech styles in TvP where all-ins are already hard to defend. Mine splash radius is something Blizzard has said they are keeping an eye on. The fact that it's there, and the strength of widow mines defensively, means Zergs just don't attack. I could be wrong but I haven't seen many roach/baneling attacks. The reason is that it would be a completely stupid build. Add the possibility of a Zerg attack killing you and suddenly the matchup doesn't look the same. Terran can't get such a good economy, and can't just swarm you with infantry. I think you are wrong. sources: MLG yesterday. A lot of zerg pros went muta-bling with early bust too and roach follow ups. Ret did it pretty well, notably. And yet all those zergs except for life and killer lost their ZvTs 0-3 or 0-1, including leenock, stephano, and ret.
Ret played vs God, he was obviously gonna lose, what, are you surprised? Leenock played vs Innovation, games were really close, but Innovation definitely outclassed Leenock's play if you watched the games. Don't even pretend those players are equal in caliber. Life won because he easily outclassed the players he faced, as was the case with Flash vs Ret. Leenock vs Innovation, games were awfully close, and game 1 was reaper rush, it doesn't even matter, it was a build order loss. Stephano vs Last, Last easily played better and knew what to do vs roach aggression, not to mention his mechanics are easily superior 3 base terran vs 3 base zerg, and he was up by 50 supply, lol. Last vs Killer, I really don't think anyone expected anything other than a 3:0 or 3:1 either.
And the point is, nerfing the tanks would not have mattered at all, as Flash and Innovation used mostly widow mines NOT tanks, so why nerf something that won't even remotely address the issue at all? Addressing widow mine blast radius, on the other hand, is very debatable.
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Vatican City State582 Posts
On March 18 2013 01:26 ShamW0W wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 01:00 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 00:58 MilesTeg wrote:On March 18 2013 00:56 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 00:53 MilesTeg wrote:On March 18 2013 00:31 Bagi wrote:On March 17 2013 23:37 MilesTeg wrote:
I agree, medivacs aren't the thing they need to nerf (avilo is right? wow that must be the first time).
The underlying problem here is how safe Terran is early game. There's nothing to keep them honest, you can get a great economy and tech to harassment units with no risk.
What's needed is:
1) Undo this stupid tank buff. It was a horrible idea at the time, it fixed nothing, and we're seeing the result now. There needs to be a timing when Terran is vulnerable if they go 3 OC and 1/1/1.
2) Reduce splash on mines so that they aren't so good defensively. They might lower the cost (in supply for instance) in compensation. Most terrans aren't even going tanks in the early game to defend. Not sure why you would nerf them in particular? If anything it would cripple any new mech styles in TvP where all-ins are already hard to defend. Mine splash radius is something Blizzard has said they are keeping an eye on. The fact that it's there, and the strength of widow mines defensively, means Zergs just don't attack. I could be wrong but I haven't seen many roach/baneling attacks. The reason is that it would be a completely stupid build. Add the possibility of a Zerg attack killing you and suddenly the matchup doesn't look the same. Terran can't get such a good economy, and can't just swarm you with infantry. I think you are wrong. sources: MLG yesterday. A lot of zerg pros went muta-bling with early bust too and roach follow ups. Ret did it pretty well, notably. You'll have to be a bit more specific with your source your holiness. lol, specific? watch the ZvTs yesterday. Leenock and ret both went early lings+baneling bust in their ZvTs. Tanks or mines didn't stop zerg from early harass at all. And like the other guy mentioned, most terrans in tvz didn't even put a tech lab on their factories til mid/late game. Not to mention Innovation only did it to research the burrow speed upgrade for widow mines. Widow mines were much much more prominent in TvZ, thus I don't understand the tank OP QQ. Let me put it this way, in early game, it does not matter at all as ppl were going widow mines instead of tanks anyway, due to cost, production speed, and effectiveness. Nerfing tank won't do jack in TvZ, because you either need a second factory or you have to cut widow mines in favor of tanks - which nobody does anyway. edit: vods are up at MLG.tv btw Sure, Leenock and Ret tried aggression. They went 0-6 against Terran. Not sure what your point is here.
Not just any Terran, fyi. Don't pretend as though Ret stood a chance vs God.
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On March 18 2013 01:44 dacimvrl wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 01:26 ShamW0W wrote:On March 18 2013 01:00 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 00:58 MilesTeg wrote:On March 18 2013 00:56 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 00:53 MilesTeg wrote:On March 18 2013 00:31 Bagi wrote:On March 17 2013 23:37 MilesTeg wrote:
I agree, medivacs aren't the thing they need to nerf (avilo is right? wow that must be the first time).
The underlying problem here is how safe Terran is early game. There's nothing to keep them honest, you can get a great economy and tech to harassment units with no risk.
What's needed is:
1) Undo this stupid tank buff. It was a horrible idea at the time, it fixed nothing, and we're seeing the result now. There needs to be a timing when Terran is vulnerable if they go 3 OC and 1/1/1.
2) Reduce splash on mines so that they aren't so good defensively. They might lower the cost (in supply for instance) in compensation. Most terrans aren't even going tanks in the early game to defend. Not sure why you would nerf them in particular? If anything it would cripple any new mech styles in TvP where all-ins are already hard to defend. Mine splash radius is something Blizzard has said they are keeping an eye on. The fact that it's there, and the strength of widow mines defensively, means Zergs just don't attack. I could be wrong but I haven't seen many roach/baneling attacks. The reason is that it would be a completely stupid build. Add the possibility of a Zerg attack killing you and suddenly the matchup doesn't look the same. Terran can't get such a good economy, and can't just swarm you with infantry. I think you are wrong. sources: MLG yesterday. A lot of zerg pros went muta-bling with early bust too and roach follow ups. Ret did it pretty well, notably. You'll have to be a bit more specific with your source your holiness. lol, specific? watch the ZvTs yesterday. Leenock and ret both went early lings+baneling bust in their ZvTs. Tanks or mines didn't stop zerg from early harass at all. And like the other guy mentioned, most terrans in tvz didn't even put a tech lab on their factories til mid/late game. Not to mention Innovation only did it to research the burrow speed upgrade for widow mines. Widow mines were much much more prominent in TvZ, thus I don't understand the tank OP QQ. Let me put it this way, in early game, it does not matter at all as ppl were going widow mines instead of tanks anyway, due to cost, production speed, and effectiveness. Nerfing tank won't do jack in TvZ, because you either need a second factory or you have to cut widow mines in favor of tanks - which nobody does anyway. edit: vods are up at MLG.tv btw Sure, Leenock and Ret tried aggression. They went 0-6 against Terran. Not sure what your point is here. Not just any Terran, fyi. Don't pretend as though Ret stood a chance vs God.
Really, using a meme as proof of balance?
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On March 18 2013 01:53 haffy wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 01:44 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 01:26 ShamW0W wrote:On March 18 2013 01:00 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 00:58 MilesTeg wrote:On March 18 2013 00:56 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 00:53 MilesTeg wrote:On March 18 2013 00:31 Bagi wrote:On March 17 2013 23:37 MilesTeg wrote:
I agree, medivacs aren't the thing they need to nerf (avilo is right? wow that must be the first time).
The underlying problem here is how safe Terran is early game. There's nothing to keep them honest, you can get a great economy and tech to harassment units with no risk.
What's needed is:
1) Undo this stupid tank buff. It was a horrible idea at the time, it fixed nothing, and we're seeing the result now. There needs to be a timing when Terran is vulnerable if they go 3 OC and 1/1/1.
2) Reduce splash on mines so that they aren't so good defensively. They might lower the cost (in supply for instance) in compensation. Most terrans aren't even going tanks in the early game to defend. Not sure why you would nerf them in particular? If anything it would cripple any new mech styles in TvP where all-ins are already hard to defend. Mine splash radius is something Blizzard has said they are keeping an eye on. The fact that it's there, and the strength of widow mines defensively, means Zergs just don't attack. I could be wrong but I haven't seen many roach/baneling attacks. The reason is that it would be a completely stupid build. Add the possibility of a Zerg attack killing you and suddenly the matchup doesn't look the same. Terran can't get such a good economy, and can't just swarm you with infantry. I think you are wrong. sources: MLG yesterday. A lot of zerg pros went muta-bling with early bust too and roach follow ups. Ret did it pretty well, notably. You'll have to be a bit more specific with your source your holiness. lol, specific? watch the ZvTs yesterday. Leenock and ret both went early lings+baneling bust in their ZvTs. Tanks or mines didn't stop zerg from early harass at all. And like the other guy mentioned, most terrans in tvz didn't even put a tech lab on their factories til mid/late game. Not to mention Innovation only did it to research the burrow speed upgrade for widow mines. Widow mines were much much more prominent in TvZ, thus I don't understand the tank OP QQ. Let me put it this way, in early game, it does not matter at all as ppl were going widow mines instead of tanks anyway, due to cost, production speed, and effectiveness. Nerfing tank won't do jack in TvZ, because you either need a second factory or you have to cut widow mines in favor of tanks - which nobody does anyway. edit: vods are up at MLG.tv btw Sure, Leenock and Ret tried aggression. They went 0-6 against Terran. Not sure what your point is here. Not just any Terran, fyi. Don't pretend as though Ret stood a chance vs God. Really, using a meme as proof of balance?
really? thinking ret even stands a chance vs Flash? What you smoking?
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A "better" player (Flash) wins vs a "worse" player (Ret) and you cry imba?! LOLZ
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This Kespa players are just way better then everyone else. Most people dont realize who these guys are. I mean its Flash, player who is considered best Starcraft player of all time. Of course he is that good. Terrans are owning MLG, but look at these players. There are best Korean Terrans vs foreigner Zergs, except for Leenock and Life, who is doing great so far. More time and more tournaments are needed to really talk about balance and not just whine.
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On March 18 2013 01:44 dacimvrl wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 01:26 ShamW0W wrote:On March 18 2013 01:00 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 00:58 MilesTeg wrote:On March 18 2013 00:56 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 00:53 MilesTeg wrote:On March 18 2013 00:31 Bagi wrote:On March 17 2013 23:37 MilesTeg wrote:
I agree, medivacs aren't the thing they need to nerf (avilo is right? wow that must be the first time).
The underlying problem here is how safe Terran is early game. There's nothing to keep them honest, you can get a great economy and tech to harassment units with no risk.
What's needed is:
1) Undo this stupid tank buff. It was a horrible idea at the time, it fixed nothing, and we're seeing the result now. There needs to be a timing when Terran is vulnerable if they go 3 OC and 1/1/1.
2) Reduce splash on mines so that they aren't so good defensively. They might lower the cost (in supply for instance) in compensation. Most terrans aren't even going tanks in the early game to defend. Not sure why you would nerf them in particular? If anything it would cripple any new mech styles in TvP where all-ins are already hard to defend. Mine splash radius is something Blizzard has said they are keeping an eye on. The fact that it's there, and the strength of widow mines defensively, means Zergs just don't attack. I could be wrong but I haven't seen many roach/baneling attacks. The reason is that it would be a completely stupid build. Add the possibility of a Zerg attack killing you and suddenly the matchup doesn't look the same. Terran can't get such a good economy, and can't just swarm you with infantry. I think you are wrong. sources: MLG yesterday. A lot of zerg pros went muta-bling with early bust too and roach follow ups. Ret did it pretty well, notably. You'll have to be a bit more specific with your source your holiness. lol, specific? watch the ZvTs yesterday. Leenock and ret both went early lings+baneling bust in their ZvTs. Tanks or mines didn't stop zerg from early harass at all. And like the other guy mentioned, most terrans in tvz didn't even put a tech lab on their factories til mid/late game. Not to mention Innovation only did it to research the burrow speed upgrade for widow mines. Widow mines were much much more prominent in TvZ, thus I don't understand the tank OP QQ. Let me put it this way, in early game, it does not matter at all as ppl were going widow mines instead of tanks anyway, due to cost, production speed, and effectiveness. Nerfing tank won't do jack in TvZ, because you either need a second factory or you have to cut widow mines in favor of tanks - which nobody does anyway. edit: vods are up at MLG.tv btw Sure, Leenock and Ret tried aggression. They went 0-6 against Terran. Not sure what your point is here. Not just any Terran, fyi. Don't pretend as though Ret stood a chance vs God.
I'm not the one attempting to make a point, that was you. I was simply pointing out that the example you used to prove your point (yesterday's ZvTs) all resulted in Zerg losses. So, why would I watch the ZvTs yesterday to understand how effective these busts are?
Feels like troll, I'll leave it alone.
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On March 18 2013 02:19 ShamW0W wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 01:44 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 01:26 ShamW0W wrote:On March 18 2013 01:00 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 00:58 MilesTeg wrote:On March 18 2013 00:56 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 00:53 MilesTeg wrote:On March 18 2013 00:31 Bagi wrote:On March 17 2013 23:37 MilesTeg wrote:
I agree, medivacs aren't the thing they need to nerf (avilo is right? wow that must be the first time).
The underlying problem here is how safe Terran is early game. There's nothing to keep them honest, you can get a great economy and tech to harassment units with no risk.
What's needed is:
1) Undo this stupid tank buff. It was a horrible idea at the time, it fixed nothing, and we're seeing the result now. There needs to be a timing when Terran is vulnerable if they go 3 OC and 1/1/1.
2) Reduce splash on mines so that they aren't so good defensively. They might lower the cost (in supply for instance) in compensation. Most terrans aren't even going tanks in the early game to defend. Not sure why you would nerf them in particular? If anything it would cripple any new mech styles in TvP where all-ins are already hard to defend. Mine splash radius is something Blizzard has said they are keeping an eye on. The fact that it's there, and the strength of widow mines defensively, means Zergs just don't attack. I could be wrong but I haven't seen many roach/baneling attacks. The reason is that it would be a completely stupid build. Add the possibility of a Zerg attack killing you and suddenly the matchup doesn't look the same. Terran can't get such a good economy, and can't just swarm you with infantry. I think you are wrong. sources: MLG yesterday. A lot of zerg pros went muta-bling with early bust too and roach follow ups. Ret did it pretty well, notably. You'll have to be a bit more specific with your source your holiness. lol, specific? watch the ZvTs yesterday. Leenock and ret both went early lings+baneling bust in their ZvTs. Tanks or mines didn't stop zerg from early harass at all. And like the other guy mentioned, most terrans in tvz didn't even put a tech lab on their factories til mid/late game. Not to mention Innovation only did it to research the burrow speed upgrade for widow mines. Widow mines were much much more prominent in TvZ, thus I don't understand the tank OP QQ. Let me put it this way, in early game, it does not matter at all as ppl were going widow mines instead of tanks anyway, due to cost, production speed, and effectiveness. Nerfing tank won't do jack in TvZ, because you either need a second factory or you have to cut widow mines in favor of tanks - which nobody does anyway. edit: vods are up at MLG.tv btw Sure, Leenock and Ret tried aggression. They went 0-6 against Terran. Not sure what your point is here. Not just any Terran, fyi. Don't pretend as though Ret stood a chance vs God. I'm not the one attempting to make a point, that was you. I was simply pointing out that the example you used to prove your point (yesterday's ZvTs) all resulted in Zerg losses. So, why would I watch the ZvTs yesterday to understand how effective these busts are? Feels like troll, I'll leave it alone.
lol, my point is that whatever you think you pointed out was pointless and nerfing tanks wouldn't have changed a thing as they weren't used..instead, Widow Mines were. And I acknowledged that a potential widow mine nerf is definitely debatable, but the game hasn't even been out for a week, and you already cry imba.... Flash 3:0s Ret, and you cry imba? seriously? Pretty obvious you are the troll here.. /inb4 you should own Flash in TvZ, or Terran is imba..
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If anyone says balance issues based on foreigners losing to Korean terrans than terran deserves a buff since foreign terrans can't win vs koreans or fellow foreigners.
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On March 18 2013 01:44 dacimvrl wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 01:26 ShamW0W wrote:On March 18 2013 01:00 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 00:58 MilesTeg wrote:On March 18 2013 00:56 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 00:53 MilesTeg wrote:On March 18 2013 00:31 Bagi wrote:On March 17 2013 23:37 MilesTeg wrote:
I agree, medivacs aren't the thing they need to nerf (avilo is right? wow that must be the first time).
The underlying problem here is how safe Terran is early game. There's nothing to keep them honest, you can get a great economy and tech to harassment units with no risk.
What's needed is:
1) Undo this stupid tank buff. It was a horrible idea at the time, it fixed nothing, and we're seeing the result now. There needs to be a timing when Terran is vulnerable if they go 3 OC and 1/1/1.
2) Reduce splash on mines so that they aren't so good defensively. They might lower the cost (in supply for instance) in compensation. Most terrans aren't even going tanks in the early game to defend. Not sure why you would nerf them in particular? If anything it would cripple any new mech styles in TvP where all-ins are already hard to defend. Mine splash radius is something Blizzard has said they are keeping an eye on. The fact that it's there, and the strength of widow mines defensively, means Zergs just don't attack. I could be wrong but I haven't seen many roach/baneling attacks. The reason is that it would be a completely stupid build. Add the possibility of a Zerg attack killing you and suddenly the matchup doesn't look the same. Terran can't get such a good economy, and can't just swarm you with infantry. I think you are wrong. sources: MLG yesterday. A lot of zerg pros went muta-bling with early bust too and roach follow ups. Ret did it pretty well, notably. You'll have to be a bit more specific with your source your holiness. lol, specific? watch the ZvTs yesterday. Leenock and ret both went early lings+baneling bust in their ZvTs. Tanks or mines didn't stop zerg from early harass at all. And like the other guy mentioned, most terrans in tvz didn't even put a tech lab on their factories til mid/late game. Not to mention Innovation only did it to research the burrow speed upgrade for widow mines. Widow mines were much much more prominent in TvZ, thus I don't understand the tank OP QQ. Let me put it this way, in early game, it does not matter at all as ppl were going widow mines instead of tanks anyway, due to cost, production speed, and effectiveness. Nerfing tank won't do jack in TvZ, because you either need a second factory or you have to cut widow mines in favor of tanks - which nobody does anyway. edit: vods are up at MLG.tv btw Sure, Leenock and Ret tried aggression. They went 0-6 against Terran. Not sure what your point is here. Not just any Terran, fyi. Don't pretend as though Ret stood a chance vs God.
Also that Ultra transition pretty much killed Ret. Should have stuck with Hydra Viper and maybe added infestors or Banlings. Flash already had maruaders making Ultras is asking to be slapped silly by the Terran,
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On March 18 2013 00:15 Luolis wrote:
Mech is so broken as fuck.
Im a terran.
Haha yeah that's why no pro players use mech. I wish mech was good :3
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Here's my issue with everyone recommending adding a mana cost to speed boost, in the late game this would actually work against P in my opinion. T's could use multiple speed boosts to lower the mana on a medivac to prevent feedback deaths which is THE most effective late game option to shut down drops. Obviously T's can mitigate this damage naturally by using newer medivacs, but I think it's gotta be more of a decision between using medivacs speed boost to get in to the enemy base OR to get out of the enemy base, not both. Needs a cooldown increase or a tech research or something...this MLG is brutal to watch PvT right now.
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On March 18 2013 01:58 dacimvrl wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2013 01:53 haffy wrote:On March 18 2013 01:44 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 01:26 ShamW0W wrote:On March 18 2013 01:00 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 00:58 MilesTeg wrote:On March 18 2013 00:56 dacimvrl wrote:On March 18 2013 00:53 MilesTeg wrote:On March 18 2013 00:31 Bagi wrote:On March 17 2013 23:37 MilesTeg wrote:
I agree, medivacs aren't the thing they need to nerf (avilo is right? wow that must be the first time).
The underlying problem here is how safe Terran is early game. There's nothing to keep them honest, you can get a great economy and tech to harassment units with no risk.
What's needed is:
1) Undo this stupid tank buff. It was a horrible idea at the time, it fixed nothing, and we're seeing the result now. There needs to be a timing when Terran is vulnerable if they go 3 OC and 1/1/1.
2) Reduce splash on mines so that they aren't so good defensively. They might lower the cost (in supply for instance) in compensation. Most terrans aren't even going tanks in the early game to defend. Not sure why you would nerf them in particular? If anything it would cripple any new mech styles in TvP where all-ins are already hard to defend. Mine splash radius is something Blizzard has said they are keeping an eye on. The fact that it's there, and the strength of widow mines defensively, means Zergs just don't attack. I could be wrong but I haven't seen many roach/baneling attacks. The reason is that it would be a completely stupid build. Add the possibility of a Zerg attack killing you and suddenly the matchup doesn't look the same. Terran can't get such a good economy, and can't just swarm you with infantry. I think you are wrong. sources: MLG yesterday. A lot of zerg pros went muta-bling with early bust too and roach follow ups. Ret did it pretty well, notably. You'll have to be a bit more specific with your source your holiness. lol, specific? watch the ZvTs yesterday. Leenock and ret both went early lings+baneling bust in their ZvTs. Tanks or mines didn't stop zerg from early harass at all. And like the other guy mentioned, most terrans in tvz didn't even put a tech lab on their factories til mid/late game. Not to mention Innovation only did it to research the burrow speed upgrade for widow mines. Widow mines were much much more prominent in TvZ, thus I don't understand the tank OP QQ. Let me put it this way, in early game, it does not matter at all as ppl were going widow mines instead of tanks anyway, due to cost, production speed, and effectiveness. Nerfing tank won't do jack in TvZ, because you either need a second factory or you have to cut widow mines in favor of tanks - which nobody does anyway. edit: vods are up at MLG.tv btw Sure, Leenock and Ret tried aggression. They went 0-6 against Terran. Not sure what your point is here. Not just any Terran, fyi. Don't pretend as though Ret stood a chance vs God. Really, using a meme as proof of balance? really? thinking ret even stands a chance vs Flash? What you smoking?
Yeah you're right. Flash. I mean whats e=? Flash. What is light. Flash. Flash AhahHAHAh, he's a miracle. King of the impossible. So as you can see from my well thought out post Terran is perfectly balanced.
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Well, korean terrans doesn't only beat foreign Zs and Ps also top koreans.
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i really think widow mine shouldnt hit air.
would buff some harras options vs terra and wont hurt terra vs air units, because of marines and the new thor. there are tons of anti air and let us be fair, oracle and muta harras vs zerg is really something that you defend sooo easy.
for the rest lets see how the balance turns out in some weeks, especially zergs need to elarn the new timings they are hurt by this addon, because its the reactive race.
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Now let's watch Life's ass get kicked by Last's mass widowmines and then say Last is the better player...
WoL balance started out terran favoured and gave the first tourneys to terrans.
HotS is on its way to do the same.
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them medivacs on crack lol, pretty imba indeed. widow mines are fine, other races just gotta start learning that they need to get detection before pushing.
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Honestly the argument that Terran is Hots is Balanced or imbalanced at this point is pretty dumb. Frankly it is impossible for anyone who honestly analyzes the games to really determine at this stage. I'll admit that the combination of widow mines and speed medivacs especially against zergs feels like a problem. However On the other side I am watching every zerg try the same tactics with little variation that has been shut down cold each time. So I certainly am not going to say it is imbalanced when there are a number of other viable strategies that just aren't getting leveraged. It however is certainly something that needs to be watched very close in the coming months.
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