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SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
December 06 2012 08:49 GMT
#241
For Protoss:
MC,Hero,PartinG,Rain
I am Godzilla You are Japan
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
December 06 2012 08:50 GMT
#242
On December 04 2012 05:50 rd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2012 05:44 Warlock40 wrote:
There can only be three: MVP, Nestea, MC.


For the sake of four, MKP.

DRG is more worthy than MKP.
playnice
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia302 Posts
December 06 2012 08:51 GMT
#243
Terran: Mvp, MMA, MarineKing, Mvp
The undisputed champ, the people's champ, the popular, and the rise-again champ

Protoss: MC, Naniwa, Hero, Parting,
From Aiur with attitude: Boss, Villain, Emo, Soul

Zerg: Fruitdealer, Nestea, DRG, Patch
The First, the Only, the Prodigy, and the rest(with apologies to Life).

Well these are who I considered to who have the most impact in the WoL scene.
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
December 06 2012 09:47 GMT
#244
On December 06 2012 07:43 HaXXspetten wrote:
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Well this seems like a rapidly growing thread, these are always fun to do ^^
In order by race and preference I'd rank them:

Terran:
#1 Mvp
#2 MarineKing
#3 MMA
#4 Polt

Starting with the easy one, there are 4 names that immediately come to mind, Mvp being the obvious first pick, no explanation needed. MKP would come after due to being (on and off) one of the very best players for all of WoL's lifespan. MMA had the most inspiring Terran play I've ever seen during his breakthrough, crushing through in 2011, but sadly has fallen off quite a bit in 2012, no thanks to the SlayerS incident by the way. Polt takes the 4th spot with his big Super Tournament victory and a decent amount of foreign winnings to his name as well.

Zerg:
#1 Stephano
#2 DongRaeGu
#3 NesTea
#4 Leenock

This one should be a 6-man lineup to be honest, but I had to cut someone, so I had to ditch Fruit Dealer, as no matter how iconic he is, he's still nothing but a one-hit wonder that then faded to oblivion. Stephano is... well he's Stephano, not much to say, he essentially represents the foreign hope wherever he goes. Even if NesTea may have more overall winnings with his GSL titles and whatnot, you have to remember that this community is, in the end, foreign, and Stephano does fill a very special role as far as that goes. Also, NesTea may be the god of zerg, but he's fallen off so hard during 2012, whereas DRG has always gotten out of his slumps relatively quickly, therefore I'd put the latter at #2. It's worth clarifying that this is not a list of skill level, but one of iconization, which is why I've been forced to give Stephano quite a boost. Finally, Leenock with his multiple big foreign trophies has to make the 4th spot. I really, really want to put Life in here as well, being the 15 year old Royal Roader and all, and had it been a listing of 2012 alone, he'd be right at the top, but fact of the matter is: I can't really put someone who's been top tier for the last 3 months as the key figure for a 2+ years old game. Sorry :/

Protoss:
#1 MC
#2 PartinG
#3 HerO
#4 NaNiWa

Honestly MC is the only one really deserving to be mentioned, but PartinG will have to take second with the ridiculous amount of money he's won lately, combined with perhaps the greatest personality in the scene and becoming the world champion. HerO has been top tier for quite a while longer, and has won more tournaments, but that alone is not enough to take PartinG's #2 spot. 4th spot is a tossup (literally), I chose Nani as he's won consistantly for a long time, and actually did really well in GSL the time he was there. One might as well put HuK in there instead, but I'd rather not, also Squirtle just doesn't seem to have luck on his side when it really matters, and Rain is, despite blowing everyone away with his play, still such a recent addition to the toss powerhouse roster that you can't really mention him that noteably for all of Wings of Liberty, when he's hardly been playing it.


To expand on your concept a bit though, I thought I could combine the above listings and create a new top 4 for any race, which would look like this:

All:
#1 Mvp
#2 MC
#3 Stephano
#4 MarineKing

Mvp, 4-time GSL champion, 2-time GSL runner-up, and winner of numerous different foreign tournaments as well, being the role model for just about every SC2 terran in the world. I'm honestly not really a fan, but I'm not going to argue with facts. MC has the most prize winnings in the world, however the gap is really small down to Mvp, but his road there has generally not been quite as hard. That being said, the pair of them are the clear winners of the honors of standing atop Mount Rushmore, regardless of whom you'd prefer as the #1. Stephano would not be what he is in the eyes of the community had he been born a Korean, but the simple truth is: he's the best foreigner on the planet, that's a fact, and he's been so for a long time now. He's also a drama magnet, which, despite normally hurting him, does put him even more in the spotlight. You have to admit that no matter what your angle is on the issue, Stephano will always be one of the players you think of the very first when it comes to these kinds of polls, and for that, he should be remembered for it in return. Finally, MKP has to make it in the top 4 in last place, for being such a likeable human being that's been performing strongly for over 2 years now, even if he's been slumping here and there, he's always bounced back and kept coming back for more.


My 2 cents on the matter, wasn't intending it to go on this long, but I enjoyed discussing it with myself, so there ya' have it
^^

(Spoilered for length of quote). You say Life doesn't derserve to be in it because his success has only come in the last 3 months but then your argument for Parting makes it based on personality and his success in the last couple of months I guess this shows how much harder it is to make the zerg 4 than protoss. There have been far more superstar zerg players.

On December 06 2012 17:14 Goshdarnit wrote:
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On December 04 2012 05:45 Forikorder wrote:
On December 04 2012 05:30 Fionn wrote:
With the end of WoL only a few months away, who would you put on your Mount Rushmore for each race when we think back to the days of Wings of Liberty?

For me, I'd go:

Terran: Mvp, MMA, Polt, MarineKing

Probably the easiest for me. The four Terrans with the most money, and they've all either won a GSL title or been in a lot of them. Mvp, Polt and MKP have been around the top of SC2 since the start of SC2, and MMA came on a bit later to win a few GSTL's and two GSL's.

Protoss: MC, ?, ?, ?

Yeah, I have no clue. MC and three guys. There are tons of guys you could put there. You figure it out.

Zerg: FruitDealer, Nestea, Leenock, Stephano

FruitDealer for being the George Washington of SC2, Nestea for being Nestea, Leenock for his various title wins throughout the life of Wings, and Stephano for his countless accomplishments.


parting and seed at least deserve a spot and HuK for being the only foreign toss you really do well in GSL for a good amount of time

Leenock doesnt deserve that spot DRG deserves it alot more or life since hes the first ever royal roader

DRG has more a claim than Life but I still put leenock above him. DRG was in the shadows for a while and he seemed to peak back early this year. Leenock has been in code S practically every season whilst winning numerous tournaments around the globe and he only looks to be getting stronger or at least is able to look like a top contender for any title he enters. There were only a couple of brief periods when Leenock looked remotely vulnerable. The kid is a monster and a constant symbol for zerg hope, when I look at DRG right now I do not think one can say the same (even though he is still a great player).

I don't think Leenock ever really had a period where he looked dominant. He has been exceptional of late but has not always been that way. I do think DRG's peak was higher. Also, Leenock has looked very vulnerable sometimes. There was one period where he struggled a lot against Protoss.
RParks42
Profile Joined December 2012
United States77 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 10:08:11
December 06 2012 10:07 GMT
#245
Terran: MVP, MMA, Polt, MKP (four most prolific Terrans of all-time)

Protoss: MC, Seed, Parting, Creator (Champions of GSL + WCS and Creator reinvented PvT, so for me Creator>Rain)

Zerg: FruitDealer, NesTea, DRG, Life (FD was below average but won the first championship, best strategic Zerg ever, best mechanical Zerg ever, highest level in my opinion of Zerg ever played, and not just strictly because of Infestor)

All-Time: MVP, NesTea, MC, MMA (not much explanation needed hopefully)
I enjoy some good dome occasionally
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
December 07 2012 23:12 GMT
#246
On December 06 2012 17:46 K3Nyy wrote:
Just wondering but why do most of you guys favor Polt over Bomber? Bomber used to be a top tier player for the longest time right behind Mvp.

Bomber has been the best player in the world for one game here and there.

He's the most inconsistent player I can think of in SC2...
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-07 23:25:35
December 07 2012 23:19 GMT
#247
Wtf? Theres people putting HuK ahead of Genius? lol..

Protoss:

1. MC

2. Genius

3. Squirtle/PartinG (can't decide whether squirtle or parting in last slot yet).

Honorable mention to Naniwa and HerO, but I wouldn't quite put them up there with the other 3.

Still way too many people forgetting Genius in this thread. Made Code S finals, put out an insane run against DRG in the finals.. And was one of those players that consistently made Code S.
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
December 07 2012 23:21 GMT
#248
On December 06 2012 17:39 Vindicare605 wrote:
I'm sorry you guys but there's no way you can have a Mount Zergmore without Fruitdealer on it.

He was the George Washington of Zerg. He won the first GSL when EVERYONE was convinced Zerg was completely underpowered, he introduced the first major blockbuster playstyle in SC2 history (the Baneling Carpetbomb)

He's the first GSL Champion EVER.

I know that there are Zergs now with more titles, or more money and there's probably several that are straight up better than him, but there's no denying the impact that Fruitdealer has had on SC2's history. Only Nestea is a more storied player of that race.

Fruitdealer and Nestea are on mount Zergmore, That isn't debatable. Argue how you want about the other 2 spots, but those two spots are set in stone as far as I'm concerned.

Beating awesome opponents like Inca in PvZ... and LiveForever! And then Rainbow choked in the finals (not that beating Rainbow is an accomplishment anyway)

Rainbow went Mech again a guy known for rushing ultras. Missing a nudys worm that was clearly visible. And of course the famous Scrap Station game where he took an island expand against mutas. Please, Fruitdealer was Cool (get it?) and all but no way does he belong anywhere near Nestea on the awesome scale. Or near DRG, Leenock, etc. for that matter.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 19:42:22
December 08 2012 19:41 GMT
#249
FruitDealer is still one of the most iconic players Starcraft 2 ever had.

You can watch early Boxer's Brood War games as well, and they (in particular the way his opponents played) are hilarious to say the least, but nobody would ever consider leaving him out of the Terran lineup of this kind, and easily will put him next to Flash.
Gorlin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2753 Posts
December 08 2012 20:05 GMT
#250
Terran- Mvp, MMA, MarineKing. Last spot is tough between Polt and Taeja. I think I'd lean towards Polt though.
Protoss- MC, Parting, Hero. Once again, hard to say. Contenders, I think, are Huk, Naniwa, and Squirtle. I think I'd give the edge to Huk since he was one of the very few Protosses to stay at the top for the entirety of 2010 and 2011.
Zerg- Nestea, DongRaeGu, Leenock, Stephano. I get wanting Fruitdealer, but it's hard to justify taking any of these four off in his favor.

For one for all the races, Mvp, Nestea, and MC obviously. Last spot between MMA, DongRaeGu, and Marineking. Perhaps it's just my inner fan speaking, but I'd give it to MMA. DongRaeGu would be my next choice.
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
December 08 2012 20:12 GMT
#251
Terran: Everyone knows why MVP, MMA, MKP, and Polt (Bomber can be inserted into here too)
Protoss: MC, Parting, Rain (come on guys), Squirtle (Creator can be inserted into here too)
Zerg: DRG, Life, Leenock, Stephano (Nestea is out)
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
December 08 2012 20:29 GMT
#252
T: MMA MVP MKP Polt
P: MC Parting HerO ?
Z: FD Nestea DRG Stephano

I don't really know who the 4th Protoss is. Maybe CreatorPrime? Maybe HuK 2010/2011.

Stephano over Leenock/Life simply because he also introduced a new style of playing. I don't think Stephano was at any point superior to Leenock.
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