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MVPsC switching to LoL - Page 18
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Kergy
Peru2011 Posts
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Tal
United Kingdom1018 Posts
On October 25 2012 11:41 SupLilSon wrote: I'm sorry, this isn't a bash LoL post. HOWEVER, when RIOT says IN THEIR GAME that LOL IS AN EASIER VERSION OF DOTA, what do you expect people to say? It's not a question of different skill sets. They are very similar games with a number of key differences. It just happens that these differences were all aimed at making LoL EASIER and more casual friendly than DOTA. Does that mean it is skilless? No. QUANTITATIVELY is it easier than DOTA? Yes. Are you gonna argue that Algebra 1 isn't easier than Algebra 2 because they require different skill sets? No, that would be silly. It is mechanically easier, and the items/abilities are more straightforward. That means the game is easier to start playing, but doesn't mean it's easier at a high level - as players can improve in non-mechanical ways. Less focus on mechanics means more focus on decision making/tactics/strategy/timing etc. Every tournament shows the huge room for improvement - even the winning team of LOL's season 2 championships could do a lot to improve their team fights. | ||
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E.H Eager
United States227 Posts
On October 25 2012 13:51 Kergy wrote: So LoL is the new SC2 and SC2 is the new BW I'm fine with this Interesting way to see it. Kinda true though. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9175 Posts
On October 25 2012 13:37 strength wrote: I dont know why some of you are surprised.. LoL has bigger tournaments and more money and MORE VIEWERSHIP. Dont expect Sc2 to live much longer (next 1-2 years). SC is making virtually nothing out of SC2 these days so no I'm not surprised. It's hardly a death knell for the scene seeing some has-been quit. Nestea and more of the old guard will follow the easy money soon enough or go into coaching. If anything I think players like Select and SC quitting are a testament to how much tougher the competition is getting. | ||
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CiCeRoSC2
United States83 Posts
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SeAK
Canada69 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
LoL has huge highs, but is actually pretty similar to Dota2 and SC2 when it comes to non-super hyped tournaments. A majority of fans don't go out of there way to find tournaments it seems. Again, I agree LoL is a bigger e-sport and has a higher ceiling, but that doesn't mean everything LoL-related is instantly at least 100,000+ viewers and consistent. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On October 25 2012 14:12 SeAK wrote: I wonder if his lung ever did collapse. considering all the "injured" excuses teams were coming up with when a player decided to spend more time playing LoL the Sc . sC looked like he was actually going to keel over and die one night during the Up/Downs. Pretty sure he wasn't pulling a Puzzle. | ||
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
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A3mercury
United States26 Posts
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Gheed
United States972 Posts
On October 25 2012 14:14 Fionn wrote: MLG did LoL today and only had 18,000 viewers. The VOD's for IPL5 Korean qualifiers have less views than the GSL in Korea and foreigners. LoL has huge highs, but is actually pretty similar to Dota2 and SC2 when it comes to non-super hyped tournaments. A majority of fans don't go out of there way to find tournaments it seems. Again, I agree LoL is a bigger e-sport and has a higher ceiling, but that doesn't mean everything LoL-related is instantly at least 100,000+ viewers and consistent. MLG today was just a random showmatch between 2 NA teams. One of the problems with the LoL scene is that everything is terribly advertised outside of the Riot organized tournaments. LoL doesn't have a big website like TL that is accepted as "the" website for the community, so if people just hang around reddit they may or may not see the "in 8 hours, there will be a tournament" thread. To find LoL stuff you have to go and specifically read an event calendar, because there isn't a sidebar like on TL that say "hey, this stuff is happening NOW" on a place where everyone would congregate anyway. | ||
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
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CT Legacy
United States57 Posts
On October 25 2012 14:14 Fionn wrote: MLG did LoL today and only had 18,000 viewers. The VOD's for IPL5 Korean qualifiers have less views than the GSL in Korea and foreigners. LoL has huge highs, but is actually pretty similar to Dota2 and SC2 when it comes to non-super hyped tournaments. A majority of fans don't go out of there way to find tournaments it seems. Again, I agree LoL is a bigger e-sport and has a higher ceiling, but that doesn't mean everything LoL-related is instantly at least 100,000+ viewers and consistent. b/c MLG is terrible tbh. look at the stream numbers for Dyrus, Chaox.. 10's of thousands.. combined with the biggest tournaments drawing over 400k concurrent viewers it's so surprise. Yes it's a simple game to learn but hard to master and hard to master effectively as a team of 5 at the highest levels. If it's so simple why isn't everyone at 2400 elo? Guess Destiny was right. Here's a well accomplished SC2 player switching to LoL and I guarantee it's not the last. We will see more and more SC2 players switching to LoL | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On October 25 2012 14:39 CT Legacy wrote: b/c MLG is terrible tbh. look at the stream numbers for Dyrus, Chaox.. 10's of thousands.. combined with the biggest tournaments drawing over 400k concurrent viewers it's so surprise. Yes it's a simple game to learn but hard to master and hard to master effectively as a team of 5 at the highest levels. If it's so simple why isn't everyone at 2400 elo? Guess Destiny was right. Here's a well accomplished SC2 player switching to LoL and I guarantee it's not the last. We will see more and more SC2 players switching to LoL sC was an accomplished player. sC's high point was May 2011. Since then, he was known for three things: collapsing lungs, having Genius do a ceremony on him, and being the first player Jaedong beat in the GOM studios. | ||
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CT Legacy
United States57 Posts
On October 25 2012 14:34 Gheed wrote: LoL doesn't have a big website like TL that is accepted as "the" website for the community False... SoloMid.net | ||
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VanGarde
Sweden755 Posts
Jinro left sc2 to play poker, people took the rational stance and did not assume that he switched because poker is becoming superior to starcraft and is killing the scene. Likewise if this news had come two weeks ago, before Destiny started his online marketing campaign for his LoL stream, no one would had given a second thought to sc switching games. People would had made the rational conclusions that he has been struggling for a long time, he has had health problems and not practiced enough and he is choosing to switch to a game that is in an expansive phase where the competition is not so stacked yet and overall skill cap is lower. | ||
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Gheed
United States972 Posts
http://www.solomid.net/forums/index.php?/forum/12-lol-general-discussion/ Compare those view numbers to the numbers for threads on our SC2 general forum. | ||
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VanGarde
Sweden755 Posts
On October 25 2012 14:43 Gheed wrote: http://www.solomid.net/forums/index.php?/forum/12-lol-general-discussion/ Compare those view numbers to the numbers for threads on our SC2 general forum. So you are saying... that League of Legends is dying? | ||
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Gheed
United States972 Posts
On October 25 2012 14:46 VanGarde wrote: So you are saying... that League of Legends is dying? No, I'm saying that the league community is more scattered around different sites than the SC2 community is, which is one issue contributing to the fact that smaller, independently organized LoL tournaments don't get the high views that one would expect them to. I'm assuming you're being sarcastic, but you never know. | ||
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VanGarde
Sweden755 Posts
On October 25 2012 14:50 Gheed wrote: No, I'm saying that the league community is more scattered around different sites than the SC2 community is, which is one issue that smaller, independently organized LoL tournaments don't get the high views that one would expect them to. I'm assuming you're being sarcastic, but you never know. Yeah, I was. Just trying doing what I can to point out the flaws in how people overreact to statistics, considering overreacting to statistics is why people are having these discussions in the first place. | ||
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