On December 06 2012 12:06 Hall0wed wrote:
Bomber, Squirtle, Parting, and DRG
No one else. Easy.
Bomber, Squirtle, Parting, and DRG
No one else. Easy.
Startale, Startale, Startale, MVP?
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On December 06 2012 12:06 Hall0wed wrote: Bomber, Squirtle, Parting, and DRG No one else. Easy. Startale, Startale, Startale, MVP? | ||
CeriseCherries
6170 Posts
On December 06 2012 07:17 Noocta wrote: Show nested quote + On December 06 2012 07:13 Hider wrote: Just one comment regarding Fruitdealer (because it's almost kind of annoyed me how wrong people are getting the history of sc2). Fruitdealer didn't win the GSL at a time when nobody thought could beat terran - He won when no terrans knew how to beat zergs at mid/lategame Many people actually forgot where there was a period of roughly 1-2 months where terrans absolutely got owned by zergs and Blizzard considered nerfing banelings as a response to the zerg domination. At the time he won, tanks and reapers had already been nerfed, and he went in as the favourite to play Rainbow. Very quickly his lack of practice showed and he began sucking. I don't think players with that kind of attitude/mediocore accomplishments (relative) should be on the list. Dude, lategame was something people were dreaming about when FD was playing this game. x) Age of darkness for Zergs -_- I wonder what my opponent is doing? Oh look 2rax scv pull again. Great thing our maps make sure the enemies base is actually on top of mine, rush distance: almost 0 | ||
Markwerf
Netherlands3728 Posts
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Australia54783 Posts
On December 06 2012 12:06 Hall0wed wrote: Bomber, Squirtle, Parting, and DRG No one else. Easy. I sense bias ![]() | ||
andrea20
Canada441 Posts
Clide and Jinro were loved while they were active, while MVP and MarineKing were consistently good. Jinro at one point was considered one of the top 5 players in the world, a peak that no other foreigner has reached since. Clide could never reach the top, but he was the only Terran who refused to cheese during a time where reapers could have nitro packs without a factory. And of course, CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE~ Zerg: FruitDealer, Nestea, Leenock, July FruitDealer started it all. Nestea needs no explanation, while Leenock showed that someone could greatly improve over time. July was the most successful of the BW legends who transferred over early, slightly edging out Nada. He's still active but I don't think he'll ever reach new success again. Protoss: MC, HongUn, Genius, Inca HongUn is the most underrated WoL player of all-time, and the only one to pull off carrier wins in GSL multiple times. Two GSL Ro4 and Ro8, yet he was never picked by the fans to represent Korea in the world championship. Genius and Inca, despite being inconsistent at times, always stuck around in Code S. Looking at it based on history. Also, I only considered active players that were completely dominant because I wanted to include some great retired players in their time, who will be forgotten by most after HotS comes out. Sure, Stephano and DRG are good, but they'll have plenty of time to further carve out their careers. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On December 06 2012 12:19 opterown wrote: Show nested quote + On December 06 2012 12:06 Hall0wed wrote: Bomber, Squirtle, Parting, and DRG No one else. Easy. I sense bias ![]() it's a list of players that lost tournaments they should have won | ||
Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
On December 06 2012 12:10 TommyP wrote: Show nested quote + On December 06 2012 12:06 Hall0wed wrote: Bomber, Squirtle, Parting, and DRG No one else. Easy. Startale, Startale, Startale, MVP? Yeah you know, keeping it a little balanced. I should add that I gave IM.MVP some strong consideration, but in the end decided to keep it at 4. On December 06 2012 12:59 Shellshock1122 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 06 2012 12:19 opterown wrote: On December 06 2012 12:06 Hall0wed wrote: Bomber, Squirtle, Parting, and DRG No one else. Easy. I sense bias ![]() it's a list of players that lost tournaments they should have won Except Parting of course... if he wins GF then he is way up there on the WoL list. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On December 06 2012 13:12 Hall0wed wrote: Show nested quote + On December 06 2012 12:10 TommyP wrote: On December 06 2012 12:06 Hall0wed wrote: Bomber, Squirtle, Parting, and DRG No one else. Easy. Startale, Startale, Startale, MVP? Yeah you know, keeping it a little balanced. I should add that I gave IM.MVP some strong consideration, but in the end decided to keep it at 4. Show nested quote + On December 06 2012 12:59 Shellshock1122 wrote: On December 06 2012 12:19 opterown wrote: On December 06 2012 12:06 Hall0wed wrote: Bomber, Squirtle, Parting, and DRG No one else. Easy. I sense bias ![]() it's a list of players that lost tournaments they should have won Except Parting of course... if he wins GF then he is way up there on the WoL list. That's true. He's playing very well lately and is definitely a contender for the title with his soul powers | ||
DiuLaSing
Hong Kong225 Posts
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Seanly
Canada73 Posts
MVP: Pretty obvious Jinro: The original foreigner hope! MKP: Made a HUGE splash on the scene with marine micro (and being foxer) MMA: Boxer's son...those were the days Ptoss: MC, Huk, HerO, Puzzle MC: Makes sense Huk: Another early foreigner hope (ty liquid) HerO: One of the most entertaining toss' to watch out there Puzzle: The guy is just awesome Zerg: Nestea, Kyrix, Idra, July Nestea: IMNESTEEEEEAAAAAAAAA Kyrix: made for some pretty damn exciting games (KyrixvsMKP GSL) Idra: May not be placing the same now but in the early days there was nothing more exciting than rooting for Idra July: Boss in BW. Boss in SC2. Not much else to say Needless to say most of my choices were based off of the players initial impact on the scene, but there may have been a lot of bias involved as well :D:D:D | ||
itkovian
United States1763 Posts
I've been away from the scene for half a year, so I can look at the scene in retrospect, and chose the faces that stick out most in my mind. Rather than quantitatively how good they've done, mine are based on their image and how much of an icon they seem. Terran: MVP, MMA, Thorzain, Jinro Protoss: MC, Naniwa, Huk, Incontrol Zerg: Nestea, Stephano, Idra, Destiny | ||
Goshdarnit
United States540 Posts
On December 04 2012 05:45 Forikorder wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2012 05:30 Fionn wrote: With the end of WoL only a few months away, who would you put on your Mount Rushmore for each race when we think back to the days of Wings of Liberty? For me, I'd go: Terran: Mvp, MMA, Polt, MarineKing Probably the easiest for me. The four Terrans with the most money, and they've all either won a GSL title or been in a lot of them. Mvp, Polt and MKP have been around the top of SC2 since the start of SC2, and MMA came on a bit later to win a few GSTL's and two GSL's. Protoss: MC, ?, ?, ? Yeah, I have no clue. MC and three guys. There are tons of guys you could put there. You figure it out. Zerg: FruitDealer, Nestea, Leenock, Stephano FruitDealer for being the George Washington of SC2, Nestea for being Nestea, Leenock for his various title wins throughout the life of Wings, and Stephano for his countless accomplishments. parting and seed at least deserve a spot and HuK for being the only foreign toss you really do well in GSL for a good amount of time Leenock doesnt deserve that spot DRG deserves it alot more or life since hes the first ever royal roader I don't see how Life could be placed higher than leenock. I love them both, but life has only been really around for a year and he only broke into individual fame this summer. Leenock has been a consistent top player and role model for zergs for years now. DRG has more a claim than Life but I still put leenock above him. DRG was in the shadows for a while and he seemed to peak back early this year. Leenock has been in code S practically every season whilst winning numerous tournaments around the globe and he only looks to be getting stronger or at least is able to look like a top contender for any title he enters. There were only a couple of brief periods when Leenock looked remotely vulnerable. The kid is a monster and a constant symbol for zerg hope, when I look at DRG right now I do not think one can say the same (even though he is still a great player). My picks: Terran: MVP, Marineking, Polt, MMA Protoss: MC, Parting, Squirtle, HuK (foreigner bias, this should probably be creator) (also ST bias, but yeah Squirtle innovates very often) Zerg: Fruitdealer (you had to be there during season 1...), Nestea, Stephano, Leenock | ||
rd
United States2586 Posts
On December 06 2012 12:57 andrea20 wrote: Terran: MVP, MarineKing, Clide, Jinro Clide and Jinro were loved while they were active, while MVP and MarineKing were consistently good. Jinro at one point was considered one of the top 5 players in the world, a peak that no other foreigner has reached since. Clide could never reach the top, but he was the only Terran who refused to cheese during a time where reapers could have nitro packs without a factory. And of course, CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE~ Zerg: FruitDealer, Nestea, Leenock, July FruitDealer started it all. Nestea needs no explanation, while Leenock showed that someone could greatly improve over time. July was the most successful of the BW legends who transferred over early, slightly edging out Nada. He's still active but I don't think he'll ever reach new success again. Protoss: MC, HongUn, Genius, Inca HongUn is the most underrated WoL player of all-time, and the only one to pull off carrier wins in GSL multiple times. Two GSL Ro4 and Ro8, yet he was never picked by the fans to represent Korea in the world championship. Genius and Inca, despite being inconsistent at times, always stuck around in Code S. Looking at it based on history. Also, I only considered active players that were completely dominant because I wanted to include some great retired players in their time, who will be forgotten by most after HotS comes out. Sure, Stephano and DRG are good, but they'll have plenty of time to further carve out their careers. HuK hit a similar peak when he went on a tear in top 8 code S, an MLG championship and an HSC. | ||
RPR_Tempest
Australia7795 Posts
Zerg: FruitDealer, NesTea, DongRaeGu, Life (Really wanted to put Stephano on here) Protoss: MC, HuK, PartinG, Rain | ||
Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
FruitDealer Nestea DRG Leenock Genius MC Hero Parting | ||
Goshdarnit
United States540 Posts
On December 06 2012 17:14 Goshdarnit wrote: Show nested quote + On December 04 2012 05:45 Forikorder wrote: On December 04 2012 05:30 Fionn wrote: With the end of WoL only a few months away, who would you put on your Mount Rushmore for each race when we think back to the days of Wings of Liberty? For me, I'd go: Terran: Mvp, MMA, Polt, MarineKing Probably the easiest for me. The four Terrans with the most money, and they've all either won a GSL title or been in a lot of them. Mvp, Polt and MKP have been around the top of SC2 since the start of SC2, and MMA came on a bit later to win a few GSTL's and two GSL's. Protoss: MC, ?, ?, ? Yeah, I have no clue. MC and three guys. There are tons of guys you could put there. You figure it out. Zerg: FruitDealer, Nestea, Leenock, Stephano FruitDealer for being the George Washington of SC2, Nestea for being Nestea, Leenock for his various title wins throughout the life of Wings, and Stephano for his countless accomplishments. parting and seed at least deserve a spot and HuK for being the only foreign toss you really do well in GSL for a good amount of time Leenock doesnt deserve that spot DRG deserves it alot more or life since hes the first ever royal roader I don't see how Life could be placed higher than leenock. I love them both, but life has only been really around for a year and he only broke into individual fame this summer. Leenock has been a consistent top player and role model for zergs for years now. DRG has more a claim than Life but I still put leenock above him. DRG was in the shadows for a while and he seemed to peak back early this year. Leenock has been in code S practically every season whilst winning numerous tournaments around the globe and he only looks to be getting stronger or at least is able to look like a top contender for any title he enters. There were only a couple of brief periods when Leenock looked remotely vulnerable. The kid is a monster and a constant symbol for zerg hope, when I look at DRG right now I do not think one can say the same (even though he is still a great player). My picks: Terran: MVP, Marineking, Polt, MMA Protoss: MC, Parting, Squirtle, HuK (foreigner bias, this should probably be creator) (also ST bias, but yeah Squirtle innovates very often) Zerg: Fruitdealer (you had to be there during season 1...), Nestea, Stephano, Leenock Also I want to mention top 4 all around choices (saw in someone else's post) #1 MVP #2 Nestea #3 MC #4 Stephano (foreigner hope bonus points, not my favorite zerg) Also I want to mention that Whitera should probably have been on my original list instead of anyone but MC. He is a pillar of the community, an innovator for protoss, and was good last year. In terms of influence he is huge. | ||
Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
T: Mvp, MKP, MMA, Jinro Z: FruitDealer, NesTea, DRG, IdrA P: MC, Genius, Squirtle, HuK | ||
Gihi
384 Posts
Terran: Mvp, MMA, MarineKing Ah, Mvp and his dominance, MMA being the kryptonite. Boy I'd love if Mvp his wrists get all patched up and MMA finds the discipline to practice like before again.. Although from his interviews he doesn't seem too engaged about practicing like before plus he doesn't have a personal coach anymore. MKP his consistency + super strong run at the start of 2012 looking almost unbeatable for a month or 2 till queens got patched certainly puts him on the list. If it wasn't for Mvp this guy would have had his fair share of GSL titles. Protoss: MC, Parting? MC has always been my favorite player, from his 4gates to his 2base all-ins to his insane late game, he's always been the best protoss. Seed cheesed him from his third GSL title, and atm Creator & Parting are getting stronger results but I have full confidence he will be back. He's only won a big tournament recently but I remember him and Squirtle making me think psi storm was imba ^^ I'd add Squirtle as well but he hasn't really won anything :[ Zerg: FruitDealer, Nestea and recently Leenock. FruitDealer in 2010 need I say more? Best plays came from him, so sad to see him go. Nestea being Nestea, I wonder if he'll get back to it once he isn't so busy with esf stuff. Maybe in HoTS when infestors are a bit less OP and mutalisks become viable again? Nestea always shined with muta ling bane. Life is good as well recently (As are many zergs...), but Leenock has been consistent over the years and he's showing great improvement lately! For foreigners I'd go with Stephano, Huk and Nerchio. | ||
Vindicare605
United States16032 Posts
He was the George Washington of Zerg. He won the first GSL when EVERYONE was convinced Zerg was completely underpowered, he introduced the first major blockbuster playstyle in SC2 history (the Baneling Carpetbomb) He's the first GSL Champion EVER. I know that there are Zergs now with more titles, or more money and there's probably several that are straight up better than him, but there's no denying the impact that Fruitdealer has had on SC2's history. Only Nestea is a more storied player of that race. Fruitdealer and Nestea are on mount Zergmore, That isn't debatable. Argue how you want about the other 2 spots, but those two spots are set in stone as far as I'm concerned. | ||
K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
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