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On December 05 2012 12:15 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 12:04 Torte de Lini wrote:There is almost no reason for at least one of those two not to pick him up. He's also not a Naniwa who is known for being hard to deal with sometimes in a team environment. That isn't a bash at Nani btw, I like Naniwa and feel some of this is somewhat exaggerated. In the case of SaSe: You'd be surprised. Well ok, Major then  He's known for being a teamhopper, but yet Root and him were able to coexist perfectly well. He 'teamhopped' over to try and join a Korean team, but Root respected this decision and didn't call him a dick for it, instead wishing him the best.
They all have their degrees of difficulties. What they offer though is pretty much worth accepting and working with. For SaSe and NaNiwa, the work was pretty rough, but boy did they pull through.
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the ddoro curse strikes again
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Northern Ireland26225 Posts
On December 05 2012 12:17 Torte de Lini wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 12:15 Wombat_NI wrote:On December 05 2012 12:04 Torte de Lini wrote:There is almost no reason for at least one of those two not to pick him up. He's also not a Naniwa who is known for being hard to deal with sometimes in a team environment. That isn't a bash at Nani btw, I like Naniwa and feel some of this is somewhat exaggerated. In the case of SaSe: You'd be surprised. Well ok, Major then He's known for being a teamhopper, but yet Root and him were able to coexist perfectly well. He 'teamhopped' over to try and join a Korean team, but Root respected this decision and didn't call him a dick for it, instead wishing him the best. They all have their degrees of difficulties. What they offer though is pretty much worth accepting and working with. For SaSe and NaNiwa, the work was pretty rough, but boy did they pull through.
Is SaSe as 'difficult' as Nani to work with? He's always struck me as a chilled out kind of guy, met him at Dreamhack last year and had a brief chat. I've heard rumblings that SaSe is perhaps a bit of a lone wolf in terms of how he fits into his teams, which doesn't seem to fit with Liquid's team ethic. It would be perhaps that (if true) that would prevent say, Liquid picking him up
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Canada13389 Posts
Sad to see. Especially since they just expanded into LoL 
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Oh, ffs This is really unfortunate .
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On December 05 2012 12:20 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 12:17 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 05 2012 12:15 Wombat_NI wrote:On December 05 2012 12:04 Torte de Lini wrote:There is almost no reason for at least one of those two not to pick him up. He's also not a Naniwa who is known for being hard to deal with sometimes in a team environment. That isn't a bash at Nani btw, I like Naniwa and feel some of this is somewhat exaggerated. In the case of SaSe: You'd be surprised. Well ok, Major then He's known for being a teamhopper, but yet Root and him were able to coexist perfectly well. He 'teamhopped' over to try and join a Korean team, but Root respected this decision and didn't call him a dick for it, instead wishing him the best. They all have their degrees of difficulties. What they offer though is pretty much worth accepting and working with. For SaSe and NaNiwa, the work was pretty rough, but boy did they pull through. Is SaSe as 'difficult' as Nani to work with? He's always struck me as a chilled out kind of guy, met him at Dreamhack last year and had a brief chat. I've heard rumblings that SaSe is perhaps a bit of a lone wolf in terms of how he fits into his teams, which doesn't seem to fit with Liquid's team ethic. It would be perhaps that (if true) that would prevent say, Liquid picking him up
seemed like Sase was more connected to ST and not Quantic itself.. understandable though as he lived in Korea and the other foreign Quantic members were not on his level
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/sigh
They had by far the most stylish teamshirts!
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Man...... So sad. I followed all of team Vile for so long and thought that the Quantic merger would be a good thing. Hope those guys land on their feet.
Seems so random.
Wow - and I just noticed from liquidpedia that theSTC is there too. Man I feel bad for that guy
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On December 05 2012 12:25 Swish 41 wrote:
/sigh
They had by far the most stylish teamshirts!
For sure, them shirts were sick.
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Really not that big of a surprise. I honestly thought this would come A LOT sooner. With all their past problems, and bad publicity I'm shocked they didn't pull the plug sooner. I'm quite sure the investors weren't getting any profits from the team anyway, so this was the logical choice for them.
I see a couple of their players fading off and not being picked up. But, I really wish them all the best of luck in the future.
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On December 05 2012 12:27 jakethesnake wrote:Man...... So sad. I followed all of team Vile for so long and thought that the Quantic merger would be a good thing. Hope those guys land on their feet. Seems so random. Wow - and I just noticed from liquidpedia that theSTC is there too. Man I feel bad for that guy
It was these were unforeseen circumstances when quantics sponsors pulled out they were left with all these players who they could no longer in good conscious keep on their team when they couldn't pay them.
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very sad, Quantic had lots of players i really like, i wish them all the best in the future! I'm most interested in where Sase will will be going.
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On December 05 2012 12:20 Wombat_NI wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2012 12:17 Torte de Lini wrote:On December 05 2012 12:15 Wombat_NI wrote:On December 05 2012 12:04 Torte de Lini wrote:There is almost no reason for at least one of those two not to pick him up. He's also not a Naniwa who is known for being hard to deal with sometimes in a team environment. That isn't a bash at Nani btw, I like Naniwa and feel some of this is somewhat exaggerated. In the case of SaSe: You'd be surprised. Well ok, Major then He's known for being a teamhopper, but yet Root and him were able to coexist perfectly well. He 'teamhopped' over to try and join a Korean team, but Root respected this decision and didn't call him a dick for it, instead wishing him the best. They all have their degrees of difficulties. What they offer though is pretty much worth accepting and working with. For SaSe and NaNiwa, the work was pretty rough, but boy did they pull through. Is SaSe as 'difficult' as Nani to work with? He's always struck me as a chilled out kind of guy, met him at Dreamhack last year and had a brief chat. I've heard rumblings that SaSe is perhaps a bit of a lone wolf in terms of how he fits into his teams, which doesn't seem to fit with Liquid's team ethic. It would be perhaps that (if true) that would prevent say, Liquid picking him up
They both had their ups and downs, they treated me very well despite some difficulties (this was before the Vile merge, so it was awhile ago). Sometimes NaNiwa would be difficult, sometimes SaSe was. I've spoke to SaSe a month ago or so and he seems really cheerful and happy where he is, at least enough to really talk to me pleasantly.
Neither SaSe nor NaNiwa talked with the other players.
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This is unfortunate, but I think it was necessary for the overall well being of SC2. There needs to be a culling of these mediocre pros watering down the scene. It's understandable to have the young guys, like Illusion, on the team who are developing, but they shouldn't be the backbone of the team. The team overall is comprised of "also ran's." I wouldn't have predicted any of these players to win a major tournament, much less beat a current GSL player in a BoX. Being selected to be on a pro team should be an extraordinary achievement for a player. They should be freaks of nature as far as gaming goes with skill levels that leave you in awe as a spectator (e.g. SKTRain's 4 pronged DT attack vs Idra). For me, too many people are getting a chance that shouldn't.
That leads into the lack of sponsorship killing the team. I, like some who posted previously, had to Liquidpedia their roster. I only knew Illusion because of his run in one tournament a while ago, Flo because she's a female and Sase because he's friends with Naniwa. My lack of awareness is directly linked to the lack of tournament results. Other than the EG team and Destiny, which are anomalies, the players I know are those that win. Winning seems to be leaps and bounds the best way to get your name and your sponsor's name out there, besides a Hot_Bid interview that is. When you field a team of players that don't really have any tournament success, the chances are few and far between to advertise yourself. But SC2 and eSports are still pretty new to most, hopefully this is just growing pains and in the future things will stabilize so this kind of thing won't happen again.
tldr: good players > win > advertising > happy sponsors > stable team, duh
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On December 05 2012 12:39 black_ICE wrote:
This is unfortunate, but I think it was necessary for the overall well being of SC2. There needs to be a culling of these mediocre pros watering down the scene. It's understandable to have the young guys, like Illusion, on the team who are developing, but they shouldn't be the backbone of the team. The team overall is comprised of "also ran's." I wouldn't have predicted any of these players to win a major tournament, much less beat a current GSL player in a BoX. Being selected to be on a pro team should be an extraordinary achievement for a player. They should be freaks of nature as far as gaming goes with skill levels that leave you in awe as a spectator (e.g. SKTRain's 4 pronged DT attack vs Idra). For me, too many people are getting a chance that shouldn't.
That leads into the lack of sponsorship killing the team. I, like some who posted previously, had to Liquidpedia their roster. I only knew Illusion because of his run in one tournament a while ago, Flo because she's a female and Sase because he's friends with Naniwa. My lack of awareness is directly linked to the lack of tournament results. Other than the EG team and Destiny, which are anomalies, the players I know are those that win. Winning seems to be leaps and bounds the best way to get your name and your sponsor's name out there, besides a Hot_Bid interview that is. When you field a team of players that don't really have any tournament success, the chances are few and far between to advertise yourself. But SC2 and eSports are still pretty new to most, hopefully this is just growing pains and in the future things will stabilize so this kind of thing won't happen again.
tldr: good players > win > advertising > happy sponsors > stable team, duh
lol not only are you a massive dick, but you don't have any idea what you're talking about LOL.
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This is unfortunate, I've always thought of them as one more the more solid teams.
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Best of luck to Hawk, Sase and all the other great Quantic players. It seems so sudden ><
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