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markrevival
United States222 Posts
as Artosis said, never before has all of the world's RTS talent been playing one single game. | ||
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NozliW_
Chile70 Posts
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Glockateer
United States254 Posts
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
On October 25 2012 10:03 Malpractice.248 wrote: Im sorry, but until you reach top 100 in LoL, GTFO. Tired of everyone just fucking bashing league of legends because theyre sour that league has, what, 10x the viewers? 32 MILLION monthly players? Xbox live has 40 million. Sc2 gears shows that SC2 has 500k over the last few months. 10x the prize money? Really. Its fucking ridiculous this community lately. Sc1 begins to fall, and everyone in sc2 bashes it -- and everyone in sc1 bashing sc2 saying its "EZ MODE OMGZ" and its quite disheartening. Every game requires skill. If you think league is super ez, go get 3k elo. And i play both games. Both have different TYPES of skill. teamwork, metagame, synergy, timings, countering.... theres a lot of "strategy" to league, tbh. Let people do as they want. Just gets old seeing a great community start to turn into a damn mob lately, flaming and bashing and pitchforking everything. /endrant. EDIT: ALSO. dont even start by saying the game is free. I have at least 10 RL friends that have switched from SC2 to LoL over the last year or two. And i know another 20-30 from my univ that plays league. Theyve all spent over 60$ on skins this year already. Theres a reason riot is making huge bank. Thank you Malpractice thank you. Very good points here. | ||
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tuho12345
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velocitygirl
United Kingdom64 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
You do realize LoL is a team game, right? TPA might have won $1,000,000, but that's split between five people. Whoever wins WCS Global Finals will win $100,000 and then however much he/she made through the country and continental finals. All other tournaments like MLG/IPL who have both LoL and SC2 are usually the same prize pool, but the SC2 player gets $50,000 straight up while the LoL team has to split it five ways. Even with the insane winnings from The International and the S2 World Finals, MC, Mvp, Flash, and I believe Jaedong are the richest e-sport players of all-time with Fatality. | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On October 25 2012 09:59 kmillz wrote: Saying "See what i did there?" doesn't make anyone look twice at your worthless post, or care anymore. SC2 should never be in the same sentence as The Sims when comparing games. point being everything is relative. And no league does not have the same skill celing as the sims anymore than sc2 does | ||
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Malpractice.248
United States734 Posts
On October 25 2012 10:47 Fionn wrote: Where does 10x the prize money come from? You do realize LoL is a team game, right? TPA might have won $1,000,000, but that's split between five people. Whoever wins WCS Global Finals will win $100,000 and then however much he/she made through the country and continental finals. All other tournaments like MLG/IPL who have both LoL and SC2 are usually the same prize pool, but the SC2 player gets $50,000 straight up while the LoL team has to split it five ways. Even with the insane winnings from The International and the S2 World Finals, MC, Mvp, Flash, and I believe Jaedong are the richest e-sport players of all-time with Fatality. And thats fine, splitting money 5 ways, to earn 200k each. Thats cool. The real thing is that they have more viewers on streams = more $, more sponsorships... and the game is still growing. Riot does a great job with the community. Blizzard doesnt. Just because a game isnt starcraft doesnt mean theres no skill. There is skill. | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
On October 25 2012 10:47 Fionn wrote: Where does 10x the prize money come from? You do realize LoL is a team game, right? TPA might have won $1,000,000, but that's split between five people. Whoever wins WCS Global Finals will win $100,000 and then however much he/she made through the country and continental finals. All other tournaments like MLG/IPL who have both LoL and SC2 are usually the same prize pool, but the SC2 player gets $50,000 straight up while the LoL team has to split it five ways. Even with the insane winnings from The International and the S2 World Finals, MC, Mvp, Flash, and I believe Jaedong are the richest e-sport players of all-time with Fatality. Nope. edit: dunno actually. prize listings for a few people (such as NaDa) are incomplete. he might be up there too. it seems pretty close. | ||
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NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
On October 25 2012 10:47 Fionn wrote: Where does 10x the prize money come from? You do realize LoL is a team game, right? TPA might have won $1,000,000, but that's split between five people. Whoever wins WCS Global Finals will win $100,000 and then however much he/she made through the country and continental finals. All other tournaments like MLG/IPL who have both LoL and SC2 are usually the same prize pool, but the SC2 player gets $50,000 straight up while the LoL team has to split it five ways. Even with the insane winnings from The International and the S2 World Finals, MC, Mvp, Flash, and I believe Jaedong are the richest e-sport players of all-time with Fatality. well 1,000,000 is 10x 100,000. And even after being split 5 ways it is still 2x the prize money of what someone will win in the WCS finals. | ||
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redDuke
Australia207 Posts
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On October 25 2012 10:52 Malpractice.248 wrote: And thats fine, splitting money 5 ways, to earn 200k each. Thats cool. The real thing is that they have more viewers on streams = more $, more sponsorships... and the game is still growing. Riot does a great job with the community. Blizzard doesnt. Just because a game isnt starcraft doesnt mean theres no skill. There is skill. I agree about the skill part, it is just a different type of skill. Was gm in sc2, and barely 1500 average player in league.. Not trying to say one is easier than the other, but comparing them is irrelevant. All that matters is its hard to be at the top of league, the same way it is hard to be at the top of any other sport/game. | ||
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Wounded31
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Havik_
United States5585 Posts
On October 25 2012 10:00 NuKE[vZ] wrote: What do people really see in MoBA games? I think it's just stupid and talentless. Playing starcraft 2 is the opposite of any moba game. I agree with this. I played LoL, and I just found it boring. Also hearing about the low skill cap would turn me off of the game quickly. I have a big FPS background and I've seen what happens once I get into games with a low skill cap, I get bored very fast. | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
LoL S2 had 8 million unique viewers, and 1.2 million concurrent viewers online. That is several times the biggest of SC 2 events. | ||
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OopsOopsBaby
Singapore3425 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On October 25 2012 11:12 OopsOopsBaby wrote: Whether you split it among 5 players or not, 1,000,000 is still 10 x 100,000. Yeah. From: http://www.esportsearnings.com/players Look at the top players in this list. Besides Fatal1ty who plays multiple games, you have 2 BW players at the top who have won multiple star leagues, 2 SC players who have won multiple GSLs, 1 WC 3 player who was the highest earner in WC 3, and then there's a list of about 15 MOBA players who have won 1 big MOBA tournament. It's obvious that MOBA games are rapidly catapulting their winners to the top of the list. Had Na'Vi won TI 2, four of their players would be above virtually everyone but Fatal1ty and Flash. In a few years time, provided the same players continue to feature in the finals of LoL and Dota 2 tournaments, they're going to overtake SC 2 players very rapidly. The money is definitely in MOBA games for the best of the best. To SC's credit, though, it supports a larger mid-tier field than the MOBA games due to the availability of smaller tournaments. | ||
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skatblast
United States784 Posts
On October 25 2012 11:12 OopsOopsBaby wrote: Whether you split it among 5 players or not, 1,000,000 is still 10 x 100,000. Why do you care who has a bigger prize pool, are you planning on competing or something? I understand the need to have a fanbase for sc2, but believe it or not it doesn't always have to be at the very top for it to be successful. I think people just want to be "cool" and watch whatever has the most players. | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
On October 25 2012 11:20 Azarkon wrote: Yeah. From: http://www.esportsearnings.com/players Look at the top players in this list. You have 5 BW players at the top who have won multiple star leagues, and then there's a list of about 15 MOBA players. It's obvious that MOBA games are rapidly catapulting their winners to the top of the list. Had Na'Vi won TI 2, all five of their players would be above everyone but Flash and Fatal1ty, and I'm not sure about Flash because Na'Vi has won other tournaments too. In a few years time, provided the same players continue to feature in the finals of LoL and Dota 2 tournaments, they're going to overtake SC 2 players very rapidly. The money is definitely in MOBA games for the best of the best. To SC's credit, though, it supports a larger mid-tier field than the MOBA games due to the availability of smaller tournaments. Thats one of the websites I was looking at and like half of the tournaments NaDa has taken top 3 in aren't even listed. | ||
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