vVv had a few good player vVvRuff titan and a few others, but ya have not heard anything from vVv in a while so this actually does not shock me much. and it does make vVv look ignorant to the sc2 scene. when a new expansion is just about to come out lol

QuasarStarcraft

United States46 Posts

January 29 2013 15:11 GMT

#65

After meeting vVvParadise at MLG Orlando, I was introduced to the vVv guys and they seemed like a good group of guys. I hope they all find a good home :D

llIH

Norway2144 Posts

January 29 2013 15:24 GMT

#66

Is the scene shrinking?
But no matter the team. It is bad if they shut down.

djukger

Germany68 Posts

January 29 2013 15:26 GMT

#67

well to be fair the raging guy on the clip has quite a lot of valid points

Zerg.Zilla

Hungary5029 Posts

January 29 2013 15:38 GMT

#68

On January 30 2013 00:24 KAB00000000M wrote:
Is the scene shrinking?
But no matter the team. It is bad if they shut down.

Small teams rise and fall all the time.The scene is not shrinking...sure we lost a couple of big teams

(Slayers,TSL) but we got some new ones Azubu,Axiom,Clarity...and i think with HotS here on the doorstep things will continue to grow.

GhandiEAGLE

United States20754 Posts

January 29 2013 15:38 GMT

#69

I hope those players find themselves under a better organization that what seemed to be in place here ^_^

GL to all

lolmlg

619 Posts

January 29 2013 15:40 GMT

#70

This doesn't even seem like a dispute. The management said they're dissolving their SC2 division because they don't see a future in it. The players say they left because the sponsored team was dissolved and the management seemed disinterested. Seems to me that if the management dissolved the sponsored team and were disinterested, it was probably because they didn't see a future in SC2.

If I had to guess I'd say there was some clause in the agreement vVv had with the players in the Aspire program that would make it easier for the organization, either legally, financially, or whatever, if the players quit. So they just let them quit.

SupLilSon

Malaysia4123 Posts

January 29 2013 15:41 GMT

#71

On January 30 2013 00:26 djukger wrote:
well to be fair the raging guy on the clip has quite a lot of valid points

Sometimes presentation is more important than the points themselves. How you conduct yourself and present your argument can be more persuasive than your ideas. That guy has no idea how to manipulate public speaking, he just yells and gets loud.

TaShadan

Germany1978 Posts

January 29 2013 15:44 GMT

#72

sc2 is not much about team leagues like wc3 and scbw were so smaller teams are not that important

SugarBear

United States842 Posts

January 29 2013 15:46 GMT

#73

Sad to see vVv leave this space. vVv has spent thousands of dollars, between WNS and sponsoring players to events (Rigid, RuFF, Hasuu, Glon, RockEr, MurDeR, Titan, NGry, etc.), in the SC2 space (many of those players probably wouldn't have been sponsored by other organizations and never would've gotten the opportunity to compete at a major LAN).

DavoS

United States4605 Posts

January 29 2013 15:54 GMT

#74

I wasn't even aware there was a vVv team O_o

TheSwamp

United States1497 Posts

January 29 2013 15:55 GMT

#75

On January 29 2013 22:08 Cattlecruiser wrote:
Honestly, I thought they were just a clan.

Haven't even seen their tag since 2011.
RuFF was an entertaining player.
I think they had Titan earlier in his career as well?
Can't say I'll miss them, but departure of teams isn't great news.

Same here! I never knew they were considered an actual team, which shows how inept their management truly were.

Also that video is pretty terrible. Glad I never watched whatever that show was.

pb.fcnz

Canada101 Posts

January 29 2013 15:58 GMT

#76

Lol, I remember warning people on these forums when vVv announced a division.

They have always been a joke of an organization to most people involved in eSports. They came from a console fps background, so not much else should have been expected. These guys who manage vVv have never learned the ropes of eSports before plunging into it. Like most console gamers, they thought they knew it all because they had sent a few teams to MLG to play in some garbage console fps (before MLG dropped the Halo nonsense and picked up SC2 as it's first non-joke game).

MrMedic

Canada452 Posts

January 29 2013 16:06 GMT

#77

It is sad to see, one of my friends who was on the team expressed his view on everything that has happened (which did not sound good). I just hope that competent teams will pick up these players. Good riddance!

Limelights

United States219 Posts

January 29 2013 16:17 GMT

#78

On January 29 2013 23:50 tili wrote:
vVv... Who?

I respect vVv Gaming for winning titles in countless games but that doesn't mean the majority of vVv members aren't teenage boys with giant egos. They call themselves an 'Academy Team'. They advertise that anyone who passes an evaluation can join and rise through the ranks of their respective game and eventually be on the team that vVv pays to go out to events. Bullshit! All everything is in that community is a popularity contest. They don't evaluate possible members on being respectful, loyal and well-mannered, they only look for skill in their members. The entire vVv community is tainted with negativity and it shows in the upper-management all the way down to the AM players.

On another note: I can't believe how ignorant some of you are. Just because vVv Gaming hasn't accomplished anything in Starcraft 2 doesn't mean they don't dominate a ton of other games. They're the biggest gaming team in the world and the only team that comes close to the amount of teams that travel to events is Dignitas.

Eggi

478 Posts

January 29 2013 16:19 GMT

#79

On January 29 2013 23:55 Martijn wrote:
NuBrGNi says he'll be making a statement on the matter shortly on his experience with vVv.

a statement? more like a blog post.
He was on the team for a month, even though they dicked him, his experience is small to say the least.
Just let it go and stop acting like it was a pro team.

No one took vVv(SC2) seriously.