EPT1. Leave league is a way to possibily force a promotion or demotion during ladder locks.
2. Bonus pool going down for loses might mean its easier for a boosted player to stay in gm even if they can't win games at all.
2.0.4 FAQ: Unranked, Bonus Pool, Leave League - Page 6
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
1. Leave league is a way to possibily force a promotion or demotion during ladder locks. 2. Bonus pool going down for loses might mean its easier for a boosted player to stay in gm even if they can't win games at all. | ||
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Kambing
United States1176 Posts
On March 23 2013 00:15 Excalibur_Z wrote: As long as they have bonus pool remaining that is (so someone with bonus pool 12 who was going to lose 12 points would have that game listed as "Loss", whereas someone with no bonus pool who was going to lose 12 points would have it listed as "Loss (-12)"). The rest is completely accurate. Ah yes. Good call! | ||
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GaNgStaRR.ElV
Canada535 Posts
Just play your game and stop making excuses about why you can't climb the ladder. | ||
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Kambing
United States1176 Posts
On March 23 2013 00:19 Zelniq wrote: how many bonus pool points must be acquired to drop out of GM now? is it the same as before, meaning half the time it takes to get booted, or was it raised proportionally? also reading that unranked and ranked can match together kind of blew my mind Nothing's been confirmed yet by Blizzard. We likely won't know until the first GMs of the season start rolling over. On March 23 2013 00:25 vaderseven wrote: 2. Bonus pool going down for loses might mean its easier for a boosted player to stay in gm even if they can't win games at all. It should actually be trivial for a boosted person to stay in GM. They just need to play the requisite number of games to keep their bonus pool low. Because you spend bonus pool when you lose, I wouldn't be surprised if the GM point threshold is the same under the pretense that you also dump your bonus pool via losses as well. | ||
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porkRaven
United States953 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
On March 23 2013 00:19 Zelniq wrote: how many bonus pool points must be acquired to drop out of GM now? is it the same as before, meaning half the time it takes to get booted, or was it raised proportionally? also reading that unranked and ranked can match together kind of blew my mind My guess is it's 360 now but we haven't heard anything. I think we'll just have to find out as the season goes on. | ||
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yokohama
United States1116 Posts
Am I misunderstanding what you've stated in this portion of your thread, or do we have conflicting experiences? | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
On March 27 2013 00:26 yokohama wrote: Is there proof on the ranked and unranked MMR being tied to each other until your first game in the opposite game type? For example, I have been facing Masters players consistently in unranked, but I just played 2 of my ranked placements and they were both against Bronze players - one who was currently unranked but had a past history of Bronze, and one who was currently a Bronze player this season. Am I misunderstanding what you've stated in this portion of your thread, or do we have conflicting experiences? The "proof" was stuff like this: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5967616755#8 However, I use "proof" in quotations because I don't believe there have been any Blizzard posts on the matter since Heart of the Swarm launched. I know that was the plan and they didn't expect to change it, but they also said they'd keep an eye on it (as they always do). | ||
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KumihO.
United States55 Posts
On March 27 2013 00:47 Excalibur_Z wrote: The "proof" was stuff like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ffLwJuj8ZbI#t=238s http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5967616755#8 However, I use "proof" in quotations because I don't believe there have been any Blizzard posts on the matter since Heart of the Swarm launched. I know that was the plan and they didn't expect to change it, but they also said they'd keep an eye on it (as they always do). I know what that says, but im a High master player and I'm facing gold and plat in unranked. Thats the kind of stuff I dont understand | ||
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mythandier
United States828 Posts
On March 01 2013 17:58 Excalibur_Z wrote: Favored System In the pre-game screen, the "Favored" indicator has disappeared. Q: How do I know how many points the match is worth for me now that the indicator's gone? A: Now you can't. Instead, you can only see the opponent's portrait border signifying 1v1 league, but of course that doesn't necessarily tell you about his current MMR. That Gold-bordered opponent could be on his way up to your Platinum division, or maybe he's on a losing streak and hasn't been demoted to Bronze yet. On the plus side, now that bug with the pre-game and score screen Favored indicators not matching up is finally fixed! Note that the way points are determined is still unchanged: your current adjusted points compared to the opponent's MMR, and his adjusted points compared to your MMR. Also, because Unranked players can be matched against Ranked players, he may have a Platinum Unranked MMR but a Master-bordered portrait. I don't know if this has been covered in this thread so forgive me if it has... You can still see "Favored/Unfavored" after a match by hovering your mouse cursor over the +/- points in the top right of the score screen...after a second or so a tooltip will pop up and let you know if you were favored/unfavored...etc. Cheers. | ||
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Shade_FR
France378 Posts
I am a high level master on EU (1350 points, ~ top 400) and I wanted to have fun today playing offrace in lower league. So I started to leave unranked games. I left 18 games right now, and I noticed something : ALL MY OPPONENTS WERE PLAYING UNRANKED TOO! did they change something in the player pool ? Ranked vs Ranked only and Unranked vs Unranked only ? The first 2-3 unranked games I played I had gold opponents, so it doesn't seem to get my Ranked MMR to find Unranked game, I only play against unranked opponents, no matter what their leagues are. Did Blizzard changed how it works ? Can someone confirms ? I will try to keep leaving game to see if my MMR changes, but I doubt it now. | ||
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SoniC_eu
Denmark1008 Posts
 I aint gonna press it...i think | ||
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Shade_FR
France378 Posts
@ SoniC_eu : it should be called "Leave Division" because your MMR stays the same. I tried it. I don't know if it's a bug or not, but I had to do 5 placements matches after "leaving league", I kept meeting opponents of my skill level. There's a bug currently with the achievement/XP server, could it affects unranked MMR maybe ? | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
On April 13 2013 22:57 SoniC_eu wrote: Does anyone ahve the final word on "Leave League" button? Lolled at the part which said "shiny scary button" hehe I aint gonna press it...i thinkI've done it twice to see how it worked. Both times it made play 5 placement matches. It feels like you get your mmr reset and tested again, because I played like 2 masters sliver, and 2 plats. | ||
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DusTerr
2520 Posts
On April 13 2013 23:26 HeeroFX wrote: I've done it twice to see how it worked. Both times it made play 5 placement matches. It feels like you get your mmr reset and tested again, because I played like 2 masters sliver, and 2 plats. In my experience the amount of placement matches you had to play is equal to the number you had to play at the start of the current season. On an account that only had 1 placement match at start (last season of wol) I had to replay 1 placement match to get a new division. On an account that had 5 placement matches I had to play all 5 placement matches after leaving. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
On April 13 2013 22:54 Shade_FR wrote: Hi, Excalibur_Z, I once again read this thread. I think something is wrong, or Blizzard changed something. I am a high level master on EU (1350 points, ~ top 400) and I wanted to have fun today playing offrace in lower league. So I started to leave unranked games. I left 18 games right now, and I noticed something : ALL MY OPPONENTS WERE PLAYING UNRANKED TOO! did they change something in the player pool ? Ranked vs Ranked only and Unranked vs Unranked only ? The first 2-3 unranked games I played I had gold opponents, so it doesn't seem to get my Ranked MMR to find Unranked game, I only play against unranked opponents, no matter what their leagues are. Did Blizzard changed how it works ? Can someone confirms ? I will try to keep leaving game to see if my MMR changes, but I doubt it now. It's very difficult to say. I don't have a contact anymore and until I get one, I won't have any official answers. Blizzard's also not volunteering this information on their blogs. | ||
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Shade_FR
France378 Posts
On April 14 2013 00:34 Excalibur_Z wrote: It's very difficult to say. I don't have a contact anymore and until I get one, I won't have any official answers. Blizzard's also not volunteering this information on their blogs. Oh ok, thanks for the quick-reply anyway. I guess we'll have to do more reverse-engineering to figure it out. | ||
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Shade_FR
France378 Posts
- When I play Unranked and my opponents are playing a Ranked Game (they won points for the game I left), they have a low MMR (arround silver currently) - When I play Unranked and my opponents are playing an Unranked Game too (they didn't win points for the game I left), they have my ranked MMR ! (High Master / GM) This trend is confirmed and I think the ladder is seriously bugged and not working as intended right now. I MP-ed some Blizz community managers about this, I was very confused and confusing because of this, but now there is a confirmed trend. I hope they will fix this. | ||
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sick_transit
United States195 Posts
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