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synd
Bulgaria586 Posts
On March 05 2013 12:28 bobsire wrote: medivac boost is not OP. Blizz is right... learn to deal with it instead of complaining. Coming from a terran. Sounds fucking legit. | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
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c0sm0naut
United States1229 Posts
On March 06 2013 21:37 MstrJinbo wrote: I don't remember there being 20+ widow mines in that game. Since Ret's IEM game isn't relevant to his above statement I don't understand why you feel this is an appropriate place to comment on the loss. sure, that's fair enough. if he opens the door to comments on widow mines by calling it impossible to lose with 20+ as wel as bio, i feel this is an appropriate place to address it. i hope you or ret are not offended, that wasn't my intended purpose of the comment. | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On March 08 2013 07:26 HeeroFX wrote: I still think widow mines are bad because they are super punishing and you can just die if you mess up with them. That's like saying marines are bad/super punishing if you don't split them vs banelings...... | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
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Tsubbi
Germany7996 Posts
On March 08 2013 07:30 TotalBiscuit wrote: Why does the community seem so willing to knee-jerk demand nerfs to everything interesting in the game before it's had a chance to properly develop? i agree, would prefer if they buff other races instead this time | ||
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ShamW0W
160 Posts
On March 08 2013 07:30 TotalBiscuit wrote: Why does the community seem so willing to knee-jerk demand nerfs to everything interesting in the game before it's had a chance to properly develop? That's a LOADED question. Quick answer: immaturity | ||
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Infinite Loop
New Zealand41 Posts
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zhurai
United States5660 Posts
also this game hasn't even been out yet (with even the latest beta patch) for 3months. I'm not inclined to consider anything op until quite awhile has passed, considering the last year of WoL...... | ||
Destructicon
4713 Posts
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Targe
United Kingdom14103 Posts
On March 08 2013 07:26 HeeroFX wrote: I still think widow mines are bad because they are super punishing and you can just die if you mess up with them. Good, higher skill ceiling the better. FFS I'm getting tired of people complaining about balance, the game isn't even fricking out yet and people are already demanding nerfs, it's like there are people who believe they cannot win without getting the other races nerfed. On March 06 2013 19:13 RyanRushia wrote: great to see blizzard relaxing with the nerfs/buffs and letting the game develop more before any big changes are made. glad to take it a bit slower  More of this attitude please, we'll end up with a far, far better game this way. On March 08 2013 07:36 Destructicon wrote: Oh this is disgusting, the game isn't even officially released yet, the pro players haven't even fully grasped all the changes and their implications, and already people are asking for nerfs. Just wait it out till 1 or 2 months after release and if its still an issue then proper measures can be taken with the data that gets collected in the meanwhile. Exactly. On March 08 2013 07:30 TotalBiscuit wrote: Why does the community seem so willing to knee-jerk demand nerfs to everything interesting in the game before it's had a chance to properly develop? We'll never know, let's just hope they don't get their way. | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On March 08 2013 07:34 ShamW0W wrote: That's a LOADED question. Quick answer: immaturity No. It is because that is how Blizzard balanced WOL: big nerfs left and right, sometimes with minimal time for players to adapt (Thor, Ghost, etc) | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On March 05 2013 09:12 SoOJuuu wrote: its not that speedvacs are OP, the fact that it doesnt use energy does. It would be like stim without the damage.... no risk to not use it once again blizzard doesnt understand. [insert idra past comment with the tire iron] i cant really agree with that - it costing energy acutally wouldnt make it a lot less OP (then again, it would be about the amount of energy it costs). the sheer speedboost and the duration / cooldown on it are what make it very strong. But i dont mind things being strong right now. in some situations, it could even be worse if it costs energy - feedbacks would do less damage :D | ||
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KalWarkov
Germany4126 Posts
On March 08 2013 07:30 TotalBiscuit wrote: Why does the community seem so willing to knee-jerk demand nerfs to everything interesting in the game before it's had a chance to properly develop? well, some things in the game can be very obviously imbalanced. In those cases, not nerfing would fuck up results (and probably some players pockets as well) pretty badly. is this the case right now in heart of the swarm? im not sure - but i dont mind very MINOR changes to things that appear too strong to everyone. That doesnt mean that u have to remove any interesting elements of the game, u just have to tweak them very little to such an extend, that they possibly still appear overpowered for the moment. Im totally fine with blizzard thinking about nerfing protoss lategame air and medivac speed boost - i would even add widow mines to that list. I just hope they do extremly small changes and dont "remove" specific aspects of the game (example: medivac speed boost costs 15 energy --> that might turn out to be a good change, it doesnt do a whole lot, but might help in some situations | Bad change: medivac boost gets a 40 second cooldown --> just way too much, takes out interesting gameplay) | ||
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Shantastic
United States435 Posts
That said, if you want to /fp at the quality of the debate, I'm sure there's plenty of good material to work with. | ||
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unteqair
United States308 Posts
It's good that they are going to wait to see, though. Most likely if changes to these mentioned pieces come, they will be small. In any case, people will still complain, especially when Protoss loses. If a P wins IEM it might greatly lower the chances of the 2nd change though. | ||
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TwilightRain
Germany351 Posts
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vinsang1000
Belgium365 Posts
On March 17 2013 06:26 TwilightRain wrote: I seriously hope Blizzard will wait another couple of months before trying to nerf anything. Food for thought: Despite all the boosters OP calls, I didn't see a single ZvT at MLG yet where Zergs were going for a muta heavy style or spore defense... neither abduct style defense. +1 to wait before nerf | ||
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Jasiwel
United States146 Posts
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