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Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 13:51:17
January 29 2013 13:43 GMT
#41
On January 29 2013 22:39 JDStrafe wrote:
Man I told you on the mTw post, Blizzard needs to get their act together before SC2 is gone from competitive gaming. I hate to say it but I think Destiny was right; the just isn't going to pull in the numbers because there isn't a big enough "casual gamer" fan base.


Did you read anything in this thread at all? You couldn't be further away from relevant if you tried.

Odds are, and this is pure speculation, SteelSeries gave them the financial finger when they moved around a lot of their sponsorship recently. In this case, I couldn't blame them the slightest. Incompetence abound.
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Cattlecruiser
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
January 29 2013 13:43 GMT
#42
On January 29 2013 22:11 -Kyo- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 22:08 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Honestly, I thought they were just a clan.

Haven't even seen their tag since 2011.
RuFF was an entertaining player.
I think they had Titan earlier in his career as well?
Can't say I'll miss them, but departure of teams isn't great news.


Different Titan, but yes, he was probably their most notable player in terms of representing the team since the start. Was too bad he didn't play SC2 for long After Titan departed it seems like the team constantly continued to fall.


Ah, I see one is Russian and the other American.
I remember in one of the earlier MLGs Titan was a strong candidate to impress.

With HoTS, I hope that North American scene will stabilize to more teams like clarity instead of these small groups of clan type organizations.
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-29 13:47:58
January 29 2013 13:47 GMT
#43
On January 29 2013 22:39 Glurkenspurk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 29 2013 22:39 JDStrafe wrote:
Man I told you on the mTw post, Blizzard needs to get their act together before SC2 is gone from competitive gaming. I hate to say it but I think Destiny was right; the just isn't going to pull in the numbers because there isn't a big enough "casual gamer" fan base.


That's far from the reason why mTw and vVv shut down. In fact, it's not related in any way.

Management was the problem for both of those.

No he is right, if Blizzard actually solved the problems they would have time over to go into these teams and run them for them since the teams themselves obviously don't know what they are doing. Dustin could had run mTv and David Kim could had taken over vVv and everything would had been fine. I blame this on Blizzard as well
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TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
January 29 2013 13:48 GMT
#44
Not surprised by the unprofessionalism, just unfortunate the management didn't pay as much attention to their SC2 counterpart, makes me sad.
TBone-
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2309 Posts
January 29 2013 13:55 GMT
#45
Man this is weird. I mean a community disbanding is incredibly rare. vVv was not a team, but a community, and the fact they disbanded means that there was probably some insanely weird inhouse problems.
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fortheGG
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1002 Posts
January 29 2013 14:05 GMT
#46
honestly agree with vvv's owners points..
stratmatt
Profile Joined April 2011
United States913 Posts
January 29 2013 14:06 GMT
#47
On January 29 2013 21:30 Solarsail wrote:
If anyone wants to know what the team's manager is like:

"Top 5" rants from this guy from the VVV show. Skip through it and it'll be obvious.




thanks for posting, this guy actually makes a million great points.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
January 29 2013 14:11 GMT
#48
I thought this team already died months ago
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desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
January 29 2013 14:11 GMT
#49
I remember how I was forced to leave because I couldn't afford my MLG trip back in March 2011. They had a really nice team spirit and we meshed very well for the 1 week that lasted. The management was a joke and it was really unfortunate.
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ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
January 29 2013 14:12 GMT
#50
On January 29 2013 23:11 FXOdesRow wrote:
I remember how I was forced to leave because I couldn't afford my MLG trip back in March 2011. They had a really nice team spirit and we meshed very well for the 1 week that lasted. The management was a joke and it was really unfortunate.


Forced to leave because you couldn't afford the trip? Wow.
weepingtweeter
Profile Joined October 2012
United States9 Posts
January 29 2013 14:17 GMT
#51
I had saw this coming since a lot of people I had met were from vVv and they all complained about the poor management, and how the old values of vVv were never kept.
HoLe
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada183 Posts
January 29 2013 14:20 GMT
#52
AcerRuFF incoming
Terran.
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
January 29 2013 14:24 GMT
#53
never heard of them.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 29 2013 14:26 GMT
#54
They were cool when Time and Murder were on the team. No idea why they let them go for RuFF.
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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19400 Posts
January 29 2013 14:29 GMT
#55
On January 29 2013 23:11 Shellshock1122 wrote:
I thought this team already died months ago

This, they died off from the scene early 2012. They used to do a lot of streaming but I guess losing the organization isn't a huge ordeal. Still sad about the players though.
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MVega
Profile Joined November 2010
763 Posts
January 29 2013 14:29 GMT
#56
On January 29 2013 22:39 JDStrafe wrote:
Man I told you on the mTw post, Blizzard needs to get their act together before SC2 is gone from competitive gaming. I hate to say it but I think Destiny was right; the just isn't going to pull in the numbers because there isn't a big enough "casual gamer" fan base.



So it's Blizzards fault that small teams aren't supporting their players or eSports titles enough and are then closing? vVv has had poor management for ages, and it's no wonder that they're closing their SC2 division. In the case of vvv and mTw they failed to invest in their SC2 teams. It's not Blizzard's job to invest in a the SC2 divisions of teams, it's the team's job. What do you think is going to happen if you take SC2 players, or any eSports players on to your team and then just leave them sit there to rot without investing in them? The team isn't going to last.

Destiny doesn't have anything to do with small teams disbanding either. His points were that Blizzard needs to do more to make their game casual friendly and they have added some positive casual player aspects to HotS that give them something to do while the rest of us play ladder and watch pro players play or whatever. Destiny's points were directed at the interests of casual PLAYERS, not casual teams. There is a huge difference there. The people Destiny's rant was for have likely never heard of either VVV or mTw.
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12909 Posts
January 29 2013 14:33 GMT
#57
I can see this happening more often as smaller teams find out that LoL has a much bigger market than SC2 right now and don't need to be to players to get 5k+ viewers on stream.
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docvoc
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States5491 Posts
January 29 2013 14:39 GMT
#58
Wait, what is happening Hyuna and the vVv academy team? Are they leaving too? This is so sad, these guys were my favorite team to watch stream . That management is depressing, I hate the fact that they say they were spread too thin when it sounds like they just had a lot of apathy.
User was warned for too many mimes.
Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
January 29 2013 14:40 GMT
#59
yea ive found vVv to be incredibly obnoxious and arrogant despite having any laurels that they seem to rest on.. lol..

wont be missed,
bring back weapon of choice for hots!
BadAim
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway879 Posts
January 29 2013 14:41 GMT
#60
They did this to their fighting game division aswell, even though their players was performing quite well.

I think we all should be glad to be rid of this disease. Just feel bad about the sc2 roster which kinda was mistreated.
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