EPTOn December 04 2012 05:38 Cokefreak wrote:
Terran: BitByBit, Marine, SCV, SCV
Self explanatory~
Terran: BitByBit, Marine, SCV, SCV
Self explanatory~
"rushmore" - thats one funny pun my god :D
Mount Rushmore of Races for Wings of Liberty - Page 11
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thisisonly
Germany5 Posts
"rushmore" - thats one funny pun my god :D | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
Naniwa is the second best foreigner, HerO is an excellent player and fun to watch, and Parting is the best Protoss around currently. | ||
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nichan
United States158 Posts
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fire_brand
Canada1123 Posts
MC (consensus), Hero (near consensus), Creator and Parting. They have led the way in the new wave of Korean tosses and have been copied to no end. And unlike Squirtle have had some success as far as becoming a champion. Huk just missed out, mostly from not really leading the way in anything, but having several tournament wins under his belt. Others: Squirtle, Seed, White-ra. Terran MVP (consensus), Polt (near consensus), MKP although he has fallen off has a few wins and has always been an innovator, and the last one is the toughest. I don't think MMA has quite been as impactful as the other three terrans, definately doesn't have the same wins, and hasn't really been the leading voice in any major meta shift. My other choices are Ryung, Taeja, Bomber and Thorzain. I think Thorzain is the one that makes it. He's had a lot of success and his style, preparation and builds have been widely imitated. Thorzain makes it four. Zerg Nestea (consensus), DRG, Leenock and Stephano who barely squeeks in. DRG was a Zerg hero when heros were scarce. His ZvT has always been exciting and dynamic and his use of muta/ling/bane has been nothing short of revolutionary. Leenock is a winner. Sometimes it's ugly, mindboggling, but he still wins and in some convoluted genius way his unconventional builds and styles work. He's still young so his face should hang around for a while and he'll only get better. He gets a spot. Lastly, squeeky in by the skin of his teeth, Stephano. By no means a veteran of the scene, but a player who has done so much in his short tenure it's almost impossible to keep him out. His often abusive style has changed the meta game forever. That and he has just won so much. On the outside looking in: FD, Dimaga, Idra, Scarlett. | ||
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Hider
Denmark9407 Posts
Fruitdealer didn't win the GSL at a time when nobody thought could beat terran - He won when no terrans knew how to beat zergs at mid/lategame Many people actually forgot where there was a period of roughly 1-2 months where terrans absolutely got owned by zergs and Blizzard considered nerfing banelings as a response to the zerg domination. At the time he won, tanks and reapers had already been nerfed, and he went in as the favourite to play Rainbow. Very quickly his lack of practice showed and he began sucking. I don't think players with that kind of attitude/mediocore accomplishments (relative) should be on the list. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On December 06 2012 07:13 Hider wrote: Just one comment regarding Fruitdealer (because it's almost kind of annoyed me how wrong people are getting the history of sc2). Fruitdealer didn't win the GSL at a time when nobody thought could beat terran - He won when no terrans knew how to beat zergs at mid/lategame Many people actually forgot where there was a period of roughly 1-2 months where terrans absolutely got owned by zergs and Blizzard considered nerfing banelings as a response to the zerg domination. At the time he won, tanks and reapers had already been nerfed, and he went in as the favourite to play Rainbow. Very quickly his lack of practice showed and he began sucking. I don't think players with that kind of attitude/mediocore accomplishments (relative) should be on the list. Dude, lategame was something people were dreaming about when FD was playing this game. x) | ||
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swargula
United States11 Posts
Protoss- MC, Parting, Kiwikaki Zerg- DRG, Leenock, Stephano, Nestea I went in order of Imba, also, Kiwikaki is in their for his metagame changing plays much like why stephano is there as well. Mvp is too damn good to passup and polt is there for raw skill and talent at the game. The most deserving here I'd say would be leenock because I believe he's won the most over the period of time he's played the game. He won way back in beta and he continues to win now. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
In order by race and preference I'd rank them: Terran: #1 Mvp #2 MarineKing #3 MMA #4 Polt Starting with the easy one, there are 4 names that immediately come to mind, Mvp being the obvious first pick, no explanation needed. MKP would come after due to being (on and off) one of the very best players for all of WoL's lifespan. MMA had the most inspiring Terran play I've ever seen during his breakthrough, crushing through in 2011, but sadly has fallen off quite a bit in 2012, no thanks to the SlayerS incident by the way. Polt takes the 4th spot with his big Super Tournament victory and a decent amount of foreign winnings to his name as well. Zerg: #1 Stephano #2 DongRaeGu #3 NesTea #4 Leenock This one should be a 6-man lineup to be honest, but I had to cut someone, so I had to ditch Fruit Dealer, as no matter how iconic he is, he's still nothing but a one-hit wonder that then faded to oblivion. Stephano is... well he's Stephano, not much to say, he essentially represents the foreign hope wherever he goes. Even if NesTea may have more overall winnings with his GSL titles and whatnot, you have to remember that this community is, in the end, foreign, and Stephano does fill a very special role as far as that goes. Also, NesTea may be the god of zerg, but he's fallen off so hard during 2012, whereas DRG has always gotten out of his slumps relatively quickly, therefore I'd put the latter at #2. It's worth clarifying that this is not a list of skill level, but one of iconization, which is why I've been forced to give Stephano quite a boost. Finally, Leenock with his multiple big foreign trophies has to make the 4th spot. I really, really want to put Life in here as well, being the 15 year old Royal Roader and all, and had it been a listing of 2012 alone, he'd be right at the top, but fact of the matter is: I can't really put someone who's been top tier for the last 3 months as the key figure for a 2+ years old game. Sorry :/ Protoss: #1 MC #2 PartinG #3 HerO #4 NaNiWa Honestly MC is the only one really deserving to be mentioned, but PartinG will have to take second with the ridiculous amount of money he's won lately, combined with perhaps the greatest personality in the scene and becoming the world champion. HerO has been top tier for quite a while longer, and has won more tournaments, but that alone is not enough to take PartinG's #2 spot. 4th spot is a tossup (literally), I chose Nani as he's won consistantly for a long time, and actually did really well in GSL the time he was there. One might as well put HuK in there instead, but I'd rather not, also Squirtle just doesn't seem to have luck on his side when it really matters, and Rain is, despite blowing everyone away with his play, still such a recent addition to the toss powerhouse roster that you can't really mention him that noteably for all of Wings of Liberty, when he's hardly been playing it. To expand on your concept a bit though, I thought I could combine the above listings and create a new top 4 for any race, which would look like this: All: #1 Mvp #2 MC #3 Stephano #4 MarineKing Mvp, 4-time GSL champion, 2-time GSL runner-up, and winner of numerous different foreign tournaments as well, being the role model for just about every SC2 terran in the world. I'm honestly not really a fan, but I'm not going to argue with facts. MC has the most prize winnings in the world, however the gap is really small down to Mvp, but his road there has generally not been quite as hard. That being said, the pair of them are the clear winners of the honors of standing atop Mount Rushmore, regardless of whom you'd prefer as the #1. Stephano would not be what he is in the eyes of the community had he been born a Korean, but the simple truth is: he's the best foreigner on the planet, that's a fact, and he's been so for a long time now. He's also a drama magnet, which, despite normally hurting him, does put him even more in the spotlight. You have to admit that no matter what your angle is on the issue, Stephano will always be one of the players you think of the very first when it comes to these kinds of polls, and for that, he should be remembered for it in return. Finally, MKP has to make it in the top 4 in last place, for being such a likeable human being that's been performing strongly for over 2 years now, even if he's been slumping here and there, he's always bounced back and kept coming back for more. My 2 cents on the matter, wasn't intending it to go on this long, but I enjoyed discussing it with myself, so there ya' have it ^^ | ||
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Kontys
Finland659 Posts
MVP for Terran, no way around him. 6 time finalist, 4 time champion. Add to that a respectable bunch of foreign tournament victories.. (victories won at an outstanding rate versus times participated). Also, the highest earning player in SC2 right now. So, T or P, no contest. The facts are just not there to claim anyone else for the throne. But Zerg, now that's something else to fight over. I don't think you can nominate any of them without there being outstanding counterarguments to nominating him. | ||
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Melwach
Germany176 Posts
Protoss: MC, HerO, HuK, ? Zerg: DRG, Stephano, NesTea Dimaga (I had so much fun cheering for him, so it's just a personal Mt. Rushmore  ) | ||
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Diks
Belgium1880 Posts
Terran : Jinro, Boxer, MKP, MVP Protoss : WhiteRa, MC, Huk, Hero, Zerg : FruitDealer, Nestea, DRG, Stephano | ||
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RanDomFox
United States84 Posts
T-Ryung, MKP, Polt, Innovation P- Creator, HerO, Parting, ? Z- Sniper, Hyun, Life, Leenock if i personally had a mountain, i'd only carve a huge Boxer into it :D | ||
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Kontys
Finland659 Posts
On December 06 2012 07:13 Hider wrote: Just one comment regarding Fruitdealer (because it's almost kind of annoyed me how wrong people are getting the history of sc2). Fruitdealer didn't win the GSL at a time when nobody thought could beat terran - He won when no terrans knew how to beat zergs at mid/lategame Uhh.. no. It was the atrocious map imbalance that made Terran absurdly overpowered. FruitDealer overcame that in a blizzard of glory, through beautiful strategic game play and decision making better detailed elsewhere. Just consider he was alone in the top 16 with 15 terrans and you realize how incredulous your statement that Zerg was OP then is. | ||
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Xpace
United States2209 Posts
On December 04 2012 15:06 Femari wrote: Um, who was the 6th bonjwa then? Boxer -> Nada - > oov -> sAviOr -> Flash -> ??? -> Mvp July Edit: Unofficially, of course. | ||
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revel8
United Kingdom3022 Posts
I think we can look back and assess the WOL era more accurately when it has completed. | ||
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Ilverin
United States19 Posts
Terran - Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, Polt Zerg - NesTea, Stephano, DongRaeGu, Leenock The fourth protoss is the only hard determination, but who are you going to put instead of MaNa? Really only Rain, and if WoL goes on for much longer, Rain may pass MaNa in achievements. (For now, though, MaNa objectively has more achievements). | ||
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A Wet Shamwow
United States1590 Posts
On December 06 2012 09:07 revel8 wrote: I like the theory of this idea, but I think it is a bit premature. WOL still has 4 months to go. Lots of SC2 tournaments still to play. Parting and Hero have had a really good month, Life and Leenock also excellent recently. Who knows what will happen before HOTS comes in? If you had attempted this 4 months ago, Life, Creator, Taeja, Parting and Rain would not have even been in this discussion. A lot can happen in 4 months. I think we can look back and assess the WOL era more accurately when it has completed. Not all four months are created the same, the tournament season has pretty much ended at this time of year. | ||
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Kanaz
Denmark658 Posts
Terran - Jinro, MVP, MMA, Polt Zerg - NesTea, Stephano, Dongraegu, Leenock Protoss - MC, Naniwa, Parting, Hero | ||
Darkhorse
United States23455 Posts
Protoss - MC, HerO, Squirtle, Creator Zerg - Nestea, DRG, Leenock, Life | ||
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
No one else. Easy. | ||
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