EPTIt features NaDa, Flash and JD talking about the new user interface.
English subtitle needed!
On March 01 2013 11:34 juki wrote:
English subtitled version
English subtitled version
Thanks Juki.
NaDa, Flash and JD promotion video of the new UI
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Maxilicious
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It features NaDa, Flash and JD talking about the new user interface. English subtitle needed! Thanks Juki. | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Mahanaim
Korea (South)1002 Posts
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37024 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:06 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Nada? Does he still carry Starcraft clout in terms of people listening to his opinions on SC2 products? He hasn't played in a while right? He's still involved in the world of eSports though. As AZUBU manager, I'm sure people still want to know NaDa's opinions and insights. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:06 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Nada? Does he still carry Starcraft clout in terms of people listening to his opinions on SC2 products? He hasn't played in a while right? Nada will carry clout 10+ years after his retirement bud. To even ask that, just...  | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1598 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:06 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Nada? Does he still carry Starcraft clout in terms of people listening to his opinions on SC2 products? He hasn't played in a while right? SC2 didn't have massive play time in KR, so my guess is they want the pros who were on TV to bring in KR customers. This isn't about if he is a good pro currently, but the fame he once had, which is why Blizzard paid him a fuck ton for this  . Good move to get the idols of SCBW to endorse an inferior product...User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Skiblet
South Africa206 Posts
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Maxilicious
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
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lichter
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:06 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Nada? Does he still carry Starcraft clout in terms of people listening to his opinions on SC2 products? He hasn't played in a while right? Nada will always be one of the most successful players ever, I doubt his clout will EVER disappear. | ||
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mrRoflpwn
United States2618 Posts
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Aunvilgod
2653 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:21 Fionn wrote: What, they couldn't dig up Bisu for this? Maaaybe because of his lack of success recently? But still seems weird, yeah. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:23 Aunvilgod wrote: Maaaybe because of his lack of success recently? But still seems weird, yeah. Bisu's main purpose these days is to be dug up for show matches and silly promotional stuff like this. | ||
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Daswollvieh
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Serimek
France2274 Posts
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Gonzo103
Germany220 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:12 NoobSkills wrote: SC2 didn't have massive play time in KR, so my guess is they want the pros who were on TV to bring in KR customers. This isn't about if he is a good pro currently, but the fame he once had, which is why Blizzard paid him a fuck ton for this . Good move to get the idols of SCBW to endorse an inferior product...You couldn't resist to make that last comment, now could you? | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:26 Serimek wrote: Who's the most marketable between JD and Flash in Korea ? It used to be Jaedong during his whole career. Now that he is on EG and he is really bad, I don't know. It is noteworthy that among the TBLS, Flash often had a little bit less fans than the other three, even when he was dominating. | ||
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
 Also leveling up and exploding units on very high must be an important issue for jaedong. We need a translation, at least a rough one  | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1598 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:31 nimdil wrote: You couldn't resist to make that last comment, now could you? I almost hit backspace, but then I realized I would be only deleting the truth... On February 28 2013 18:32 Elroi wrote: It used to be Jaedong during his whole career. Now that he is on EG and he is really bad, I don't know. It is noteworthy that among the TBLS, Flash often had a little bit less fans than the other three, even when he was dominating. Based off of what? Posts on TL were highly in favor of Flash. Now, if you're talking about how popular he is in Korea, then I have no clue. Maybe go back and watch some of those FvJD finals we could see from the audience though. | ||
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SpeaKEaSY
United States1070 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:38 NoobSkills wrote: I almost hit backspace, but then I realized I would be only deleting the truth... Based off of what? Posts on TL were highly in favor of Flash. Now, if you're talking about how popular he is in Korea, then I have no clue. Maybe go back and watch some of those FvJD finals we could see from the audience though. Frequent polls here on TL and before the KeSPA yearly awards thingy. But don't get me wrong, he has legions of fans though, just not as much as you would have expected given how much he dominated imo and compared to the other top players. (I agree with you on the inferior product part btw.) | ||
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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NoobSkills
United States1598 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:43 Elroi wrote: Frequent polls here on TL and before the KeSPA yearly awards thingy. But don't get me wrong, he has legions of fans though, just not as much as you would have expected given how much he dominated imo and compared to the other top players. (I agree with you on the inferior product part btw.) Oh, ok. I never watched the awards, and just can't really remember anything about OSL/MSL audiences other than there were a ton of KR cheering. Nah I mean in the end they both have relative fan bases it really wouldn't matter who had more to them. Both dominating figures in late meta game starcraft. Interesting though that JD more popular in KR and Flash probably more popular foreign. Maybe there is something in personality you can't really determine without knowing language/culture. (there are people who disagree with us?????!!!!???!!!) lol Edit: Oh shit polls here must mean foreign fans are the ones voting! hmm very interesting. Polls taken pre or post sc2? Cuz many zerg fanboys nowadays. | ||
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:32 Elroi wrote: It used to be Jaedong during his whole career. Now that he is on EG and he is really bad, I don't know. It is noteworthy that among the TBLS, Flash often had a little bit less fans than the other three, even when he was dominating. Jeadong is far from being "really bad" but that's the internet opinions for ya. And i think him being on EG makes him even more populair. Fans of his Broodwar career will mostly keep rooting for him no matter what team he joins + now he get's EG fans added to that atleast + more exposure. OT: Cute though way over the top, that does make it look rather funny. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12022 Posts
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:12 EvilTeletubby wrote: Nada will carry clout 10+ years after his retirement bud. To even ask that, just... I just wanted to make sure Blizzard was not objectifying Nada's body to move product. I meant no disrespect | ||
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
On February 28 2013 19:12 Qikz wrote: I don't know if it was the lighting or I'm just missing a joke, but did anyone else feel that Flash and Jaedong didn't look like they normally do? Flash looks weirdly different o_O Its the makeup ^^ | ||
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ChEDo
Canada310 Posts
Good to see big names doing promotions like this though XD | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:06 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Nada? Does he still carry Starcraft clout in terms of people listening to his opinions on SC2 products? He hasn't played in a while right? He is the best player of Brood war IN TERMS OF CAREER. | ||
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wptlzkwjd
Canada1240 Posts
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Proof.
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Also do many people use youtube in Korea? I know Naver dominates in terms of search engines there so I would imagine they also have their own popular youtube-clone. | ||
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Locke-
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ChoDing
United States740 Posts
lol so sad that blizzard has to use these BROOD WAR legends to get their sales going but hope Hots gets some popularity in korea | ||
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Kouda
United States2205 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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ES.Genie
Germany1370 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:12 NoobSkills wrote: SC2 didn't have massive play time in KR, so my guess is they want the pros who were on TV to bring in KR customers. This isn't about if he is a good pro currently, but the fame he once had, which is why Blizzard paid him a fuck ton for this . Good move to get the idols of SCBW to endorse an inferior product...Yeah, this line was so useful and we absolutely needed that. Thanks. | ||
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achan1058
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On February 28 2013 19:25 Proof. wrote: Flash giving thumbs up/promoting to the AI "teacher" (the one that tells you what to build) made me chuckle. Wait, seriously? Reddit has it that the AI sucks at performing the 4 gate and can't even do an immortal sentry all-in (as in it was never coded in at all, not in that it sucks at doing it). Now I got to watch this. | ||
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blackone
Germany1314 Posts
On February 28 2013 19:57 Kouda wrote: Holy shit people still circlejerk over BW? lol. Grow up please. People do everything to feel superior on the internet. It's basically a miracle that people aren't still proclaiming the superiority of the HD-DVD. | ||
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J1.au
Australia3596 Posts
On February 28 2013 19:21 mongmong wrote: He is the best player of Brood war IN TERMS OF CAREER. Nope. | ||
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TT1
Canada10009 Posts
On February 28 2013 19:21 mongmong wrote: He is the best player of Brood war IN TERMS OF CAREER. after flash and jd : D | ||
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nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
On February 28 2013 19:21 mongmong wrote: He is the best player of Brood war IN TERMS OF CAREER. There is NaDa carreer and there is Flash's career. How can you tell whose career was superior? Flash achieved Bonjwahood whene Brood War was at its peak. It's really hard to compare - like Roger Federer versus Rod Laver in tennis careers. | ||
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:56 Lysanias wrote: Jeadong is far from being "really bad" but that's the internet opinions for ya. And i think him being on EG makes him even more populair. Fans of his Broodwar career will mostly keep rooting for him no matter what team he joins + now he get's EG fans added to that atleast + more exposure. OT: Cute though way over the top, that does make it look rather funny. I love Jaedong, he is one of my most important role models. I think I have seen more or less every televised game he has ever played. But what he does now is just... bad. Really, really bad. His gaming in SC2 thus far doesn't come close to the talent he showed when he was new to brood war. I think that the foreign audience he will get by joining EG is nothing compared to the korean fans he had when he played on national television for Lecaf/ Hwaseung OZ. | ||
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imEnex
Canada500 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On February 28 2013 19:21 mongmong wrote: He is the best player of Brood war IN TERMS OF CAREER. How so? Flash is equal in titles (more if you count his Gom win), has more wins in less time played and a significantly higher win percentage. | ||
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Gravesong
United States96 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:20 lichter wrote: I like Jaedong's shoes. I was just thinking that haha. | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
Pretty great video though. It is pretty funny/weird to see the three be so enthusiastic. Decent acting. haha >_< | ||
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ETisME
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MadJack
Peru357 Posts
EDIT: i mean cute stuff and overreacting, thats not something for a true champion to be doing. | ||
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yOngKIN
Korea (North)656 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3748 Posts
On February 28 2013 21:56 GolemMadness wrote: How so? Flash is equal in titles (more if you count his Gom win), has more wins in less time played and a significantly higher win percentage. Flash won WCG while NaDa did not. On the other hand NaDa had more 2nd places than Flash (4 compare to 2) . On the other hand again NaDa was able to seize 3 MLSs within few months and had whole career to focus on Brood War while Flash had to switch to SC2 pretty much during his peak. I don't think it's fair to count GOM leagues - after all NaDa won a number of different tournaments. | ||
Zealously
East Gorteau22261 Posts
On February 28 2013 19:47 ChoDing wrote: so pretentious cuz i can understand korean :D lol so sad that blizzard has to use these BROOD WAR legends to get their sales going but hope Hots gets some popularity in korea Three Brood War legends who all three played Starcraft II, Blizzard's game, at some point? And are really popular amongst the Korean netizens, and amongst foreigners; making this move quite intelligent? Yes, very sad. | ||
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LighT.
Canada4501 Posts
What is it you like most about HoTS? Bisu: a new start ;_;...... Ryung: a new beginning with my Azubu team after being honored to play alongside Boxer in Slayers. Boxer: Who are you again? Ryung: ... Do you enjoy the balance of the game as it is now for HoTS? Idra: **** off | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10126 Posts
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sc2pal
Poland624 Posts
On February 28 2013 23:46 LighT. wrote: Predicted answers...(felt like acting like an idiot) What is it you like most about HoTS? Bisu: a new start ;_;...... Ryung: a new beginning with my Azubu team after being honored to play alongside Boxer in Slayers. Boxer: Who are you again? Ryung: ... Do you enjoy the balance of the game as it is now for HoTS? Idra: **** off hahahahahaha | ||
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crbox
Canada1180 Posts
On February 28 2013 19:57 Kouda wrote: Holy shit people still circlejerk over BW? lol. Grow up please. This. There's nothing sad about using those legends to promote HotS... Yes they are where they are now because of their success in BW, but now they have a huge fanbase, that doesn't even follow BW anymore (and probably most of them don't follow Star2). Blizzard is aiming at that fanbase, which is a good move. Nothing sad about that, it's just a good marketing move. | ||
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TiTanIum_
Brazil1335 Posts
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Maxilicious
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English subtitle! Please! | ||
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TiTanIum_
Brazil1335 Posts
On February 28 2013 22:37 purakushi wrote: Good to see more things like this in hopes of more SC2 promotion in Korea, but sadly it will not fix anything if the game itself is broken. SC2 in itself just does not cater to what Koreans want/are used to. Pretty great video though. It is pretty funny/weird to see the three be so enthusiastic. Decent acting. haha >_< Well, with all your insight on the Korean market, you should make a ton of money there. I wonder why game companies are not fighting over your skills and knowledge. | ||
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Kommatiazo
United States579 Posts
I am hoping when we get an English translation that we find out they made an "unimpressed Flash is really impressed" joke about the new UI | ||
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Opera
France469 Posts
On February 28 2013 20:06 blackone wrote: People do everything to feel superior on the internet. It's basically a miracle that people aren't still proclaiming the superiority of the HD-DVD. Quoted for truth. Nice commercial, I wish I understood anything they said. | ||
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TheSwamp
United States1497 Posts
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On February 28 2013 20:05 ES.Genie wrote: Yeah, this line was so useful and we absolutely needed that. Thanks. Yeah it was a pretty good post up until that point... *shrugs* been useful for me to know to skip over them in the future Awesome video, I had a good laugh at it. Jaedong's facepalm was pretty good, I hope there is a gif eventually and Flash's thumbs up... hahaha. Seems legit! | ||
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Nerski
United States1095 Posts
On February 28 2013 22:37 purakushi wrote: Good to see more things like this in hopes of more SC2 promotion in Korea, but sadly it will not fix anything if the game itself is broken. SC2 in itself just does not cater to what Koreans want/are used to. Pretty great video though. It is pretty funny/weird to see the three be so enthusiastic. Decent acting. haha >_< The game itself has a lot less to do with SC2's popularity vs the ways you can get a hold of it. The 'Asian' (generalizing) markets typically lend themselves to anything that is easily pirated or free to play. A part of BW's success in Korea was the relative ease people could get free copies of the game and play it. As far as the video goes it would be nice to see a translated version even if there isn't much information there that you couldn't already see in the starcraft youtube channel previews. | ||
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On March 01 2013 00:17 TiTanIum_ wrote: Well, with all your insight on the Korean market, you should make a ton of money there. I wonder why game companies are not fighting over your skills and knowledge. its yust commen sense lol, besides even thou they are marketing for it doesn't mean it is designed for it. | ||
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purakushi
United States3300 Posts
On March 01 2013 00:17 TiTanIum_ wrote: Well, with all your insight on the Korean market, you should make a ton of money there. I wonder why game companies are not fighting over your skills and knowledge. I was actually just stating something very obvious and general... I mean this in a neutral way but if SC2 is not popular in Korea, it has very little to do with exposure, since everyone should already know about it due to the huge success of BW. There are many reasons why SC2 is not that popular in Korea, just as why there are many reasons why SC2 is more popular in the foreign community. That was really all I was stating. If you want my actual thoughts on the matter (which you probably don't but I'll just put it here to complete this post), I very much see an analogy between Starcraft and baseball. SC2 is like American baseball with its flashy "terrible, terrible damage" (homeruns), while BW is like Japanese/Asian baseball with smaller fights and minute mechanics (smallball). It can sort of be likened to DotA playstyles (Foreign versus Chinese), as well. In the end, it is just different. And the fact that more money can be made in the foreign market. | ||
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Mortal
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On February 28 2013 18:25 Fionn wrote: Bisu's main purpose these days is to be dug up for show matches and silly promotional stuff like this. It hurts because it's true | ||
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lazyitachi
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+ Show Spoiler + + Show Spoiler + Sorry. J/K. This is the youtube translation.. Enjoy JD: Next. Doctors of the students stated. Nada: Way. Flash: Euroseodo! JD: Strategy of tomorrow 960707 specifies the arc Lotte while keeping some Bush Ambiguity and breathing space to play games 970110 Flash: 970110 Build a line of Came back to the fire department Now Banks and securities firms No such burden gl/ec How you stood/ but increased Nada: Talented to the Sole leader in The meantime, a good Video Tour Rain costly And get it right Way to start is scheduled to fit the character. 5 Should he Also facing a diagnosis Run support Prayed that the diagnosis was. JD: wr No. Hugo intellectual Near 1.44% 5 So I met a friend Will vary (JD laughs) Flash: Subject to grilling Crowded Railroad accidents Changes. Another continue to pressure My side 32 road (Flash thumbs up) Announcer: Olympic-related Flash: Farewell to the American Association Chairman of AP is not even enough for the outbreak Announcer: Be known not Flash: Tokyo combines special purpose products Symbol Plaza JD: osen Huang Republic of journalists (JD pinches nose bridge) I go watch now outside th health status for the regular season ATTACK CHANGES Announcer: Family for me JD: Sat school seems to do it better. Surprise! (JD laughs) (Dramatic fade out) | ||
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letian
Germany4221 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:25 Fionn wrote: Bisu's main purpose these days is to be dug up for show matches and silly promotional stuff like this. Bisu is not wanted even for this silly stuff anymore... | ||
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DidYuhim
Ukraine1905 Posts
Okay, we need actual translation of this video, not google translate. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 28 2013 20:05 ES.Genie wrote: Yeah, this line was so useful and we absolutely needed that. Thanks. Yeah, well we could expect no less from Noobskill. He loves to point out that SC2 is "inferior" and make crap up about Blizzard dumping money in their direction(Im sure somone got paid, but massive cash is unlikely). Its all part of the endless downer that BW fans on TL bring to SC2. Best thing that happened to SC2: TL and the its starcraft . Worst thing that happened to SC2: TL and its BW fans. | ||
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WikidSik
Canada382 Posts
it looks sooo fake | ||
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United States142 Posts
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
i wonder how many cuts and takes, traning they had to go through maybe i'm wrong but i've never seen them so....like this in their interviews | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
On March 01 2013 04:02 jinorazi wrote: hahahahaha they tried sooo hard (to look enthusiastic, acting to tv advertisement standard) i wonder how many cuts and takes, traning they had to go through maybe i'm wrong but i've never seen them so....like this in their interviews Yes, they have to act excited | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
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Elroi
Sweden5595 Posts
On March 01 2013 02:32 Plansix wrote: Its all part of the endless downer that BW fans on TL bring to SC2. Best thing that happened to SC2: TL and the its starcraft . Worst thing that happened to SC2: TL and its BW fans. Well, to be honest, you could turn that argument around: when it comes to gaming, you guys and SC2 are the worst things that has ever happened to us. I don't want to talk about that a lot because it's not constructive, but it is nevertheless true and if you kept that in mind, you would maybe have more patience with guys like Noobskill. | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:06 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Nada? Does he still carry Starcraft clout in terms of people listening to his opinions on SC2 products? He hasn't played in a while right? He'll always carry clout in my heart. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On March 01 2013 07:14 Elroi wrote: Well, to be honest, you could turn that argument around: when it comes to gaming, you guys and SC2 are the worst things that has ever happened to us. I don't want to talk about that a lot because it's not constructive, but it is nevertheless true and if you kept that in mind, you would maybe have more patience with guys like Noobskill. Next thing you gonne say that people who bought SC2 killed BW... | ||
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Lunareste
United States3596 Posts
On March 01 2013 07:14 Elroi wrote: Well, to be honest, you could turn that argument around: when it comes to gaming, you guys and SC2 are the worst things that has ever happened to us. I don't want to talk about that a lot because it's not constructive, but it is nevertheless true and if you kept that in mind, you would maybe have more patience with guys like Noobskill. Doesn't mean that he shouldn't be temp banned for being a douchebag. Go join the BW forum circlejerk if your life is so sad that you have nothing better to do than try and shit on a game you don't even like. And stay there. | ||
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EpicDemente
Chile202 Posts
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NoobSkills
United States1598 Posts
On March 01 2013 07:31 Lunareste wrote: Doesn't mean that he shouldn't be temp banned for being a douchebag. Go join the BW forum circlejerk if your life is so sad that you have nothing better to do than try and shit on a game you don't even like. And stay there. You think I'm totally 100% against SC2. I play the game almost every day. I have bought every season of the GSL. I'm not shitting on the game because as far as my opinion goes it is the 2nd best RTS of all time which with how many RTS are out there means it is pretty damn good. 3/4 AOE/WC3. My point isn't to "shit" on SC2, buy to "shit" on Blizzard. They never planned on making a great interesting game from day one, but instead planned on WoL + 2 expansions. Maybe the game will be complete in LoTV, but I think that originally making a really solid game would have been better than paying BW pros to claim that their most recent expansion is awesome. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On March 01 2013 07:41 NoobSkills wrote: You think I'm totally 100% against SC2. I play the game almost every day. I have bought every season of the GSL. I'm not shitting on the game because as far as my opinion goes it is the 2nd best RTS of all time which with how many RTS are out there means it is pretty damn good. 3/4 AOE/WC3. My point isn't to "shit" on SC2, buy to "shit" on Blizzard. They never planned on making a great interesting game from day one, but instead planned on WoL + 2 expansions. Maybe the game will be complete in LoTV, but I think that originally making a really solid game would have been better than paying BW pros to claim that their most recent expansion is awesome. The thing is, there was no reason what so ever to mention it like that. What you did was exactly "shit"on SC2. | ||
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
On March 01 2013 07:43 Assirra wrote: The thing is, there was no reason what so ever to mention it like that. What you did was exactly "shit"on SC2. ^ bingo. The fact that someone mentioned it wasn't necessary and you'd stated "I was going to delete it, but then I thought I'd only be deleting the truth" or something similar should have been the *ding ding ding* to not say it | ||
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13JackaL
United States577 Posts
On March 01 2013 07:41 NoobSkills wrote: You think I'm totally 100% against SC2. I play the game almost every day. I have bought every season of the GSL. I'm not shitting on the game because as far as my opinion goes it is the 2nd best RTS of all time which with how many RTS are out there means it is pretty damn good. 3/4 AOE/WC3. My point isn't to "shit" on SC2, buy to "shit" on Blizzard. They never planned on making a great interesting game from day one, but instead planned on WoL + 2 expansions. Maybe the game will be complete in LoTV, but I think that originally making a really solid game would have been better than paying BW pros to claim that their most recent expansion is awesome. I don't see why derailing this thread is necessary to get your view across. need a translation...not the youtube one lol | ||
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Nightsz
Canada398 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10673 Posts
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Aunvilgod
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Scrutinizer
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Older gamers are the ones who played and experienced both games and pro-scenes, and you know, maybe they are not getting paid to say so and it perhaps is the truth? I cant even imagine how hard it must be for BW pros (somewhat forced) to switch to a completely new and different game after years of crazy investment, especially for those like JD and Flash here... It outright killed the careers of high caliber players like Sea. | ||
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Von
United States363 Posts
On March 01 2013 07:14 Elroi wrote: Well, to be honest, you could turn that argument around: when it comes to gaming, you guys and SC2 are the worst things that has ever happened to us. I don't want to talk about that a lot because it's not constructive, but it is nevertheless true and if you kept that in mind, you would maybe have more patience with guys like Noobskill. Soooo ... Are you guys on the BW side and the guys from the SC2 side ever going to fight? C'mon: man up, get in the ring and throw down. We'll get a pool going, promote the shit out of it, grab some popcorn and beer and watch all you idiots beat each other to a pulp over video game dick size. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On March 01 2013 08:20 Aunvilgod wrote: To all those people criticizing the "Brood war elitists": In a couple of years Blizzard will probably release Starcraft III and we will be in their spot with Blizzard/KeSPA/whoever killing Starcraft II in favor of its successor. Think about that before you get all mad. I never watched BW and I never will but I understand how pissed off BW fans had been when BW died. I understand they are angry and they have every right to be, but does it have to be in the sc2 forum? This is like a grandpa going to a disco and constantly whining about the music in his days was way better. He got every right to say it, but does he need to say it against people that enjoy the current music? Hell no, he only annoys everyone. | ||
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United States1632 Posts
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
metagame this, metagame that, cheese this, cheese that. why can't we/i just play the game one way or the other, however i want to play it, unorthodox or not without being told that i'm playing the game wrong? | ||
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Vundox
United States182 Posts
anyways, this was so cheesy and fantastic haha | ||
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Lunareste
United States3596 Posts
On March 01 2013 09:27 jinorazi wrote: sc2 players brought the cheese whine to the max...its so annoying. metagame this, metagame that, cheese this, cheese that. why can't we/i just play the game one way or the other, however i want to play it, unorthodox or not without being told that i'm playing the game wrong? You're not playing the game wrong...it just pisses me off when I lose to it, that's all. | ||
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NoobSkills
United States1598 Posts
On March 01 2013 07:55 liberate71 wrote: ^ bingo. The fact that someone mentioned it wasn't necessary and you'd stated "I was going to delete it, but then I thought I'd only be deleting the truth" or something similar should have been the *ding ding ding* to not say it You still think it is on SC2. Though yes, it was a trollish remark which is why I almost deleted it and probably should have seeing how butthurt people are. I'm not saying SC2 is bad, but they had BW to build off of and choose not to. They could have made a better game, but this one is now getting really good especially with GSL. But even with the GSL getting better now we throw in a new expansion (because Blizzard didn't want to make a complete game the first time) and the general pro play will revert (a bit not fully). Though I do see much potential with this new game in making pro matches in a very short time be much better than WOL GSL. I just think it should have been even still better than this to start with, because they had such a good base. That being said I don't want to derail the thread any further. I think the commercial does seem kinda cheesey no? I watch JD stream from time to time and when you used to see Flash it was all serious business, but the production changed their personalities to make it seem like SC2 brings eternal happiness or something. Just seems funny to me. I think they could have gone with a more look at these badasses playing SC2, you can be a badass too model and the commercial would have seemed more normal in regards to the players who are promoting the product. | ||
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juki
68 Posts
http://youtu.be/fRVHwOUwTCU | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
Thanks for posting the subbed version btw | ||
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negativedge
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
It shows Jaedong, Flash, and Nada know how to do commercials, which is very important for marketing. (Remember Inside The Game's talk on how Koreans aren't very marketable? Stuff like this helps Koreans be more marketable, of course too bad the video was done without subs and for Korea mainly and not anywhere else. .)Well this is a good way to do it (though IMO, they should also do an official subbed version for English viewers too). | ||
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RagequitBM
Canada2270 Posts
On March 01 2013 11:41 Rostam wrote: So, apparently Jaedong practices with random people he meets using the "find nearby players" thing and also likes to play team games with AIs. Seems legit. Thanks for posting the subbed version btw Well he's in a teamhouse. So I would assume most of the nearby players HotS finds are other people in the house. | ||
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Parcelleus
Australia1662 Posts
I love Flash's initial reaction " So many changes " (are you fucking kidding me look on his face). I know what you mean Flash xD | ||
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Champi
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IntoTheEmo
Singapore1169 Posts
Marketing? Logical I guess. Doesn't make it any less cringe-worthy. Dear god. + Show Spoiler + ... must remember... the aura of badass-ery... I also wonder if Blizzard forgot about the players' reputation as well? Will Korea even buy into that sort of "wow everything is easier" gimmick that they use with WoW and such in the West? How do they feel about their SC heroes doing this sorta thing? | ||
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negativedge
4279 Posts
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liberate71
Australia10252 Posts
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Arisen
United States2382 Posts
"sometime's it feels like the computer plays better than me!" | ||
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
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Maxilicious
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Talaris
Switzerland753 Posts
On March 01 2013 13:54 negativedge wrote: to be fair, the computer probably is better than Jaedong right now /lowblow Try to see it that way :o): /fanboiism OMG, JD is such a baller ! o.0 Just to make his AD-statement more believable (Computer plays better than him), he went on a losing streak in PL in he last weeks. Now that's professionalism par excellence !! Pay this man extra, Blizz ! /bw-fanboiism off | ||
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ssi.bal-listic
United States568 Posts
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FlaShFTW
United States10160 Posts
pretty cool :D | ||
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L0L
United States176 Posts
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MasterCynical
505 Posts
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VelRa_G
Canada304 Posts
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LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
On March 01 2013 07:34 EpicDemente wrote: BW elitists dont remember that sc1 took SEVEN YEARS to get to the best point... can they give the same ammount of time for sc2? no, they just want to bitch on how sc1 is better than sc2 instead of being the supposed "smart" people of the community because they played a game that was harder -_- You reallllllllly don't know what you're talking about, sir. I don't even hate SC2. ._. | ||
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Sigh
Canada2433 Posts
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urashimakt
United States1591 Posts
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jigga
Canada1141 Posts
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SohcranA
United States36 Posts
On March 01 2013 13:17 Goldfish wrote: Everyone hating on the video (or making fun of it) because Blizzard made Jaedong, Flash, and Nada pretend to be excited - I'm actually glad they chose them. It shows Jaedong, Flash, and Nada know how to do commercials, which is very important for marketing. (Remember Inside The Game's talk on how Koreans aren't very marketable? Stuff like this helps Koreans be more marketable, of course too bad the video was done without subs and for Korea mainly and not anywhere else. .)Well this is a good way to do it (though IMO, they should also do an official subbed version for English viewers too). How is it that "marketing" and "lying" became so closely intertwined? There is no way in hell that these guys care about leveling up or issuing commands to ai players. Advertising a product is one thing. Being dishonest is (or at least, should be) something else entirely. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
By lies, I mean: okay, they are being professionals and saying what they were told, even though they don't give a shit about most of these features (or haven't even tried them actually, cuz they don't need them at all). | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On March 02 2013 10:08 azoriusherald wrote: How is it that "marketing" and "lying" became so closely intertwined? There is no way in hell that these guys care about leveling up or issuing commands to ai players. Advertising a product is one thing. Being dishonest is (or at least, should be) something else entirely. You clearly don't really know or pretend not to know about "marketing" or "advertising"... Being dishonest is quite common in advertising. Saying one thing while thinking another is very very common when you do advertisement. | ||
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haffy
United Kingdom430 Posts
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Falling
Canada11350 Posts
But what are you going to do? They're trying to market all their features. It's still pretty lol... | ||
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Rodiel3
France1158 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On March 02 2013 10:08 azoriusherald wrote: How is it that "marketing" and "lying" became so closely intertwined? There is no way in hell that these guys care about leveling up or issuing commands to ai players. Advertising a product is one thing. Being dishonest is (or at least, should be) something else entirely. Yeah, because in every commercial ever the people advertising the products actually love them that much. What are you even talking about? | ||
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Chronald
United States619 Posts
Love it hahahaha. The best is Flash talking about ladder nerves. ROFLROFL. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On March 02 2013 10:27 Falling wrote: Haha. I find it somewhat doubtful that Jaedong master-of-zergling-and-muta-micro- 'The Tyrant' thinks the levelling system is the most interesting part of an RTS. lol But what are you going to do? They're trying to market all their features. It's still pretty lol... Yeah you can tell they were told to say this as LOL as if jaedong/flash care about those more casual features such as leveling and what not. | ||
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
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GolemMadness
Canada11044 Posts
On March 02 2013 11:19 blade55555 wrote: Yeah you can tell they were told to say this as LOL as if jaedong/flash care about those more casual features such as leveling and what not. Whoa, whoa, whoa. People are told what to say in advertisements? O_O | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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achan1058
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On March 02 2013 11:28 quirinus wrote: I died when Flash said he has ladder anxiety sometimes. XDDDDD He probably only plays custom games and never laddered. | ||
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Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
On March 02 2013 11:39 FeyFey wrote: haha pretty cool and they have chosen the features pretty well for the players. Flash promoting ladder anxiety will entertain everyone that knows a tiny bit about flash. Every ladder match is an OSL Finals Game 7. | ||
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TAMinator
Australia2706 Posts
Flash: "Sometimes I get nervous on the ladder" JD: "Sometimes I feel AI is playing better than me" Those made me laugh. Still good to see they're doing these promos. These nerds are definitely used to being in front of a camera. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
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Ctone23
United States1839 Posts
On March 02 2013 10:08 azoriusherald wrote: How is it that "marketing" and "lying" became so closely intertwined? There is no way in hell that these guys care about leveling up or issuing commands to ai players. Advertising a product is one thing. Being dishonest is (or at least, should be) something else entirely. "Lying" seems harsh, considering this is a business avenue. Three of the very best players of the franchise, endorsing the new features, and showing some humility is a great way to build a foundation for more years to come. I don't think they were being completely genuine, but then again, I think the target audience was quite a bit younger than myself. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:25 Fionn wrote: Bisu's main purpose these days is to be dug up for show matches and silly promotional stuff like this. Didn't that happen to Savior after he started to suck? Oh delicious irony, let me taste his tears. I would expect it more because he's an awkward communicator (according to that Boxer/Bisu interview a few years ago).. He's still the pretty boy of SKT, and that probably counts for something. | ||
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Snoodles
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Whiztard
United States227 Posts
but hey, if it helps bringing in the audience, good stuff | ||
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
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vividred
88 Posts
On March 02 2013 10:16 Veldril wrote: You clearly don't really know or pretend not to know about "marketing" or "advertising"... Being dishonest is quite common in advertising. Saying one thing while thinking another is very very common when you do advertisement. Apple does that all the time, what are you talking about. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On March 02 2013 12:27 Whiztard wrote: i don't believe a single word these guys are saying; got a good kick out of it but hey, if it helps bringing in the audience, good stuff General rule is to not believe anything anybody says in promotions, take it from customer reviews | ||
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SecondSandwich
United States319 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:06 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Nada? Does he still carry Starcraft clout in terms of people listening to his opinions on SC2 products? He hasn't played in a while right? Embarrassing! | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On February 28 2013 18:06 Torpedo.Vegas wrote: Nada? Does he still carry Starcraft clout in terms of people listening to his opinions on SC2 products? He hasn't played in a while right? Michael Jordan still makes more in endorsements than almost everybody. | ||
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Gurgl
Sweden308 Posts
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Glenn313
United States475 Posts
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rename
Estonia329 Posts
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
Flash is too scared to play on the ladder... ...and Jaedong feels the AI is better than him... | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
I wonder if some of you freak out all the time you watch a commercial/promotion/advertisement. | ||
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Warpath
Canada1242 Posts
On March 02 2013 12:02 Excalibur_Z wrote: Every ladder match is an OSL Finals Game 7. Its like you can see into my mind. | ||
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mandm157
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DanLee
Canada316 Posts
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RiceAgainst
United States1849 Posts
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
On March 02 2013 14:13 DanLee wrote: Good lord, Jaedong gets scared when his opponent is higher level and flash has ladder anxiety. Likely story blizzard... *uses fanboyism to disregard results* JD getting scared when his opponent is higher level is accurate...but there's NOONE HIGHER LEVEL than him! | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
On March 02 2013 14:13 DanLee wrote: Good lord, Jaedong gets scared when his opponent is higher level and flash has ladder anxiety. Likely story blizzard... "When I see I have matched against Taseless, I feel afraid for my ladder points. This is why unranked can help reduce my stress." | ||
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MarkCJ
Canada239 Posts
On March 02 2013 14:27 RiceAgainst wrote: Haha, this was funny to watch. Getting them to promote the features is nice, despite them not being super serious and truthful. you mean Flash doesn't get ladder anxiety? | ||
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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netherDrake
Singapore1831 Posts
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
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Meatloaf
Spain664 Posts
poor flash. | ||
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Graphix
United States208 Posts
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nepeta
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Ace1123
Philippines1187 Posts
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Isualin
Germany1903 Posts
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Pit667
Poland130 Posts
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On March 02 2013 13:18 Assirra wrote: People, its a promotion stunt, not a police interrogation with a lie detector. I wonder if some of you freak out all the time you watch a commercial/promotion/advertisement. This is way past what is usual (at least in any culture I have seen, but I am somewhat ignorant of how advertising works in Korea). They are not twisting the truth or skewing their views. I hesitate to really call it lying as it is so obviously false that it can't possibly be intended to deceive anyone. I don't really care that Blizzard did this, I'm not angry, but it is definitely silly and I don't see the point. Anyone who knows these three players to any extent will know that this is not their views so will not be compelled to buy HoTS based on this, and people who don't know them obviously couldn't care less what they think. This would be like recruiting top NBA basketball players to talk about how useful they find a 6 feet high basketball hoop with 50% larger diameter designed for kids, and how they often like to play with lighter and smaller balls since using a real basketball can be exhausting and intimidating. | ||
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publicenemies
458 Posts
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Delphiki
Philippines1955 Posts
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Nihilnovi
Sweden696 Posts
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derpface
Sweden925 Posts
On March 02 2013 14:36 Mohdoo wrote: "When I see I have matched against Taseless, I feel afraid for my ladder points. This is why unranked can help reduce my stress." But tasteless doesnt play SC2 anymore. | ||
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mdb
Bulgaria4059 Posts
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
On March 01 2013 08:21 Scrutinizer wrote: When the large majority of the pre-SC2 users/followers/lurkers of TL (except maybe the staff, understandably) is saying that BW was simply better, shouldn't this at least ring some bells inside the heads of post-SC2 newcomers?? Older gamers are the ones who played and experienced both games and pro-scenes, and you know, maybe they are not getting paid to say so and it perhaps is the truth? I cant even imagine how hard it must be for BW pros (somewhat forced) to switch to a completely new and different game after years of crazy investment, especially for those like JD and Flash here... It outright killed the careers of high caliber players like Sea. Sounds like one of those grandpa in my old days stories. Playing games longer doesn't mean you have better tastes. I played most major games on release including broodwar and I still think broodwar was a failure as a game, and even sc2 relative to modern standards. It just have way too steep of a learning curve and team games are becomes way too unbalanced. I enjoy watching the scenes, but as a gamer I find wc3, age of empire and earlier red alert games to be much more enjoyable to play. | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
On March 02 2013 22:18 mdb wrote: lol what a joke how mad? Funny vid!! | ||
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lolmlg
619 Posts
On March 02 2013 22:19 iky43210 wrote: Sounds like one of those grandpa in my old days stories The last Brood War champion was crowned a few months ago. How fetal are you bro? User was warned for this post | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
On March 02 2013 22:25 lolmlg wrote: The last Brood War champion was crowned a few months ago. How fetal are you bro? broodwar is dead. how mad are u now? User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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lolmlg
619 Posts
lol? What does that have to do with the topic? Prog was better than hair metal too. Now they're both dead. | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
On March 02 2013 22:29 lolmlg wrote: lol? What does that have to do with the topic? Prog was better than hair metal too. Now they're both dead. It was as relevant as your previous comment, unless you can't into context | ||
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KoBlades
Austria248 Posts
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lolmlg
619 Posts
On March 02 2013 22:30 iky43210 wrote: It was as relevant as your previous comment, unless you can't into context Yeah, actually it wasn't. Maybe you're looking for some kind of easy way out of the conversation based on the fact that he said "pre-SC2" and "post-SC2" or something but what he literally said wasn't relevant to the point he was trying to make since the games co-existed. Anyone who was watching in 2012 would have the opportunity to say they thought the BW pro scene was better, more exciting, more interesting, whatever. That was last summer. Don't know why some people get so uppity and defensive about people thinking the sequel is worse than the original, it's kind of amusing since that happens all the time in lots of contexts. | ||
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iky43210
United States2099 Posts
On March 02 2013 22:36 lolmlg wrote: Yeah, actually it wasn't. Maybe you're looking for some kind of easy way out of the conversation based on the fact that he said "pre-SC2" and "post-SC2" or something but what he literally said wasn't relevant to the point he was trying to make since the games co-existed. Anyone who was watching in 2012 would have the opportunity to say they thought the BW pro scene was better, more exciting, more interesting, whatever. That was last summer. Don't know why some people get so uppity and defensive about people thinking the sequel is worse than the original, it's kind of amusing since that happens all the time in lots of contexts. When you start sentence with something like below, you know you're getting into the whole "back in the days" elitism. "When the large majority of the pre-SC2 users/followers/lurkers of TL" and then you get "Older gamers are the ones who played and experienced both games and pro-scenes" I guess you just can't into context. | ||
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bo1b
Australia12814 Posts
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trew
Sweden93 Posts
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lolmlg
619 Posts
On March 02 2013 22:39 iky43210 wrote: When you start sentence with something like below, you know you're getting into the whole "back in the days" elitism. "When the large majority of the pre-SC2 users/followers/lurkers of TL" and then you get "Older gamers are the ones who played and experienced both games and pro-scenes" I guess you just can't into context. Your personal feelings on his post aren't the context. And "grandpa story" isn't the same thing as "elitism". The last Brood War event happened last summer. There are VODs. It isn't subject to unverifiable tale-telling. It's a real thing that lots of people remember clearly. To get uppity about the idea of people preferring that event and events more closely related to it is kind of amusing. I mean, if you really feel that plebeian for being younger or for not having watched Brood War, that's fine. But you can't really rail against elitists on a forum that was built around that topic and which still possesses many of the users the original poster was talking about. There's nothing elite about having turned on a stream in 2012. Or even 2011, if you can believe it. Tons of people did that. | ||
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Godwrath
Spain10126 Posts
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agahamsorr0w
Netherlands359 Posts
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On March 02 2013 22:52 lolmlg wrote: Your personal feelings on his post aren't the context. And "grandpa story" isn't the same thing as "elitism". The last Brood War event happened last summer. There are VODs. It isn't subject to unverifiable tale-telling. It's a real thing that lots of people remember clearly. To get uppity about the idea of people preferring that event and events more closely related to it is kind of amusing. I mean, if you really feel that plebeian for being younger or for not having watched Brood War, that's fine. But you can't really rail against elitists on a forum that was built around that topic and which still possesses many of the users the original poster was talking about. There's nothing elite about having turned on a stream in 2012. Or even 2011, if you can believe it. Tons of people did that. well the thing is, with 99% of the progamers spended incredable amount of hours into the game (12-17+) the game should atleast have a high skill sceiling to prevent having to "ultra balance" something, the more skill needed, the less balance starts to matter. and we hitted that wall a long time ago since its yust so easy to play near perfection. that is also the reason why most people say bw is a better game, purely becouse of that balance is almost pefect and playing near perfection is a incredable hard thing to do, which totally isn't at sc2. ontopic, LOL flash nerveus???? how many takes did he had to try to saying that without laughing?XD | ||
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United States33389 Posts
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Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
On March 02 2013 12:02 Excalibur_Z wrote: Every ladder match is an OSL Finals Game 7. Best of 5 ;; | ||
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Detri
United Kingdom683 Posts
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phipsL
Germany189 Posts
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RunningInSquares
United States215 Posts
Oh, my sides. | ||
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Ry2D2
United States429 Posts
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NotoriousBig
Germany301 Posts
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Nairi
Finland75 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
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BeyondCtrL
Sweden642 Posts
On February 28 2013 19:28 Locke- wrote: Flash says he sometimes has ladder anxiety lol I know right? I was laughing every time Flash appeared... | ||
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zeo
Serbia6284 Posts
EDIT: and Nada switching to World of Tanks makes me think about how exited he is for this game | ||
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
This is brilliant, next level of advertising. | ||
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Coal
Sweden1535 Posts
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JTouche
United States239 Posts
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MrMotionPicture
United States4327 Posts
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United States36 Posts
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Finland1033 Posts
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United States1865 Posts
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