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Mount Rushmore of Races for Wings of Liberty - Page 6
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Fall.182
United States126 Posts
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
Terran: Mvp, MMA, MKP and Polt. I don't think there's gonna be much difference there for most people. Protoss: MC, Seed, PartinG, Squirtle. This was a lot more difficult. MC is obvious, Seed is one of the only two protoss GSL champions, PartinG's just won TWO world championships, and Squirtle's probably one of the most solid protoss out there. Zerg: FruitDealer, Nestea, DRG and Leenock. I'd put Stephano up there, but I'm not going to give him charity just because he happens to be an excellent foreign Zerg. Both DRG and Leenock have been incredibly successful, and I can't justify not giving them a spot. | ||
Waxangel
United States33486 Posts
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On December 04 2012 12:13 Waxangel wrote: DRG considerably ahead of Leenock Leenock=2nd GSL, IPL, MLG x2 and some world esports masters thingy, GSTL champ Best games played against Jjakji..? DRG=GSL champ (this might be the biggest reason), 2nd GSL(Blizzard Cup), MLG x2, 2nd OSL, DH, IEM, arguably best GSTL player ever + GSTL champ plus epic rivalries with MMA and MKP, played some of the most historic games in sc2 Not only are DRG's accomplishments better, i think the rivalries (and being GSL champ) are what really puts DRG over Leenock. Leenock is hotter right now, but he's better with Infestors, DRG better with mutalisks hehe Im kind of biased, but I think im right, but dont get me wrong both are Top 5 Zergs imo (Leenock number 2 in my book behind Sniper at least for a few weeks lol) Plus Leenock is a teddy bear that did Gangnam Style once DRG speaks English, dances like a zergling, has a pretty girlfriend, and turned down Boxer. | ||
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Seldentar
United States888 Posts
On December 04 2012 12:27 TommyP wrote: Leenock=2nd GSL, IPL, MLG x2 and some world esports masters thingy, GSTL champ Best games played against Jjakji..? DRG=GSL champ (this might be the biggest reason), 2nd GSL(Blizzard Cup), MLG x2, 2nd OSL, DH, IEM, arguably best GSTL player ever + GSTL champ plus epic rivalries with MMA and MKP, played some of the most historic games in sc2 Not only are DRG's accomplishments better, i think the rivalries (and being GSL champ) are what really puts DRG over Leenock. Leenock is hotter right now, but he's better with Infestors, DRG better with mutalisks hehe Im kind of biased, but I think im right, but dont get me wrong both are Top 5 Zergs imo (Leenock number 2 in my book behind Sniper at least for a few weeks lol) Plus Leenock is a teddy bear that did Gangnam Style once DRG speaks English, dances like a zergling, has a pretty girlfriend, and turned down Boxer. Everybody thinks they're right :D I know what you're saying though and I agree DRG is better. Good to see a lot of people in this thread remembering the past, not just who is hot now. I remember back in early or mid 2011 before anyone knew who Stephano was, I was thinking wow this guy has a few kinks in his play (back then he did, being new to SC2) but he looks really fucking good. I figured he would emerge as a star at some point if he practiced seriously. His first notable result was beating HuK in Homestory cup and he was the first player I ever saw go heavy roach infestor. Nobody was using infestors back then, and he made it look unbeatable. Way ahead of his time. To me he's clearly one of the most innovative zergs in the history of SC2. Not sure how I got on this short Stephano rant but whatever, lol. | ||
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Taefox
1533 Posts
Protoss: MC, PartinG, Genius and Seed Zerg: FruitDealer, Leenock, Stephano and NesTea My heart + Show Spoiler + Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp Mvp v Mvp Mvp Mvp | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
i would put him above leenock | ||
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Benjamin99
4176 Posts
Toss: MC,Squirtle,Genius,Rain Zerg: Nestea,DRG,Stephano,Leenock | ||
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Entirety
1423 Posts
Mvp, MarineKing, MMA, Polt Protoss MC, PartinG, Squirtle, Seed/HerO (I'm leaning towards HerO actually.) Zerg NesTea, DongRaeGu, Leenock, Stephano Overall Mvp, NesTea, MC, MarineKing Although Mvp, Mvp, Mvp, Mvp sounds about right | ||
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VoirDire
Sweden1923 Posts
Protoss: MC, Parting, Hero, Creator Zerg: Nestea, Stephano, DRG, Leenock | ||
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RoboBob
United States798 Posts
Terran: MVP MKP MMA. Polt is up there, but has been very streaky...most of his big wins were in Korean-light tournaments. Taeja is very close to being up there, but we'll see if Flash gets there first. MMA has been down lately, but he had such a strong history in 2011 that he's earned that spot imo. Zerg: Nestea DRG Leenock. Not sure why people are putting Fruitdealer here, he only won 1 GSL and it was the least competitive one. I don't think Stephano has earned a place there yet, but he might in the future. Protoss: MC...and that's it. All the other Protoss are flash-in the pan. I have hopes for Hero, Rain, and Parting. I wish Huk was up there but much like Stephano he has a ways to go. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
On December 04 2012 13:05 Fionn wrote: i actually forgot drg in the initial post. i would put him above leenock God dammit, now Leenock's going to win the Blizzard Cup thingy | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
Each one of these was a top tier Terran player through history. Polt is good but he was never really a top player. Bomber was always one of those guys who was like top 3 back then. Zerg: NesTea, DRG, Stephano, Leenock Leenock is debatable in my opinion but I put him there because of his sheer amount of results from stacked tournaments and the other three were revolutionary. Stephano was dominate only in the foreign scene and was never really favored against the top Koreans so I put him behind DRG. If skill wasn't the only factor, I'd probably replace Leenock with Idra. Protoss: MC, HuK, HerO, Rain HuK was a top tier player a year ago, HerO's been making deep runs in almost every tournament and Rain is just the most dominate Protoss player these last few tournaments. (I don't include PartinG because his run was mostly against mid tier foreigners) Neither Creator, Seed, Squirtle or PartinG's play seems dominate at all and they don't seem to possess the aura that those four had/have, though I guess that's debatable. | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
Taeja gets the nod over Polt because although Polt won the Super Tournament he was never the best terran in the world like Taeja was. Zerg: Nestea - DRG - Leenock - Life Easy picks as these 4 all have multiple 'premier' tournament wins. Stephano gets left off because only in one of the tournaments he won did he actually have to face multiple elite Koreans (NASL 3) Protoss: MC - Hero - Rain - Parting The PresidentToss is a shoe in. Hero, Rain, Parting and Creator are left to fight for 3 spots. All have impressive resumes but with asterisks. Hero won both his Dreamhacks by beating foreigners all the way and only in the finals against a Korean terran did he have a fight on his hands. Creator had an impressive WCS Korea but TSL4 was really just an online tournament and honestly doesn't deserve to be listed as a 'premier tournament.' Rain's OSL was nice but WCS Asia was all PvP. Ultimately though I left off Parting because in his combined BWC and WCG he only faced a single Korean, and that was a PvP. Seed was a one hit wonder so he didn't receive any consideration. | ||
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SkyfOu
United States81 Posts
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ratty
New Zealand275 Posts
MVP- Nestea- MC- fruitdealer | ||
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grindC
Germany274 Posts
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
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DavoS
United States4605 Posts
Protoss: MC, HerO, NaNiwa, HuK Zerg: NesTea, DongRaeGu, Stephano, Life. Mvp has the single greatest legacy in all of SC2. MMA was the son of BoxeR and was godlike during 2011, constantly fighting Mvp for the Terran throne in an era of Terran supremacy. MarineKing was consistently an incredible player, even reaching a period towards the end of the age of Terran where he could claim to be the best of the best. Mvp was always a bane for him, but he held TvZ under his iron fist until the patch and never stopped being a deadly presence. TaeJa came onto the scene as a star fairly late, but the absolute dominance, greed, and insane mico has never seen an equal, even if his frail body couldn't continue it for every match and tournament. Protoss just hasn't been a successful race in general. MC was only the top earner because he was the original "go beat up the little foreign kids" guy, but he was able to do it with great army compositions and stellar decision making, so he is still the king. HerO got my vote because he is responsible for pretty much every Protoss metagame shift since he won his first Dreamhack, and he can do incredible things when he can control his emotions. Liquid'HuK was a star, and the heights he achieved was only matched by how he was able to bring the foreign community with him and inspire everyone. I don't think I've seen a more estatic crowd then when the newly made EG'HuK used his last ounces of Liquid magic to win MLG. Then there's NaNiwa. The biggest villain in all of SC2. What makes him so remarkable is that so many times it was NaNiwa vs the world, with the crowd, teams, and players all hating him to his very core and denying every available opportunity to improve and compete, and yet he still broke the very foundation of the world order. Mvp and NesTea beaten in the same tournament. Making it to the finals in an MLG loaded with Koreans. Back to back Code S RO8 finishes. And beating FlaSh in MLG. Kingslayer, Dragonslayer, King in the North, Godslayer. Hate him all you want, but you can't deny his accomplishments. NesTea is god. Does that require an explanation? DongRaeGu was extremely successful, and he also had the greatest "legend" in SC2. Think of it like this; BoxeR had the greatest legend in Brood War even though FlaSh was the best. Likewise, DongRaeGu was always a player with fans, results, and narratives to his games, and there was even a large swath of 2012 where DRG WAS the best. Stephano is the greatest foreigner ever, invented the most recognizable build in SC2 (12 min max roach), introduced the ice cold confidence that makes legends in other sports, and has the skill to be the best in the world (IF HE EVER JUST ACCPETED THAT F*CKING CODE S SEED ASDFGHJKL). For this last spot, I was torn between Idra (the original villain/foreign hope), Leenock (King of MLG, most entertaining Zerg in the history of forever), and Life (youngest GSL winner ever, first true Royal Roader, and most immediate and rapid improvement of any player.) I picked Life because the skill it takes to royal road GSL and MLG is incredible, he has that same confidence that Stephano has, and I'm convinced that if WoL had lasted longer, he would've become what FlaSh was to Brood War. I think he can still do that when HotS drops, and I'm excited to watch him do it. Also, I wanted a StarTale player on this list. But looking at this list should show us something. So many threads are dedicated to whining about how much better Brood War was, how OP/boring sentries and infestors are, and taking another video game's success as some sort of death knell for StarCraft. I'll admit that ladder anxiety and the lack of a good social platform in WoL hurt the casual base a lot, but we've had so many magical moments in StarCraft 2's pro scene, we've made fandoms and anti-heroes, we've watched players fulfill their dreams and overcome impossible odds, we've laughed, we've cheered, and above all, we rode the flagship that proved that E-Sports is not the guilty pleasure of some nerd cult, but a form of entertainment and human stories that make for stories to last a lifetime | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
Oblig: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=105748 Somehow no one has made it before and I dont have photoshop  | ||
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