On November 29 2012 07:40 Cubikill wrote: Why on Taeja? If you adding MKP because he won an arena? Why not Violet and Taeja? But anyways it looks awesome, cannot wait.
On November 29 2012 06:39 tree.hugger wrote: Enough of these random invitationals with no past or future storyline, please. I liked the arenas just fine.
I love the arenas also. I feel like there are ample storylines here: offseason mini tournament between champions of 2012.
You mentioned one storyline. Sorta. But there's not a ton of rhyme or reason to how the players were selected. I get that it's a bunch of people who won MLG events and the one KeSPA event and the one Blizzard event. Yet it's a little silly to call Flash a champion when there's no mention of viOlet who won the Spring Arena that anybody cared about.
I mean, this is great content, and I'm sure it'll be fun to watch, but it doesn't mean anything. Anyone can give out X amount of money and find players who are champions of something to play a tournament. What does this tournament mean? Does it crown a champion of the 2012 MLG Season? If so, why is it such a low key event? Does it kick off the 2013 season by giving out seeding or something? Clearly not.
So what is it? It's a time sink. It's a way to get eyeballs on your stuff with minimal effort or interest. People will tune in, if you guys are lucky there'll be good games, and it'll get more attention. But I (personally, I'm not speaking for anyone else here) am really exhausted from events like this. It just cheapens the real tournaments. If DongRaeGu and Flash meet in some LAN, it's that much less epic because tournaments like this essentially say; "Hey guess what, we can just pick whoever we want, get them to play each other, and be done with it."
This is the one night stand of tournaments, except it takes three weeks.
Violet and Taeja declined to participate.
I could spin this the opposite way from how you painted it, but I don't think it will do any good. I will say that we're incredibly excited to hold this event and we do feel it is a valid tournament with valid reasoning on why the competitors were selected.
I think Leenock can take Rain, he's done well against him this month at least, beating him in two series in MLG Dallas. From what I've seen both DRG and Flash have been at least a bit inconsistent but either way it's hard to tell who's got the edge on that one. I'd say the odds are in Life's favor, but watch out for the soulful Immortal Sentry all-in... soO vs MarineKing is probably the least exciting in my opinion, soO is good but MarineKing's better. From there, I'd say DRG/Flash could beat MKP, but just like the DRG/Flash match, the SF #1 would also be pretty even, to be fair. SF #2 could depend on several things too - how Leenock can deal with a ZvZ or how he can deal with the soulful all-in, or maybe even Rain vs Life or Rain vs PartinG (I think Rain would win the latter though). So for the final, I think it would be DRG/Flash/MKP vs Leenock/Life/Rain (ordered in likelihood in getting there). Oh, and if the SFs are differently bracketed, then throw all my predictions minus the QF ones.
Also, winning the KeSPA invitational isn't the greatest of accomplishments, while it did have a lot of BW pros, quite a few of them aren't strong in SC2, which allowed Flash to pretty much blitz through. Flash was a good invite though, seeing how far he made it in Dallas (no kudos to Bomber for making it that far, he's the king of inconsistency).
Parting said he manages to stay around 50/50 win/loss with Life in practice, but he also said that he Immortal-Allined 70 times without losing in practice. Sounds like he hardly wins unless he soul pushes :/
I personally love this tournament. I was a huge fan of the MvP invitation. It's becoming excessively hard to find top tier competition without having to pay for it, so this will be a welcomed tournament in my eyes. I, unfortunately, can't stay up for korean events and can't afford to pay for the VODs, and often I'm so locked up in studies that I can't watch an entire weekend tournament marathon, so its nice to have an hour or two prime-time slot locked up for high level competition.
On November 29 2012 06:39 tree.hugger wrote: Enough of these random invitationals with no past or future storyline, please. I liked the arenas just fine.
I love the arenas also. I feel like there are ample storylines here: offseason mini tournament between champions of 2012.
You mentioned one storyline. Sorta. But there's not a ton of rhyme or reason to how the players were selected. I get that it's a bunch of people who won MLG events and the one KeSPA event and the one Blizzard event. Yet it's a little silly to call Flash a champion when there's no mention of viOlet who won the Spring Arena that anybody cared about.
I mean, this is great content, and I'm sure it'll be fun to watch, but it doesn't mean anything. Anyone can give out X amount of money and find players who are champions of something to play a tournament. What does this tournament mean? Does it crown a champion of the 2012 MLG Season? If so, why is it such a low key event? Does it kick off the 2013 season by giving out seeding or something? Clearly not.
So what is it? It's a time sink. It's a way to get eyeballs on your stuff with minimal effort or interest. People will tune in, if you guys are lucky there'll be good games, and it'll get more attention. But I (personally, I'm not speaking for anyone else here) am really exhausted from events like this. It just cheapens the real tournaments. If DongRaeGu and Flash meet in some LAN, it's that much less epic because tournaments like this essentially say; "Hey guess what, we can just pick whoever we want, get them to play each other, and be done with it."
This is the one night stand of tournaments, except it takes three weeks.
Violet and Taeja declined to participate.
I could spin this the opposite way from how you painted it, but I don't think it will do any good. I will say that we're incredibly excited to hold this event and we do feel it is a valid tournament with valid reasoning on why the competitors were selected.
I've got your next tournament:
MLG Foreigner Hero NaNiwa, BabyKnight, Stephano, Sasquatch, SaSe, mOOnGlaDe, HuK, Socke are the players. They're the top two non-Korean players at every seasonal championship. (BK and MG tied, but Stephano repeated in the top two, so it works out.)
On November 29 2012 07:41 Kasaraki wrote: I laughed a bit when I saw which championship made Flash a champion.
Who cares why Flash plays there as long as he plays . They could've just written: "because he is god".
Great to see free HD from MLG and the line up is just sick. I don't care whether this tournament makes sense in the circuit or if there is a lack of story. It's free, it has awsome players, no cross server play and I think it's way better than doing nothing during the off-season. Can't wait to see the games, good job MLG!!!
On November 29 2012 06:39 tree.hugger wrote: Enough of these random invitationals with no past or future storyline, please. I liked the arenas just fine.
I love the arenas also. I feel like there are ample storylines here: offseason mini tournament between champions of 2012.
You mentioned one storyline. Sorta. But there's not a ton of rhyme or reason to how the players were selected. I get that it's a bunch of people who won MLG events and the one KeSPA event and the one Blizzard event. Yet it's a little silly to call Flash a champion when there's no mention of viOlet who won the Spring Arena that anybody cared about.
I mean, this is great content, and I'm sure it'll be fun to watch, but it doesn't mean anything. Anyone can give out X amount of money and find players who are champions of something to play a tournament. What does this tournament mean? Does it crown a champion of the 2012 MLG Season? If so, why is it such a low key event? Does it kick off the 2013 season by giving out seeding or something? Clearly not.
So what is it? It's a time sink. It's a way to get eyeballs on your stuff with minimal effort or interest. People will tune in, if you guys are lucky there'll be good games, and it'll get more attention. But I (personally, I'm not speaking for anyone else here) am really exhausted from events like this. It just cheapens the real tournaments. If DongRaeGu and Flash meet in some LAN, it's that much less epic because tournaments like this essentially say; "Hey guess what, we can just pick whoever we want, get them to play each other, and be done with it."
This is the one night stand of tournaments, except it takes three weeks.
Violet and Taeja declined to participate.
I could spin this the opposite way from how you painted it, but I don't think it will do any good. I will say that we're incredibly excited to hold this event and we do feel it is a valid tournament with valid reasoning on why the competitors were selected.
I've got your next tournament:
MLG Foreigner Hero NaNiwa, BabyKnight, Stephano, Sasquatch, SaSe, mOOnGlaDe, HuK, Socke are the players. They're the top two non-Korean players at every seasonal championship. (BK and MG tied, but Stephano repeated in the top two, so it works out.)
Would watch!
And then let the winner play vs the korean champion and there is another story .
On November 29 2012 07:40 Cubikill wrote: Why on Taeja? If you adding MKP because he won an arena? Why not Violet and Taeja? But anyways it looks awesome, cannot wait.
Edit: I didn't read that Taeja and violet declined. I'm am sad that they did so. ㅉ Anyways it looks awesome. Thanks for the Free HD you guys at MLG are awesome.
I'm definitely with Tree Hugger here. Hand picking top named players to play in a small, invite-only, somewhat exhibition type tournament does cheapen the overall experience. not only are we over-saturated with major tournaments(which is pretty cool), we're super over-saturated with exhibitions that try to be important but aren't. What does it mean to win this? why does Flash get a spot for winning a show match tournament?
I feel like when people watch enough top players play enough times because of a tournament like this, it's not going to matter that much when they meet in the GSL or in a real MLG championship, or in any other major tournament.
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