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[Interview] iG.XiGua (IPL5) and Spider.Comm (BWC) - Page 3

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Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
November 27 2012 09:59 GMT
#41
I highly doubt that there are "millions and millions" still playing wc3. It's basically the same 5 guys who dominate every event there and hardly any newcomers.
xlord 5:0
Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
November 27 2012 10:09 GMT
#42
As someone who's been in touch with a bit of the Chinese esports scene, I really don't think that "depressing" is the right word for it. It's more a relaxed acceptance where they are still going to play the games they like as long as they can. If anything they are more motivated and don't give up nearly as easily on their lifestyle. The bland honest nature may sound disappointing but I like the honesty instead of listening to marketing blurb or people pretending to be excited and lying.
"If you're not living in the US or are a US Citizen, please do not tell us how to vote or how you want our country to be governed." - Serpest, American Hero
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
November 27 2012 10:21 GMT
#43
On November 27 2012 14:54 aintz wrote:
2 bad sc2 will never be big in china cuz it doesnt have lan. owell.


is more about that the game costs $$ to play . meanwhile all other popular e-sports are FREE . china cant affoard to pay so much , east europe cant affoard to pay so much (50 euro while the monthly income is 200-east-europe or even 100 for china ) .
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
November 27 2012 10:42 GMT
#44
On November 27 2012 18:40 digmouse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 18:17 Xiahou wrote:
On November 27 2012 18:12 digmouse wrote:
Something big about Chinese Starcraft will pop up on TL soon.


Chinese united front in the next proleague season?


Haha, you got me.
Not a big event or announcement though.

This sounds like it's going to fun
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
November 27 2012 11:43 GMT
#45
Can't tell if Comm is brutally honest or just a real downer. LOL!

Still, I can relate to his problems. At least, from an amateur's standpoint, I go in a local PC Bang and out of a hundred pc's, I'm almost always the only one playing SC2 or watching GSL. Lately, I haven't been able to post on the LR's because of school but I still love the game to death and talk about it practically non-stop to my friends. It's just depressing that even the friends who got me into the game have all totally stopped playing and watching.

Respect to Xigua and Comm who play the game they love no matter the conditions or the popularity of the game. SC2 may not be a glamorous game in China but they still push on.
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 12:16:01
November 27 2012 12:07 GMT
#46
On November 27 2012 19:21 xsnac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2012 14:54 aintz wrote:
2 bad sc2 will never be big in china cuz it doesnt have lan. owell.


is more about that the game costs $$ to play . meanwhile all other popular e-sports are FREE . china cant affoard to pay so much , east europe cant affoard to pay so much (50 euro while the monthly income is 200-east-europe or even 100 for china ) .

It doesn't have to be e-sport games. China has tonnes of crappy online games that use sex appeal, grinding MMORPGs and people get addicted way too easily.
the game itself isn't that expensive, 100 monthly income is way too low, definitly not the city area average income

Another is lan.
Why people loved WC3 is because it lets them go to friend's house and just lan up.
So what if the friend doesn't have wi fi now? You cant play together even though you are right next to eachother and both has legit copy of the game.

Not that many cyber cafe in China even have Starcraft 2 installed.
so yea, SC2 scene will just keep shrinking in China.

It's probably the same in other SE asia countries other than Korea. I know a lot of malays and Philippines and singaporeans who know of the game but never really care about it much since LoL/Dota is the game to go for, the willthat you know most others will play and the game that you can spent times with your friends.

[edit] just browsed around the forum, apparently they don't know when Hots is coming to China. But whoever bought the 90 RMB version of WoL (that is really cheap btw), will get a FREE upgrade to Hots...damn what a good deal. Why won't anyone buy it now since global play is coming?
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-27 14:21:36
November 27 2012 14:16 GMT
#47
thanks for the translations! a tad depressing haha, hope sc2 can improve in china
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revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
November 27 2012 14:32 GMT
#48
Grubby said a month or so back that SC2 in China really needs the BWC in Shanghai to be a massive success, in order to grow. I am not sure whether it will have any impact or not but the Chinese scene is a great unknown for me really. I have heard of a few of their top players but cannot recall seeing them ever play in a tournament. The time zone difference is a factor in this as Chinese or Asian tournaments are not personally convenient for me.

China SC2 does seem a bit of a 'hidden' scene on TL. No coverage really AFAIK. Sase won a tournament there recently and won ~ $10k. His biggest career win but no-one really seemed to notice!

Oh well, it is up to them to promote themselves.
PiQLiQ
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden702 Posts
November 27 2012 14:33 GMT
#49
Oh this is my old friend Xigua ;]
http://twitter.com/PiQLiQ
Roarer
Profile Joined December 2011
Hong Kong124 Posts
November 27 2012 15:02 GMT
#50
I like Comm's attitude towards the game, though he may need to cheer up a bit to get a better practicing mindset.
Never argue with an idiot, cause they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience =﹏=
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
November 27 2012 15:17 GMT
#51
On November 27 2012 20:43 silent_owl wrote:
Can't tell if Comm is brutally honest or just a real downer. LOL!

Still, I can relate to his problems. At least, from an amateur's standpoint, I go in a local PC Bang and out of a hundred pc's, I'm almost always the only one playing SC2 or watching GSL. Lately, I haven't been able to post on the LR's because of school but I still love the game to death and talk about it practically non-stop to my friends. It's just depressing that even the friends who got me into the game have all totally stopped playing and watching.

Respect to Xigua and Comm who play the game they love no matter the conditions or the popularity of the game. SC2 may not be a glamorous game in China but they still push on.


Yea, I think many can relate to that situation. I'm the only one of like 6-10 of my close friends who still logs onto SC2 periodically.
zxd123
Profile Joined September 2011
China64 Posts
November 27 2012 15:22 GMT
#52
SC2 is nearly dead in China.
tossgirl
Azera
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3800 Posts
November 27 2012 15:23 GMT
#53
Comm T.T
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ILOVEWAR
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands104 Posts
November 27 2012 15:50 GMT
#54
the level and popularity of sc2 in china kinda depressing...

everytime I go to china, and I start laddering on my chinese account, I almost hit the GM ladder, while Im in europe mid masters and low master kr (i dont play much). Ive competited during wcg prelims in hangzhou, I made it to the semi finals, and lost against F1(one of the 3 kings of shanghai, still have no idea who he is...). This maybe shows the level of a high master level chinese sc2 player.

I cant blame them, they call Sen as a Chinese player from Taipei! There are plenty overseas chinese player who are willing carry the chinese flag for them. for example SingSing from Dota2.

Maybe there should a chinese "clan-webpage" on TL to synergize whats left over...
If you dont like war, go play tetris...
Whitley
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States238 Posts
November 27 2012 20:08 GMT
#55
Very nice interviews. Thanks
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