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SyDe
France355 Posts
On December 04 2012 07:21 Canucklehead wrote: Sad to hear. Dragon was the only reason people outside of france even heard of millennium. What about  ForGG ?I heard he is pretty good! | ||
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T0F4sT
Netherlands317 Posts
On December 04 2012 05:41 FeyverN wrote: Maybe. But do you think they will recruit Dragon, who posts no results and has a medium-sized fan base? Oh yes, probably. ;D The fanbase of IN\ncontrol is alot bigger then the fanbase of Dragon. And Incontrol does alot more for EG then only playing/streaming. | ||
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FeyverN
United States104 Posts
On December 04 2012 08:08 T0F4sT wrote: The fanbase of IN\ncontrol is alot bigger then the fanbase of Dragon.. I wouldn't be too sure about this. On TeamLiquid, certainly. | ||
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Sumahi
Guam5609 Posts
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skatblast
United States784 Posts
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
On December 04 2012 07:10 LgNKami wrote: lol, I cant believe mods are allowing all this bm about dragon. sheesh, if this were a liquid'sea thread and everybody were flaming him, best believe everyones getting banned. Sea wasn't a cheater that lied about never playing in tournaments again. Nor is he a lame bmer that smurfs on low league accounts on ladder. If Sea had the same history as Dragon he wouldn't be on TL. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On December 04 2012 08:15 FeyverN wrote: I wouldn't be too sure about this. On TeamLiquid, certainly. I dont know how you view fanbases but when Incontrol streams he usually gets what, 2400ish? thats about what Dragon gets. But Incontrol is also outsourced to cast tournaments which in theory ups his -- and EGs -- exposure. Dragon is a non-racist, non-homophobic Korean Destiny, tooling around on ladder. When he runs into a legit player he gets manhandled, I think Idra crushed him 4-0 or 5-0 the other day on Hots beta. | ||
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
And Adel just went 2nd at WCG. | ||
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Dontkillme
Korea (South)806 Posts
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FeyverN
United States104 Posts
On December 04 2012 08:46 Sub40APM wrote: I dont know how you view fanbases but when Incontrol streams he usually gets what, 2400ish? thats about what Dragon gets. But Incontrol is also outsourced to cast tournaments which in theory ups his -- and EGs -- exposure. Dragon is a non-racist, non-homophobic Korean Destiny, tooling around on ladder. When he runs into a legit player he gets manhandled, I think Idra crushed him 4-0 or 5-0 the other day on Hots beta. When he runs into a legit player he gets manhandled, Oh man you really set yourself up with that statement. | ||
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
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NKexquisite
United States911 Posts
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Sein
United States1811 Posts
On December 04 2012 08:46 Sub40APM wrote: I dont know how you view fanbases but when Incontrol streams he usually gets what, 2400ish? thats about what Dragon gets. But Incontrol is also outsourced to cast tournaments which in theory ups his -- and EGs -- exposure. Dragon is a non-racist, non-homophobic Korean Destiny, tooling around on ladder. When he runs into a legit player he gets manhandled, I think Idra crushed him 4-0 or 5-0 the other day on Hots beta. Dragon gets 2400 viewers? Jesus, most Koreans would be absolutely appalled considering how infamous he was over there. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On December 04 2012 09:29 Sein wrote: Dragon gets 2400 viewers? Jesus, most Koreans would be absolutely appalled considering how infamous he was over there. Being an entertainer is viable for a certain set of players. | ||
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Ctone23
United States1841 Posts
On December 04 2012 08:46 Sub40APM wrote: I dont know how you view fanbases but when Incontrol streams he usually gets what, 2400ish? thats about what Dragon gets. But Incontrol is also outsourced to cast tournaments which in theory ups his -- and EGs -- exposure. Dragon is a non-racist, non-homophobic Korean Destiny, tooling around on ladder. When he runs into a legit player he gets manhandled, I think Idra crushed him 4-0 or 5-0 the other day on Hots beta. Well, the day before Dragon went like 6-2 vs Idra. I don't understand the problem with Dragon among certain fans, aside from the "cheating" scandal. In Korea, it seems quite common for top players to brand others as "hackers" or whatever you want to call it. I think the kid has talent. I would give him a shot, but who am I  | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On December 04 2012 09:45 Ctone23 wrote: Well, the day before Dragon went like 6-2 vs Idra. I don't understand the problem with Dragon among certain fans, aside from the "cheating" scandal. In Korea, it seems quite common for top players to brand others as "hackers" or whatever you want to call it. I think the kid has talent. I would give him a shot, but who am I I dont have a problem with him, I like watching his stream sometimes but it gets too repetitive to watch him crush people 2-3 categories below him. But who knows, maybe when HOTS goes live he will be really awesome for a year, the way the white guys were back in 2010/mid 11 before the Koreans got serious about the game. | ||
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playLoud
United States114 Posts
On December 04 2012 07:03 shid0x wrote: KleeneX just like lalush isn't even paid. why would you fire people who play for basically free ? The same reason they dont just pick up anyone who asks. You want good players to represent you free or not free. | ||
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loginn
France815 Posts
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Ctone23
United States1841 Posts
On December 04 2012 09:51 Sub40APM wrote: I dont have a problem with him, I like watching his stream sometimes but it gets too repetitive to watch him crush people 2-3 categories below him. But who knows, maybe when HOTS goes live he will be really awesome for a year, the way the white guys were back in 2010/mid 11 before the Koreans got serious about the game. I watch him all the time, he rarely trolls the lower leagues. I can see the argument that it's BM to do that, but on the other hand it is very entertaining. GL Dragon <3 | ||
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
On December 04 2012 09:55 playLoud wrote: The same reason they dont just pick up anyone who asks. You want good players to represent you free or not free. KleeneX represents Millenium on the french scene. You wouldn't know about that - obviously - but he had decent results on a national level which meets the criteria set for him by his manager. Not everybody can be Stephano, and though I agree that we should weed out mediocre players to make room for better, more enthusiast players, I'm not sure it is useful to get rid of a player loved by your community (Millenium's) who plays for free on a national scene and helps for casting when needed (he is paid to cast or stream though) As for Dragon, I'm sad to see him leave but one has to question the way he handles his career. Though Millenium hadn't foreseen the huge visa issues they now run into with ForGG (and before him Dragon) which severely hinder both of their impact on the international scene, Dragon hasn't trained for a WoL tournament for 2 months, that's not really a serious attitude to have. Millenium's intent when recruiting Dragon was to have him play on the EU scene as a legit player, not as an entertainer. And he failed to uphold the status he wished to achieve. | ||
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