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Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
March 03 2013 22:57 GMT
#181
On March 04 2013 07:51 Talack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 06:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Comparing LoL to SC2 is like comparing a sedan to a van. Both have similar functions as vehicles (or as strategy games), but have different functions as a whole. A sedan is utilized for quick and easy travel, often carrying no more than four people (just like StarCraft), but built for a person or a rider. A van on the other hand is almost entirely designed to carry multiple people, not just a single person. So comparing the two is ridiculous in some ways because it becomes another "Apple vs Orange" dilemma that doesn't give an accurate solution.


The funny thing is that LoL players "never" discuss SC2 unless it's brought up by SC2 players. They just don't care at all, they don't care about how insecure SC2 players are about their game not breaking new viewership records every tournament, they don't care about some race completely dominating every single tournament, they don't care about some stupid strategy being used over and over, they don't care about anything sc2 related and they 200% do not care what a bunch of elitist think about their game being easier to pick up.

LoL discussions are about how much they enjoy the game or how to deal with certain things like "x hero vs y hero" or "should I get this item?" or about how exciting the current game they're watching is. Don't know why people have to hate on something that is actually going to keep a dying industry alive within the next few years so we can actually have sc2 tournaments, because sc2 is not doing nearly as much for esports as LoL is, not even close at all.

It's interesting that you should say that, because it seems to me that every "SC2 is a better/harder/more competitive/has more viewers esport than LoL" conversation is brought about by a troll saying that LoL is better... on a starcraft forum. Most people seem not to care untill they are challenged.
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ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
March 03 2013 23:01 GMT
#182
On March 04 2013 07:57 Walnuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 07:51 Talack wrote:
On March 04 2013 06:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Comparing LoL to SC2 is like comparing a sedan to a van. Both have similar functions as vehicles (or as strategy games), but have different functions as a whole. A sedan is utilized for quick and easy travel, often carrying no more than four people (just like StarCraft), but built for a person or a rider. A van on the other hand is almost entirely designed to carry multiple people, not just a single person. So comparing the two is ridiculous in some ways because it becomes another "Apple vs Orange" dilemma that doesn't give an accurate solution.


The funny thing is that LoL players "never" discuss SC2 unless it's brought up by SC2 players. They just don't care at all, they don't care about how insecure SC2 players are about their game not breaking new viewership records every tournament, they don't care about some race completely dominating every single tournament, they don't care about some stupid strategy being used over and over, they don't care about anything sc2 related and they 200% do not care what a bunch of elitist think about their game being easier to pick up.

LoL discussions are about how much they enjoy the game or how to deal with certain things like "x hero vs y hero" or "should I get this item?" or about how exciting the current game they're watching is. Don't know why people have to hate on something that is actually going to keep a dying industry alive within the next few years so we can actually have sc2 tournaments, because sc2 is not doing nearly as much for esports as LoL is, not even close at all.

It's interesting that you should say that, because it seems to me that every "SC2 is a better/harder/more competitive/has more viewers esport than LoL" conversation is brought about by a troll saying that LoL is better... on a starcraft forum. Most people seem not to care untill they are challenged.

God, this is a thread about 3 extremely awesome players maybe coming back to Sc2 and you guys are still whining about Starcraft vs LoL. None gives a fuck about this shit.

sC, Coca and Puzzle might come back


Be happy, unthankful pricks. We don't get news as good as this one every day.
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Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
March 03 2013 23:56 GMT
#183
On March 04 2013 07:57 Walnuts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 07:51 Talack wrote:
On March 04 2013 06:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Comparing LoL to SC2 is like comparing a sedan to a van. Both have similar functions as vehicles (or as strategy games), but have different functions as a whole. A sedan is utilized for quick and easy travel, often carrying no more than four people (just like StarCraft), but built for a person or a rider. A van on the other hand is almost entirely designed to carry multiple people, not just a single person. So comparing the two is ridiculous in some ways because it becomes another "Apple vs Orange" dilemma that doesn't give an accurate solution.


The funny thing is that LoL players "never" discuss SC2 unless it's brought up by SC2 players. They just don't care at all, they don't care about how insecure SC2 players are about their game not breaking new viewership records every tournament, they don't care about some race completely dominating every single tournament, they don't care about some stupid strategy being used over and over, they don't care about anything sc2 related and they 200% do not care what a bunch of elitist think about their game being easier to pick up.

LoL discussions are about how much they enjoy the game or how to deal with certain things like "x hero vs y hero" or "should I get this item?" or about how exciting the current game they're watching is. Don't know why people have to hate on something that is actually going to keep a dying industry alive within the next few years so we can actually have sc2 tournaments, because sc2 is not doing nearly as much for esports as LoL is, not even close at all.

It's interesting that you should say that, because it seems to me that every "SC2 is a better/harder/more competitive/has more viewers esport than LoL" conversation is brought about by a troll saying that LoL is better... on a starcraft forum. Most people seem not to care untill they are challenged.


This is really similar to the BW vs SC2 stuff, I almost "NEVER" saw it but people were complaining about it non-stop.

"oh it's the other side coming in to troll us" every single time was the excuse
14fighter
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States226 Posts
March 04 2013 00:03 GMT
#184
On March 03 2013 12:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
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On March 03 2013 12:01 opterown wrote:
the new elephant in the room, low tier lol players switch to sc2 and dominate, etc

oh wait...

haha jokes aside, glad to have them back. nsh or prime would be nice

Tell your boy Gerrard to sign them

EG.CoCa.RC EG.Puzzle.RC :D
ShowTheLights
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Korea (South)1693 Posts
March 04 2013 00:04 GMT
#185
On March 04 2013 09:03 14fighter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 12:02 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On March 03 2013 12:01 opterown wrote:
the new elephant in the room, low tier lol players switch to sc2 and dominate, etc

oh wait...

haha jokes aside, glad to have them back. nsh or prime would be nice

Tell your boy Gerrard to sign them

EG.CoCa.RC EG.Puzzle.RC :D

eeek
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KJDog
Profile Joined February 2012
United States164 Posts
March 04 2013 02:10 GMT
#186
Please be true. Coca was one of the only zergs I liked watching and Puzzle was just a beast.
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
March 04 2013 02:13 GMT
#187
On March 04 2013 11:10 KJDog wrote:
Please be true. Coca was one of the only zergs I liked watching and Puzzle was just a beast.

I know! And they might join Slayers2/Axiom as well! I'm sure playing LoL only helped with their SC2 skills.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 04 2013 02:22 GMT
#188
On March 04 2013 11:13 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 11:10 KJDog wrote:
Please be true. Coca was one of the only zergs I liked watching and Puzzle was just a beast.

I know! And they might join Slayers2/Axiom as well! I'm sure playing LoL only helped with their SC2 skills.


I'm guessing sarcasm?
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GeorgiusRex
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada16 Posts
March 04 2013 02:23 GMT
#189
If it's relevant, Puzzle started using his Twitter again today, for the first time since August.

long time no see guys

SlayerSPuzzle

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MarkCJ
Profile Joined December 2012
Canada239 Posts
March 04 2013 02:29 GMT
#190
On March 04 2013 11:13 tshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 11:10 KJDog wrote:
Please be true. Coca was one of the only zergs I liked watching and Puzzle was just a beast.

I know! And they might join Slayers2/Axiom as well! I'm sure playing LoL only helped with their SC2 skills.


their qwerty reflexes improved
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Solacee
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom19 Posts
March 04 2013 02:32 GMT
#191
Looks at puzzles fb page see eg and thorzain liked EGPuzzle.RC
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
March 04 2013 02:48 GMT
#192
Awwwww yess. Both were awesome, especially Coca, who seemed like a pick to win a GSL months ago. Hope they do return and kick ass.
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jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
March 04 2013 03:34 GMT
#193
On March 04 2013 05:49 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 05:03 Black Gun wrote:
sc2 undeniably dying....

great to see them come back. maybe LoL isnt the holy grail of mediocre wannabe-progamers after all...


A korean lolplayer that was asked about the SC2 players actually elaborated on why none of them are successful.

They have a 1v1 mindset, and because of that have a huge difficulty transitioning to League. No matter how much LoL haters want to say it's an easy game. If it was, you'd see more people able to compete on the pro level.

I always liked Puzzle's ID. He seems like a cool guy.

That was Locodoco.



I think that's the hardest part of switching from SC2 to LoL/Dota: playing in harmony with 4 other people.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
March 04 2013 03:38 GMT
#194
i dunno, egpuzzle sounds so right
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Black Gun
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany4482 Posts
March 04 2013 05:46 GMT
#195
On March 04 2013 12:38 teddyoojo wrote:
i dunno, egpuzzle sounds so right

nah.... but cocaprime sounds awesome. contains twice as much sugar as coke light. ^
"What am I supposed to do against this?" - "Lose!" :-]
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
March 04 2013 06:00 GMT
#196
oh man oh man two of the better code s players... wonder if they will get past the elephants
ZachFreeman
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia484 Posts
March 04 2013 06:10 GMT
#197
On March 04 2013 15:00 ke_ivan wrote:
oh man oh man two of the better code s players... wonder if they will get past the elephants

They wont.
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revoN
Profile Joined February 2010
Japan804 Posts
March 04 2013 11:14 GMT
#198
On March 04 2013 15:00 ke_ivan wrote:
oh man oh man two of the better code s players... wonder if they will get past the elephants

They didn't the last time they were playing SC2 actively and KeSPA players are playing way better now. Puzzle even said that with all the elephants coming into view on the horizon he might quit SC2 altogether (which he did).
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 04 2013 11:55 GMT
#199
On March 04 2013 20:14 revoN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2013 15:00 ke_ivan wrote:
oh man oh man two of the better code s players... wonder if they will get past the elephants

They didn't the last time they were playing SC2 actively and KeSPA players are playing way better now. Puzzle even said that with all the elephants coming into view on the horizon he might quit SC2 altogether (which he did).

give them a few months, with the skills they picked up from lol it is them that will be the new elephants in the room
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
March 04 2013 22:00 GMT
#200
I'm skeptical Coca can regain the form people in this thread seem to think he had. But we'll see, a lot will depend on where he ends up of course.

I'm more interested to see how Puzzle will do with some real Protoss teammates (sorry, Alicia didn't count, cuz he was pretty bad when Puzzle was doing well).

From what I recall, Puzzle had good micro and played about as standard as possible in all match-ups and was terrible at PvP, which to me screams he had no Protoss help.
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