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On December 04 2012 05:34 Kakaru2 wrote: MMA 2 times GSL champion? I remember he only won once and got destroyed by Polt the second time.
2nd place in super tournament beat mvp at blizzcon finals beat drg at blizzard cup finals
I agree with the t/z list. For P I'd say MC/TLHero/Parting (will be the only wcs champion for wol ever)/Naniwa (back to back ro8 when the game is that figured out is impressive enough for me, plus has been a top foreigner throughout all of wol). No need to explain Hero, 2 dreamhack wins and having such a unique style of showing that protoss can actually be a skillful race with lots of multitasking is enough.
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Protoss - MC, Rain, Creator, Squirtle
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Terrans : Mvp, MKP, MMA, ThorZaIN. The top 3 is uncontestable, and I put ThorZaIN here because he was the first top foreigner terran, was smart enough to force an unit to be nerfed, and still is a threat to korean players.
Protoss : MC, SeeD, Creator, PartinG : MC no explanation needed. SeeD for being the 2nd protoss to win the GSL, Creator for his clutchness in teamleagues and his TSl win despite his young age. PartinG because of his recent wins and his impressive HTs based PvT from back then. Would have been Squirtle if he didn't kong that many finals.
Zergs : NesTea, DRG, Stephano, Leenock.
NesTea for being the first successful zerg despite his age, DRG for his teamleague dominance and GSL wins, Stephano for him being a top player who can compete with koreans despite being a foreigner, and Leenock for him staying on top for such a long time at a relative young age.
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Terran MVP Has been an amazing player from start to current. Looking unstoppable at times, and deceivingly weak at others, but he's always has had his amazing game sense.
MKP Was very novel that he got foreign sponsorship from Reddit to attent foreign tournaments when he didn't initially do over well. At his best he can destroy anyone and his micro is utterly impressive to watch.
Polt Always brilliant macro and decision making. Can flounder at times, never looks to be the worlds best, but always keeps on providing entertaining games.
Taeja Seems to be very good for on the fly games, such as LAN events or All-kill set up team matches. Wasn't fond of his play when he was on SlayerS as he looked like a poor man's MMA, but since joining Liquid he seems to have become his own person, and now I always expect great games from him.
Protoss MC He has this weird 6th sense for things, especially on when to all-in. His micro used to be second to none, but it has gotten a lot worse recently but he always seems to manage to pull off great victories every now and then. Shame his personality has decreased a lot recently.
Socke Always enjoyed watching his games back in the days when going past 2 bases as a Protoss was a rarity. He was using HT a lot sooner than everyone else when every was still using the "imbalanced" Colossi
Parting Seemed to have come out of nowhere and just started dominating everything and every one. Great micro, great macro, great decision making.
Rain Same as above
Zerg NesTea His planned strategies, meta-game decisions usually decided the outcome of his matches. Never impressive in LAN/on the fly events but was very consistent until the Zerg change to infestors/broodlords. NesTea dominated during the time of Muta/Bane which has been figured out and hasn't had massive success since.
Stephano Try something until it fails, rely on safe/standard games. Possibly the smartest way to play unless he gets figured out.
DRG When he first came on the scene he had a weird style of always going for a macro hatch before a third, and using this extra production for counter attacks and just picked his opponents apart cost effectively until he could crush them. Again he hasn't made the switch from muta/bane to infestor/brood as well as some other Zerg's but he's doing very well.
Leenock Really enjoy his ling use/micro and his ability to adapt and use many strategies and styles of Zerg.
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Terran: MVP, MMA, ThorZain, GoOdy ThorZain because of his TSL3 run where he was basically the first foreigner winning something big including koreans. GoOdy because of his playstyle which was and still is so much different from anyone else.
Protoss: MC, PartinG, HerO, Grubby PartinG because he is probably the best P right now, HerO & Grubby because of their fresh, innovative and macrooriented styles during a time where P is somewhat boring to watch.
Zerg: FruitDealer, Nestea, DRG, Stephano no comment on that.
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Terran : Mvp, MMA, MKP, Polt Protoss : MC, HerO, HuK, PartinG Zerg : NesTea, DRG, Leenock, Stephano
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You only need 4 in total - one from each race!
Nestea for being one of the most successful players for that very long time where Zerg was a joke of a race. His wins always came from being smarter than his opponents and he did what no one else could. You'd always have to have your notepad ready as a Zerg player to copy whatever this guy was doing!
MVP for being the most successful WoL player! Even in the face of an injury this guy still continues to dominate. His ability to win is unmatched ! What a baws!
MC for being the only protoss to ever dominate for a long period of time! He is also a fantastic character and a treat to watch for the fans!
Stephano for being the best and most successful foreigner by far! Despite the fact that the race of foreigners are by far the weakest of all SC2 races, this guy still manages to be one of the best players out there. Truly amazing
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Terran - LG-IMmvp, SlayerSMMA, MarineKingPrime.WE
Protoss - oGsMC, oGsInCa, Liquid'Huk
Zerg - TSL_Fruitdealer, Startale July, LG-IMNestea
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On December 04 2012 05:44 Warlock40 wrote: There can only be three: MVP, Nestea, MC. They're gods of their race, that's undeniable, yes. However we have some noticeable players in 2011 and 2012 as well so you should appreciate them too:D
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MVP, MMA, MKP and Polt. Has to be these. MVP is the best player to play sc2, MMA has lookd invincible like no other at times (except Nestea that one crazy season), MKP has been a great player since the second season of GSL and on his way he has won two MLGs and been to several GSL finals. Polt is a GSL champion and also the one I think is best at adapting to the metagame.
MC, Seed, Parting and Huk. Huk was doing very well while still on TL, In my opinion enough to make a protoss top 4. MC and Seed both GSL-champions, and Parting has beed incredible for some time now.
Nestea, Fruitdealer, Leenock and DRG. While zerg were having trouble during the first seasons of the GSL Fruitdealer and Nestea showed us that the potential of the race was/is enormous. Leenock has always been a good player, and have had several awesome tournament runs. DRG is just awesome. This one was as obvious as the terran one for me.
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On December 04 2012 07:28 o)_Saurus wrote: Terran: MVP, MMA, ThorZain, GoOdy ThorZain because of his TSL3 run where he was basically the first foreigner winning something big including koreans. GoOdy because of his playstyle which was and still is so much different from anyone else.
Protoss: MC, PartinG, HerO, Grubby PartinG because he is probably the best P right now, HerO & Grubby because of their fresh, innovative and macrooriented styles during a time where P is somewhat boring to watch.
Zerg: FruitDealer, Nestea, DRG, Stephano no comment on that. Lol i'm sorry but the real Mt Rushmore includes the likes of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln. Now we are trying to translate the magnitude of those names into SC2 terms...
And you include GoOdy? And Grubby?
I know this is just opinion based but you honestly believe those 2 names deserve to be there? I'm not sure an "interesting" style warrants being named the top of your race. I could play an "interesting" style and never win anything significant. Definitely slot in MKP and Polt in there instead of Tzain and GoOdy. Then stick creator in there maybe?
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On December 04 2012 07:38 bkrow wrote: I know this is just opinion based but you honestly believe those 2 names deserve to be there? I'm not sure an "interesting" style warrants being named the top of your race. I could play an "interesting" style and never win anything significant.
On December 04 2012 06:08 ErAsc2 wrote: Terran: Gretorp, IM mvp, Pain User, polt-prime.
Protoss: MC, EG incontrol, Liquid HuK, Artosis (Socke is close too i suppose).
Zerg: EG idra, fruit-dealer, Day 9, bkrow !
bkrow because of his interesting playstyle. Heh, idk I put you in mine for having an interesting playstyle, guess some think it's enough, some don't.
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I'm a little surprised people didn't put IdrA on their list. Sure, he was never the greatest player, but he is possibly the most famous of all. I would gladly switch Stephano for IdrA if only Stephano wasn't as good as he was.
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same as opener but nestea as terran and protoss because hes nestea damnit!
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terran - mvp, marineking, polt, mma zerg - nestea, drg, leenock, stephano protoss - mc, parting, rain, creator
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I think people are missing out on Tester and Genius for their contribution to modern protoss play.
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polt makes no sense at all after any criterium. stop being so biased towards him, he's not that special. it should be only 3 guys and nobody needs to ask who I mean.
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Also :
Day[9] - Artosis - Tasteless - Apollo
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On December 04 2012 08:40 PhoenixVoid wrote: I'm a little surprised people didn't put IdrA on their list. Sure, he was never the greatest player, but he is possibly the most famous of all. I would gladly switch Stephano for IdrA if only Stephano wasn't as good as he was. I dunno. Stephano had more viewers than IdrA and he is pretty well known. Even some friends of mine who don't play nor follow SC2 have heard of Stephano lol. Sure we are french but it's still impressive.
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On December 04 2012 08:44 Greenei wrote: polt makes no sense at all after any criterium. stop being so biased towards him, he's not that special. it should be only 3 guys and nobody needs to ask who I mean. I've never been his biggest fan, but he is on my list because he is so extremely adaptive and he always finds ways to overcome the odds! He is a multiple champion, and the manner which is destroyed massive favourite MMA in the super tournament was simply breathtaking! Also lets not forget the introduction of a certain raven-push!
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