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starfinder
Japan167 Posts
On January 16 2013 21:56 tskarzyn wrote: The GSL guys spend most of their preparation on GSL opponents and maps and vice versa for pro league. No gsl guys here.All these 7 players from proleague team. | ||
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Chloroplaste
France281 Posts
Some kespa players are very good though. Close this thread it's not reddit, and this is a wrong title. User was warned for this post | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
2) Snipers 3) Maps 4) Proximity of the top level of competition 5) How well player does on the day People always think 5 isn't a thing. Like a player's skill rises or falls as opposed to players just having a fantastic day vs a terrible day. I mean Yonghwa fails to get into Code A every day of his life and then proceeds to become WCG KR champion against far harder competition. Still a bracket tournament. Maps basically the same. He just did better on the given day. Anyway, it's still notably early days of proleague. And the only Code S mainstay listed (Taeja) has been on a downturn. Injury related I believe. But still. | ||
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malaan
365 Posts
Without this format it becomes a very difficult situation. Cheese becomes even more dangerous  | ||
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starfinder
Japan167 Posts
On January 16 2013 22:17 Chloroplaste wrote: Proleague level is still far behind, and the format is different, and ESF cant play proleague that they would dominate. Taeja is 6 2 and have wrist problem, kespa players are doing bad in GSL. Some kespa players are very good though. Close this thread it's not reddit, and this is a wrong title. Any esf player in this title? it's a title only about proleague and 7 proleague players who going to play in code S. | ||
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StarMoon
Canada682 Posts
If that doesn't give you nerves in the booth, can't imagine what would. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
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starfinder
Japan167 Posts
On January 16 2013 22:23 malaan wrote: surely, the most important reason is they don't know who they are going to play... GSL gives players a week to practice a specific matchup vs a specific player who they can research? Without this format it becomes a very difficult situation. Cheese becomes even more dangerous proleague matchup and starters announced every Thursday,they have 2~4 days to prepare a match too. | ||
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hangarninetysix
263 Posts
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starfinder
Japan167 Posts
Others sniping them,they sniping others too.they also cheesed and cheesing others,both in proleague and gsl. Any unfair situation? | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
vs Best of Three (3) Is the reason. You put the Code S guys vs KeSPA guys in BO3 format and you would get closer results. Stephano i doub't would of lost the games he did if he played in a BO3 format. | ||
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hzflank
United Kingdom2991 Posts
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
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[F_]aths
Germany3947 Posts
On January 16 2013 22:51 Pandemona wrote: Best of One (1) vs Best of Three (3) Is the reason. You put the Code S guys vs KeSPA guys in BO3 format and you would get closer results. Stephano i doub't would of lost the games he did if he played in a BO3 format. Bo1 should increase the noise (a short-term deviation), but not the overall result compared to a Bo3 format. | ||
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winthrop
Hong Kong956 Posts
some of listed players are probably not code S materials. except taeja stephano Innovation and Soulkey. | ||
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wklbishop
United States1286 Posts
On January 16 2013 21:49 00Visor wrote: Counter question: Why are the top proleague players not doing well in GSL? Seems they are not Code S level ... (always view it both ways  People have been asking this, note all the up and down recaps from this season and last season. This is the first time I've seen someone ask it the other way around as to why Code S aren't doing too well in Proleague. | ||
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Absurdly
Canada59 Posts
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warmus
United Kingdom196 Posts
On January 16 2013 22:43 hangarninetysix wrote: The most obvious reason: KeSPA players are on salary primarily for proleague - they don't spend nearly as much time preparing on GSL. This. It is simply a matter of different practice priorities. For all PL teams bar EZ-TL (sorry but their current standings somewhat warrant this) proleague is by far the most important tourney, and its not even close. If you have proleague games to prepare for vs. UP and DOWN hell with 5 bo1 vs all three races i think it is obvious what PL teams decide to focus on. Doesnt mean that they would absolutely crush all competition all competition with 100% effort dedicated to GSL, but by watching games you have to admit the average game level is at LEAST the same as code A, if not better. This is bound to happen with this kind of format where "high skill gap" match ups happen often yet majority of games are still somewhat close. I mean Rain in Code B vs Huk in code S, go figure. | ||
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X3GoldDot
Malaysia3840 Posts
On January 16 2013 23:08 warmus wrote: This. It is simply a matter of different practice priorities. For all PL teams bar EZ-TL (sorry but their current standings somewhat warrant this) proleague is by far the most important tourney, and its not even close. If you have proleague games to prepare for vs. UP and DOWN hell with 5 bo1 vs all three races i think it is obvious what PL teams decide to focus on. Doesnt mean that they would absolutely crush all competition all competition with 100% effort dedicated to GSL, but by watching games you have to admit the average game level is at LEAST the same as code A, if not better. This is bound to happen with this kind of format where "high skill gap" match ups happen often yet majority of games are still somewhat close. I mean Rain in Code B vs Huk in code S, go figure. 'EZ-TL' is still ahead of 2 teams in overall rankings. | ||
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kubiks
France1328 Posts
Yep code S players are not in the top 10 elo of proleague, but does all the "top10 elo" code S player play in proleague : not really... It's not like if they all had really negative stats btw, worst is HuK and I'll be surprised if he manages to go through ro32... After there is the map/training/kespaisjustsuperior explanation, but I think the "code S" players are doing pretty well... | ||
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