EPTTerran does not have an infestor like unit that can do everything.
"Rock" comments about the Infestor (Blue post) - Page 33
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
Terran does not have an infestor like unit that can do everything. | ||
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
On November 15 2012 04:02 SupLilSon wrote: So how does the fact that Zerg can get Broodlords off 3 base or do any type of aggression off 3 base fit into IdrA's post? It's not like Terran can just forgo all forms of defense and just rush to straight BCs (as if that was a legitimate army anyways) Terran does not have an infestor like unit that can do everything. If you think zerg can support broodlords on 3 bases; you don't understand how zerg works. | ||
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WoefulMe
United States14 Posts
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Sabu113
United States11112 Posts
On November 15 2012 04:11 Sc2Null wrote: If you think zerg can support broodlords on 3 bases; you don't understand how zerg works. Yeah. That would be ridiculous since they patched it so PvZ begins with 3 hatches. | ||
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
On November 15 2012 04:12 Sabu113 wrote: Yeah. That would be ridiculous since they patched it so PvZ begins with 3 hatches. marines....level-omega mutants..infinite potential...now go get out of platinum. | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On November 15 2012 04:11 Sc2Null wrote: If you think zerg can support broodlords on 3 bases; you don't understand how zerg works. I've seen Leenock do it. In GSL. Code S. I really don't think you understand Zerg or SC2. GG | ||
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Hider
Denmark9448 Posts
On November 14 2012 17:47 ZackAttack wrote: Seems like Dustin Browder has worked out as of late. | ||
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Sc2Null
United States3754 Posts
On November 15 2012 04:23 SupLilSon wrote: I've seen Leenock do it. In GSL. Code S. I really don't think you understand Zerg or SC2. GG I'm pretty sure you referring to a game where leenock had a 4th base mining just gas...Also, if your going to say "leenock did X, Y and Z", point out the game in which you are referring to, otherwise you just sound like you're spouting nonsense. | ||
Teoita
Italy12248 Posts
On November 15 2012 04:58 Sc2Null wrote: I'm pretty sure you referring to a game where leenock had a 4th base mining just gas...Also, if your going to say "leenock did X, Y and Z", point out the game in which you are referring to, otherwise you just sound like you're spouting nonsense. No, against HerO he was confined on 3 bases, not mining anything at all from the extra hatches he built because they were destroyed immediately. Zerg can't really afford to trade (or lose any unit) on 3 bases, but he can mass up the deathball just fine. It's happened in code S. | ||
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SupLilSon
Malaysia4123 Posts
On November 15 2012 05:01 Teoita wrote: No, against HerO he was confined on 3 bases, not mining anything at all from the extra hatches he built because they were destroyed immediately. Zerg can't really afford to trade (or lose any unit) on 3 bases, but he can mass up the deathball just fine. It's happened in code S. I was referring to the game between Leenock and Taeja on Antiga from RO8 last season. I understand 3 base Zerg with Hive tech is not sustainable but it's quite possible. It's not ideal but it can be done, and Leenock used queens to boost the cost efficiency of his army and made it work. 3 base Zerg is just as viable as 3 base Terran nowadays. | ||
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achristes
Norway653 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On November 15 2012 04:11 Sc2Null wrote: If you think zerg can support broodlords on 3 bases; you don't understand how zerg works. Go watch HerO vs. Leenock from last season of GSL and tell me you can't go broodlord infestor off 3 bases and crush protoss. | ||
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Hryul
Austria2609 Posts
On November 15 2012 04:12 WoefulMe wrote: I quite like this. I hate it. as soon as Blizzard says "nerf x" all the players of race x come out of their holes and claim "everything is fine" and the other players need to "l2p". I'm not sure if Infestors would vanish or are "solved" but this last page was just as cliche as it can get. | ||
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SigmaoctanusIV
United States3313 Posts
On November 15 2012 04:58 Sc2Null wrote: I'm pretty sure you referring to a game where leenock had a 4th base mining just gas...Also, if your going to say "leenock did X, Y and Z", point out the game in which you are referring to, otherwise you just sound like you're spouting nonsense. um Zergs go Broodlord on 3 bases all the time, if you have 14 minute hive you have 16 minute broodlords you probably don't have a 4th going, Depends on map and game aggression I am speaking from a PvZ POV I don't play Terran. Well that is how it works in master anyway. | ||
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Kharnage
Australia920 Posts
On November 15 2012 05:15 SupLilSon wrote: I was referring to the game between Leenock and Taeja on Antiga from RO8 last season. I understand 3 base Zerg with Hive tech is not sustainable but it's quite possible. It's not ideal but it can be done, and Leenock used queens to boost the cost efficiency of his army and made it work. 3 base Zerg is just as viable as 3 base Terran nowadays. I was going to say, isn't that standard on Antiga at the moment? 3 base turtle into hive tech then capture the middle, take bases 4 and 5 before pushing across map. | ||
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aarsgier
Cameroon11 Posts
If zerg makes enough units at the right time and crushes an attack hes often able to take a big enough advantage thats going to carry him for the rest of the match. This is due to the larva mechanics but in combination with the design choice that most units in this game need to be hard countered. It makes playing against zerg either stupid easy (terran once had rax before supply with reapers!!!!) or very frustratingly difficult (zerg buffs make early pressure now unrewarding, forced to lategame). So often it basicly comes down to a good read and some solid mechanics for zerg and its been that way from the beginning regardless of how good zerg whas at that time. Now they just have an easier time doing it due to awkward balancing by blizzard. So everytime when I try to see the big picture and want to find some reason on balancing issues I just get a headache. I feel sorry for SC2 design team. I also watched this guys stream, he whas my T hero ;( + Show Spoiler + On November 13 2012 21:17 mEtRoSG wrote: used to be gm terran for 6 seasons, tvz was the most fun matchup which kept me on playing, stopped 2 month after the quen buff, game just isnt fun anymore, now playing dota which is fun! gj blizz :D | ||
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KoMA_
Canada65 Posts
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ZackAttack
United States884 Posts
On November 15 2012 02:26 MrJoKer wrote: Finally the Rock as come back to Blizzard's Forums ! + Show Spoiler + | ||
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mishimaBeef
Canada2259 Posts
On November 15 2012 11:56 ZackAttack wrote: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8PZTviQHqs&feature=related *about to do routine* "shit... i forgot the name of this place..." "better jazz it up and just say home" *does routine* "yeahhhhhhhh" | ||
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TheRabidDeer
United States3806 Posts
On November 15 2012 04:02 SupLilSon wrote: So how does the fact that Zerg can get Broodlords off 3 base or do any type of aggression off 3 base fit into IdrA's post? It's not like Terran can just forgo all forms of defense and just rush to straight BCs (as if that was a legitimate army anyways) Terran does not have an infestor like unit that can do everything. Terran can easily go 3 base BC, if BC was any good and if you get a PF at the 3rd. It follows the same theory of going with the carn build of thor/hellion. | ||
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