Dragon leaves Millenium

On December 04 2012 00:38 SfynX wrote:
Havnt seen his stream for a while. Hope he finds a good hots team!

On December 04 2012 01:06 Whatson wrote:

Actually, a poster 5 posts up said the exact same thing. So no, I didn't here it hear first.

On December 04 2012 00:50 BoggieMan wrote:
I guess they diden't allow him to be in korea?
else it would be silly to leave millenium for no team at all...

On December 04 2012 01:21 Glurkenspurk wrote:
Just a reminder that he's a confirmed cheater. It's amazing he got on any teams in the first place. I don't think people should forgive so easily.

On December 04 2012 01:50 Enzymatic wrote:
Meh.. Dragon really didn't do a whole lot for Millennium results-wise (aside from bringing them some added popularity through his stream), he was virtually invisible in terms of tournament results and team presence. I don't really understand his place on Millennium in the first place. "Focusing on Hots" just seems like an excuse he's thrown out there for not doing much.

On December 04 2012 01:58 foxj wrote:

Agree ... He hasn't done anything good for Millennium expect streaming his game. No offense here, but he was a bad decision by Millennium

On December 04 2012 02:19 NapoleonBonaparte wrote:
Dragon has been the worst recruit of Millenium since the release of SC2. His departure is thus normal. GL HF

On December 04 2012 01:21 Glurkenspurk wrote:
Just a reminder that he's a confirmed cheater. It's amazing he got on any teams in the first place. I don't think people should forgive so easily.

On December 04 2012 02:19 NapoleonBonaparte wrote:
Dragon has been the worst recruit of Millenium since the release of SC2. His departure is thus normal. GL HF

On December 04 2012 02:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:


Let me get you a KleeneX:
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Millenium#Player_Roster
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/KleeneX

On December 04 2012 00:49 Bromaria wrote:
EG.Dragon.RC

On December 04 2012 04:48 Juggernaut477 wrote:



EG wont recruit a cheater.

On December 04 2012 00:49 Bromaria wrote:
EG.Dragon.RC

On December 04 2012 04:42 Eshra wrote:


KleeneX has been playing for Millenium since Warcraft 3. So no, we don't let you get him ( oh by the way, he's pretty well-known in the french scene, which is somewhat interesting for a ... guess what ... FRENCH team ).

On December 04 2012 07:10 LgNKami wrote:
lol, I cant believe mods are allowing all this bm about dragon. sheesh, if this were a liquid'sea thread and everybody were flaming him, best believe everyones getting banned.

On December 04 2012 07:34 Otolia wrote:

*cough* Stephano *cough*

On December 04 2012 00:49 Bromaria wrote:
EG.Dragon.RC

On December 04 2012 07:21 Canucklehead wrote:
Sad to hear. Dragon was the only reason people outside of france even heard of millennium.

On December 04 2012 05:41 FeyverN wrote:

Maybe.

But do you think they will recruit Dragon, who posts no results and has a medium-sized fan base?
Oh yes, probably.
;D

On December 04 2012 08:08 T0F4sT wrote:



The fanbase of IN\ncontrol is alot bigger then the fanbase of Dragon..

On December 04 2012 07:10 LgNKami wrote:
lol, I cant believe mods are allowing all this bm about dragon. sheesh, if this were a liquid'sea thread and everybody were flaming him, best believe everyones getting banned.

On December 04 2012 08:15 FeyverN wrote:

I wouldn't be too sure about this.

On TeamLiquid, certainly.

On December 04 2012 08:06 SyDe wrote:


What about ForGG ?

I heard he is pretty good!

On December 04 2012 08:46 Sub40APM wrote:

I dont know how you view fanbases but when Incontrol streams he usually gets what, 2400ish? thats about what Dragon gets. But Incontrol is also outsourced to cast tournaments which in theory ups his -- and EGs -- exposure. Dragon is a non-racist, non-homophobic Korean Destiny, tooling around on ladder. When he runs into a legit player he gets manhandled, I think Idra crushed him 4-0 or 5-0 the other day on Hots beta.

When he runs into a legit player he gets manhandled,

On December 04 2012 08:46 Sub40APM wrote:

I dont know how you view fanbases but when Incontrol streams he usually gets what, 2400ish? thats about what Dragon gets. But Incontrol is also outsourced to cast tournaments which in theory ups his -- and EGs -- exposure. Dragon is a non-racist, non-homophobic Korean Destiny, tooling around on ladder. When he runs into a legit player he gets manhandled, I think Idra crushed him 4-0 or 5-0 the other day on Hots beta.

On December 04 2012 09:29 Sein wrote:


Dragon gets 2400 viewers? Jesus, most Koreans would be absolutely appalled considering how infamous he was over there.

On December 04 2012 08:46 Sub40APM wrote:

I dont know how you view fanbases but when Incontrol streams he usually gets what, 2400ish? thats about what Dragon gets. But Incontrol is also outsourced to cast tournaments which in theory ups his -- and EGs -- exposure. Dragon is a non-racist, non-homophobic Korean Destiny, tooling around on ladder. When he runs into a legit player he gets manhandled, I think Idra crushed him 4-0 or 5-0 the other day on Hots beta.

On December 04 2012 09:45 Ctone23 wrote:



Well, the day before Dragon went like 6-2 vs Idra.

I don't understand the problem with Dragon among certain fans, aside from the "cheating" scandal. In Korea, it seems quite common for top players to brand others as "hackers" or whatever you want to call it.

I think the kid has talent. I would give him a shot, but who am I

On December 04 2012 07:03 shid0x wrote:


KleeneX just like lalush isn't even paid.
why would you fire people who play for basically free ?

On December 04 2012 09:51 Sub40APM wrote:

I dont have a problem with him, I like watching his stream sometimes but it gets too repetitive to watch him crush people 2-3 categories below him. But who knows, maybe when HOTS goes live he will be really awesome for a year, the way the white guys were back in 2010/mid 11 before the Koreans got serious about the game.

On December 04 2012 09:55 playLoud wrote:


The same reason they dont just pick up anyone who asks. You want good players to represent you free or not free.

On December 04 2012 01:21 Glurkenspurk wrote:
Just a reminder that he's a confirmed cheater. It's amazing he got on any teams in the first place. I don't think people should forgive so easily.

On December 07 2012 12:51 Bawbjohnson wrote:
That sucks, hope he finds a new team. Right now he's streaming practice matches with ToD and winning. He's a lot better than some of you seem to give him credit for.

On December 04 2012 01:21 Glurkenspurk wrote:
Just a reminder that he's a confirmed cheater. It's amazing he got on any teams in the first place. I don't think people should forgive so easily.

On December 04 2012 08:45 Glurkenspurk wrote:


Sea wasn't a cheater that lied about never playing in tournaments again.

Nor is he a lame bmer that smurfs on low league accounts on ladder.


If Sea had the same history as Dragon he wouldn't be on TL.

On December 04 2012 01:21 Glurkenspurk wrote:
Just a reminder that he's a confirmed cheater. It's amazing he got on any teams in the first place. I don't think people should forgive so easily.

On December 10 2012 12:49 Melaine wrote:




So many trolls in this thread. Best of luck to Dragon, he is a good player and expect him in GSL when hots comes out

On December 10 2012 12:52 Sub40APM wrote:

I wish him well but I am fairly confident he would have a hard time getting into Code A.

On December 10 2012 12:52 Sub40APM wrote:

I wish him well but I am fairly confident he would have a hard time getting into Code A.

On December 10 2012 12:54 Melaine wrote:



Not with HOTS, it will be a new ball park, and many top tier players will be stuck in WOL mindeset, while dragon and others who are focusing on 100% hots beta will be better prepare with builds.


Hots is like a 100% brand new game, in which it will take the players who are not active in beta a long time to trans

On December 10 2012 12:49 Melaine wrote:



he is not a confirmed cheater, you should of been temp banned for that post, hes a ex slayers member who played in plenty of high lvl tourneys, srsr i'm sick of people puting out false info and shaming good players for nothing, most these comments come from random kids. He made 1 mistake LONG TIME AGO, And everyone else has moved on, along with him.

Only reason he has not done anything on mili cuz Hots beta came out, then the announcement of HOTS release date....so he wants to focus 100% on hots like EG Idra and other big names, only reason why other pros have not is because they have current tourneys to finish (gsl/proleague ect)

So many trolls in this thread. Best of luck to Dragon, he is a good player and expect him in GSL when hots comes out

On December 10 2012 13:35 anrimayu wrote:


You're either a blind fanboy, or have no idea what you're talking about and too lazy to look up what happened.

Dragon is a cheater, scammer, and a liar.

For those that do not know or remember what happened with him in the past, I'll summarize:

Back in 2010, Dragon, when he was known as MioWerra, introduced a "friend" known as 서연지 to play in online tournament 기사도의 연승전 on Gisado's show. He used his main account to stream snipe multiple opponents, including theSTC, while playing on the alt account, 서연지.

TheSTC, along with several others, accused Dragon of map hacking. He denied everything, and TheSTC but eventually confessed and apologized when the evidence was found.

Dragon posted a formal apology, claiming that he will never appear in any Lan tournament or pursue a career in pro gaming.

Despite all that, he applied and qualified for code A spot of GSL Open season 3.

So no, he's a confirmed cheater. He did not just made 1 mistake LONG time ago. The fact that he's still around, streaming, and joining pro gaming team is ridiculous.

And those who are interested, and literate in read korean, can read what happened.

TheSTC accusing Dragon
Dragon's apology
Apology by Cella, who was in WeRRA at the time

On December 11 2012 19:31 Gekk02 wrote:
anrimayu.. this is really hilarious.. looks like everybody else except Dragon is perfect. Don't you hate Byun and CoCa too for match fixing? this chivvy against players is sickening

On December 11 2012 20:44 Juggernaut477 wrote:



I do. And it is ridiculous that a confirmed cheater has such a huge fanbase and is STILL featured on TL after cheating. People like Deathangle and Veralynn lie about their league for coaching, and get banned completely and the entire community (rightfully so) hate them. Or Spades, Zach, Impa etc etc get caught cheating on LADDER they are 100% gone. But Dragon gets to stay even after cheating multiple times in TOURNAMENTS?