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On March 04 2013 05:03 Black Gun wrote:
sc2 undeniably dying....
great to see them come back. maybe LoL isnt the holy grail of mediocre wannabe-progamers after all...
A korean lolplayer that was asked about the SC2 players actually elaborated on why none of them are successful.
They have a 1v1 mindset, and because of that have a huge difficulty transitioning to League. No matter how much LoL haters want to say it's an easy game. If it was, you'd see more people able to compete on the pro level.
I always liked Puzzle's ID. He seems like a cool guy.
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On March 04 2013 05:49 RagequitBM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 05:03 Black Gun wrote:
sc2 undeniably dying....
great to see them come back. maybe LoL isnt the holy grail of mediocre wannabe-progamers after all... A korean lolplayer that was asked about the SC2 players actually elaborated on why none of them are successful. They have a 1v1 mindset, and because of that have a huge difficulty transitioning to League. No matter how much LoL haters want to say it's an easy game. If it was, you'd see more people able to compete on the pro level. I always liked Puzzle's ID. He seems like a cool guy.
I think that just shows that LoL is harder than SC2 
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We will accept them back with open arms
If they're actually coming back, that is.
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On March 04 2013 05:53 Neurosis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 05:49 RagequitBM wrote:On March 04 2013 05:03 Black Gun wrote:
sc2 undeniably dying....
great to see them come back. maybe LoL isnt the holy grail of mediocre wannabe-progamers after all... A korean lolplayer that was asked about the SC2 players actually elaborated on why none of them are successful. They have a 1v1 mindset, and because of that have a huge difficulty transitioning to League. No matter how much LoL haters want to say it's an easy game. If it was, you'd see more people able to compete on the pro level. I always liked Puzzle's ID. He seems like a cool guy. I think that just shows that LoL is harder than SC2
What? Under no logical reasoning it suggests that. "Player A plays game B with the wrong mindset, therefore game B is harder."
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That has nothing to do with the game, and is solely individually based.
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On March 04 2013 05:49 RagequitBM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 05:03 Black Gun wrote:
sc2 undeniably dying....
great to see them come back. maybe LoL isnt the holy grail of mediocre wannabe-progamers after all... A korean lolplayer that was asked about the SC2 players actually elaborated on why none of them are successful. They have a 1v1 mindset, and because of that have a huge difficulty transitioning to League. No matter how much LoL haters want to say it's an easy game. If it was, you'd see more people able to compete on the pro level. I always liked Puzzle's ID. He seems like a cool guy.
This now gives me the image of puzzle and coca duo queueing at a PC bang raging about elo hell noobs.
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On March 04 2013 05:53 Neurosis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 05:49 RagequitBM wrote:On March 04 2013 05:03 Black Gun wrote:
sc2 undeniably dying....
great to see them come back. maybe LoL isnt the holy grail of mediocre wannabe-progamers after all... A korean lolplayer that was asked about the SC2 players actually elaborated on why none of them are successful. They have a 1v1 mindset, and because of that have a huge difficulty transitioning to League. No matter how much LoL haters want to say it's an easy game. If it was, you'd see more people able to compete on the pro level. I always liked Puzzle's ID. He seems like a cool guy. I think that just shows that LoL is harder than SC2
Whatever helps you sleep at night man.
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On March 04 2013 05:53 Neurosis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 05:49 RagequitBM wrote:On March 04 2013 05:03 Black Gun wrote:
sc2 undeniably dying....
great to see them come back. maybe LoL isnt the holy grail of mediocre wannabe-progamers after all... A korean lolplayer that was asked about the SC2 players actually elaborated on why none of them are successful. They have a 1v1 mindset, and because of that have a huge difficulty transitioning to League. No matter how much LoL haters want to say it's an easy game. If it was, you'd see more people able to compete on the pro level. I always liked Puzzle's ID. He seems like a cool guy. I think that just shows that LoL is harder than SC2
No way, it just requires a different skillset
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Comparing LoL to SC2 is like comparing a sedan to a van. Both have similar functions as vehicles (or as strategy games), but have different functions as a whole. A sedan is utilized for quick and easy travel, often carrying no more than four people (just like StarCraft), but built for a person or a rider. A van on the other hand is almost entirely designed to carry multiple people, not just a single person. So comparing the two is ridiculous in some ways because it becomes another "Apple vs Orange" dilemma that doesn't give an accurate solution.
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On March 04 2013 05:15 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 00:24 DavoS wrote:On March 03 2013 11:56 ffadicted wrote:On March 03 2013 11:51 Tachion wrote:
Coca was one of my favorite zergs. I'd be really happy to see him back. Yup, he was fantastic until that awful awful awful awful awful awful decision by SlayerS/GSL to kick him out of Code S. Would love to have him back It was only cuz CoCa made that awful awful awful awful awful awful decision to fix a televised match IN FRONT OF THE OFFICIALS AND VIEWERS nope
let someone tell the story. It's always good to hear what iteration it's on 
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I figured all of the Korean pros who ‘retried’ from SC2 to try LoL were pretty mediocre, and hadn’t posted any results in the past 12 months, if at all. The one exception to this assumption was always Puzzle in my eyes, would be good to see him back again.
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On March 04 2013 06:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 05:15 opterown wrote:On March 04 2013 00:24 DavoS wrote:On March 03 2013 11:56 ffadicted wrote:On March 03 2013 11:51 Tachion wrote:
Coca was one of my favorite zergs. I'd be really happy to see him back. Yup, he was fantastic until that awful awful awful awful awful awful decision by SlayerS/GSL to kick him out of Code S. Would love to have him back It was only cuz CoCa made that awful awful awful awful awful awful decision to fix a televised match IN FRONT OF THE OFFICIALS AND VIEWERS nope let someone tell the story. It's always good to hear what iteration it's on
I heard coca burnt an orphanage and byun blew up a hospital after the match.
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On March 04 2013 06:23 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 06:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:On March 04 2013 05:15 opterown wrote:On March 04 2013 00:24 DavoS wrote:On March 03 2013 11:56 ffadicted wrote:On March 03 2013 11:51 Tachion wrote:
Coca was one of my favorite zergs. I'd be really happy to see him back. Yup, he was fantastic until that awful awful awful awful awful awful decision by SlayerS/GSL to kick him out of Code S. Would love to have him back It was only cuz CoCa made that awful awful awful awful awful awful decision to fix a televised match IN FRONT OF THE OFFICIALS AND VIEWERS nope let someone tell the story. It's always good to hear what iteration it's on I heard coca burnt an orphanage and byun blew up a hospital after the match.
So that explains why you're such a big byun fan...
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cool stuff man
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I hope they are signed by Prime, Axiom, or NSH as all have really short rosters
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On March 03 2013 23:38 Lysanias wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 23:20 Zealously wrote:On March 03 2013 22:59 CoR wrote:On March 03 2013 19:41 Koerage wrote:
if its true, think STPuzzle and AxCoCa are rather likely - startale will be wanting another toss, and puzzle can be as good as squirtle/parting, and axiom will want anything but another terran to get a stronger lineup (they have enough good terrans for such a small team) a good protoss who retired can be as good as a supergood better then ever protoss active ? ... even with train ... no just no It's not an unreasonable thing to say. Puzzle showed great promise, and he came close to realising his potential a bunch of times. He wouldn't be Parting/Squirtle a week after a comeback, but he definetly could be eventually. And this is coming from someone who is a fan of both. Could, would, should etc that really does not say anything. Consistancy is what you want of a player not a couple of good games. I never seen his play at the lvl of Parting/Squirtle, he was good and with potential no doubt but he has not proven to be on the same level as the other guys. I agree with the guy above, if you retire already in fear of Kespa players your mentality is not in a right place and you never get at the top.
Personally, I was really surprised when Puzzle retired because he was coming off a few bad beats in Code A after a string of Code S appearances. But he definitely wasn't getting worse, which you could tell by him anchoring them in GSTL and scoring several mutli-kills that last season (3 kills against Zenex, NSH and MVP).
On March 04 2013 06:19 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2013 05:15 opterown wrote:On March 04 2013 00:24 DavoS wrote:On March 03 2013 11:56 ffadicted wrote:On March 03 2013 11:51 Tachion wrote:
Coca was one of my favorite zergs. I'd be really happy to see him back. Yup, he was fantastic until that awful awful awful awful awful awful decision by SlayerS/GSL to kick him out of Code S. Would love to have him back It was only cuz CoCa made that awful awful awful awful awful awful decision to fix a televised match IN FRONT OF THE OFFICIALS AND VIEWERS nope let someone tell the story. It's always good to hear what iteration it's on
Well, I'm not going to tell the story, except to say that the Korean netizens were about ready to lynch Coca / Byun if not for the GSL ban. While us foreign viewers didn't see what happened as a big deal (although Artosis certainly carried the GSL hatchet when explaining why Coca forfeit his spot).
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On March 03 2013 11:56 ffadicted wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 11:51 Tachion wrote:
Coca was one of my favorite zergs. I'd be really happy to see him back. Yup, he was fantastic until that awful awful awful awful awful awful decision by SlayerS/GSL to kick him out of Code S. Would love to have him back
Hah! He ripped GSTL apart in 2012!
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On March 03 2013 11:56 ffadicted wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 11:51 Tachion wrote:
Coca was one of my favorite zergs. I'd be really happy to see him back. Yup, he was fantastic until that awful awful awful awful awful awful decision by SlayerS/GSL to kick him out of Code S. Would love to have him back
How is being punished for match fixing when that almost killed brood war (twice now) an awful decision?
Well if they want to get back into starcraft now is a good point in time given hots is around the corner, I don't care much though given they were willing to switch to lol they may as well play world of tanks next for all I care.
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On March 04 2013 06:48 Aunvilgod wrote:Show nested quote +On March 03 2013 11:56 ffadicted wrote:On March 03 2013 11:51 Tachion wrote:
Coca was one of my favorite zergs. I'd be really happy to see him back. Yup, he was fantastic until that awful awful awful awful awful awful decision by SlayerS/GSL to kick him out of Code S. Would love to have him back Hah! He ripped GSTL apart in 2012!
Thats why they need to reunite with axiom! Puzzle could literally be counted on to get 3 kills every match, and Coca killed sooooo many people in the gstl. If they add in Ryung who has continually improved and a returned ace in MMA, they could take it all.
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On March 04 2013 06:19 PhoenixVoid wrote:
Comparing LoL to SC2 is like comparing a sedan to a van. Both have similar functions as vehicles (or as strategy games), but have different functions as a whole. A sedan is utilized for quick and easy travel, often carrying no more than four people (just like StarCraft), but built for a person or a rider. A van on the other hand is almost entirely designed to carry multiple people, not just a single person. So comparing the two is ridiculous in some ways because it becomes another "Apple vs Orange" dilemma that doesn't give an accurate solution.
The funny thing is that LoL players "never" discuss SC2 unless it's brought up by SC2 players. They just don't care at all, they don't care about how insecure SC2 players are about their game not breaking new viewership records every tournament, they don't care about some race completely dominating every single tournament, they don't care about some stupid strategy being used over and over, they don't care about anything sc2 related and they 200% do not care what a bunch of elitist think about their game being easier to pick up.
LoL discussions are about how much they enjoy the game or how to deal with certain things like "x hero vs y hero" or "should I get this item?" or about how exciting the current game they're watching is. Don't know why people have to hate on something that is actually going to keep a dying industry alive within the next few years so we can actually have sc2 tournaments, because sc2 is not doing nearly as much for esports as LoL is, not even close at all.
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On March 03 2013 12:01 opterown wrote:
the new elephant in the room, low tier lol players switch to sc2 and dominate, etc
oh wait...
haha jokes aside, glad to have them back. nsh or prime would be nice
Oh god I love these elephant in the room jokes.
Agreed that prime would be nice.
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