Because the people of Phaethon haven't paid their energy bill.

Doesn't seem to bad of an idea to me to be honest. Their vision is really important in the early game but later on becomes less and less crucial. It pretty much requires you to work a lot harder to gain vision (e.g. for tanks). I like the idea because it requires more map presence and activity (or so I hope).

TheDougler

Canada8302 Posts

January 16 2013 22:06 GMT

#227

On January 17 2013 06:55 Billinator wrote:
why the hell do the xelnaga power down after 7 minutes in akilon flats? 0_o

Because they want to encourage scouting throughout the game, not just sending one guy over and forgetting about it for the rest of the game. I think that's a great change. Reduces cheese, but doesn't reward lazy play.

TheDougler

Canada8302 Posts

January 16 2013 22:19 GMT

#228

On January 17 2013 02:58 Gfire wrote:

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In modern thinking, gold bases are fine and daybreak is bad and old. Get with it, man.

I can't wait to see who does a better job microing their workers onto the gold minerals on Icarus, though. I'm having flashbacks to Kulas Extreme.

I did really like Icarus when I first saw it and I'm glad it was picked up by GSL. Seems like a cool map to try... not too wonky but not completely orthodox either. Well, maybe it's pretty wonky... But I like it, anyway. Might watch more of this season than the previous, if I can find the time.

In my opinion golds have been fine since the mule change a year ago. I'm sure plenty will disagree with me but once everyone could make use of gold equally I don't think there was a problem. We saw that in MLG for a while, they kept gold on Antiga (which is funny because it's a bad map for gold. He who holds the middle already has an advantage on that map. And yet still saw the same racial balances as Antiga without gold.

I'm glad Kespa wasn't afraid to mess around with gold minerals.

Babru

196 Posts

January 16 2013 22:22 GMT

#229

I like nerfing watchtowers, but i dont like some odd 7 minute rule that makes the gap between ladder and tournament experience even bigger. I would be ok with removing them from the game completely to be honest, when i think about it i actually would like that very much (im zerg so i got free scouts with speedlings all game long anyways, not to mention placing out overlords with speed on key locations).

TheDougler

Canada8302 Posts

January 16 2013 22:25 GMT

#230

On January 17 2013 07:22 Babru wrote:
I like nerfing watchtowers, but i dont like some odd 7 minute rule that makes the gap between ladder and tournament experience even bigger. I would be ok with removing them from the game completely to be honest, when i think about it i actually would like that very much (im zerg so i got free scouts with speedlings all game long anyways, not to mention placing out overlords with speed on key locations).

This is nothing new though. This has been around in some tournament maps such as Testbug for almost 2 years.

Babru

196 Posts

January 16 2013 22:29 GMT

#231

On January 17 2013 07:25 TheDougler wrote:

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This is nothing new though. This has been around in some tournament maps such as Testbug for almost 2 years.

I see. I dont think ive seen that map played in any tournament ive watched in a long time though.

Anyways, like i said, lets remove watchtowers all together.

EliteSK

Korea (South)251 Posts

January 16 2013 22:30 GMT

#232

Far 3rd on Neo Planet S and Icarus...Interesting to see any playstyle changes caused by the maps with all these super fast 3 hatch builds and triple cc builds as of late.

Lobotomist

United States1541 Posts

January 16 2013 22:59 GMT

#233

icarus looks like it could produce some interesting games for zvt. zvp...i don't see how you could lose as protoss on that map. probably don't even need a forge to fe

yokohama

United States1116 Posts

January 16 2013 23:06 GMT

#234

It is cool that GSL is adopting Kespa maps. I don't see a map that I don't like, hopefully it will make this a good season. Gold expansions on Neo Planet S should be interesting, and I love the lack of watch towers. The timer on the watch tower in Alkalon Flats is an idea I like and I feel it should be played with more in the future. I am very excited!

Nazeron

Canada1046 Posts

January 16 2013 23:20 GMT

#235

awesome changes, cant wait to see how gsl plays out on these new maps

Adreme

United States5574 Posts

January 16 2013 23:23 GMT

#236

On January 17 2013 07:29 Babru wrote:

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I see. I dont think ive seen that map played in any tournament ive watched in a long time though.

Anyways, like i said, lets remove watchtowers all together.

If your concern is ladder and tournament maps being too different than removing towers isnt going to change that because blizzard isnt going to remove towers from ladder maps anytime soon.

ZigguratOfUr

Iraq16955 Posts

January 16 2013 23:35 GMT

#237

Icarus seems like a really interesting map, since grabbing a third seems really difficult. I wonder how Zerg will fare on this map though.

chichom27

Ecuador56 Posts

January 17 2013 00:01 GMT

#238

On January 17 2013 06:41 DarkLordOlli wrote:

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Because of huge racial imbalances.

Which ones? Is there another thread that talks about it?

DavoS

United States4605 Posts

January 17 2013 00:28 GMT

#239

On January 16 2013 18:23 Tsubbi wrote:
so no 3rd base for zerg on whirlwind and belshir, time travel indeed

Must be a Protoss conservation plan, let them get to RO8 on two base all ins like 2011

BluePanther

United States2776 Posts

January 17 2013 00:35 GMT

#240

On January 17 2013 07:29 Babru wrote:

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I see. I dont think ive seen that map played in any tournament ive watched in a long time though.

Anyways, like i said, lets remove watchtowers all together.

There was a cool map a while ago that had destructible watch towers.