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Sata_
Profile Joined September 2011
Belgium82 Posts
October 25 2012 22:15 GMT
#421
this is sad
DirtyCash
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada189 Posts
October 26 2012 03:06 GMT
#422
On October 25 2012 22:43 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 22:17 Antyee wrote:
On October 25 2012 22:07 ACrow wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:53 HeroHenry wrote:
On October 25 2012 21:31 Snowbear wrote:
On October 25 2012 19:31 dragonsuper wrote:
Actually the difficulty in LOL is the sinergy of the team, not certainly the mechanics.

The problem here is the money goes where spectators are... and SC2 is boring so no spectators there anymore.

They could have supported BW more instead of forcing kespa to come to sc2.

Players cannot save a game that is boring by design.

Designers of Colossi ,ball of death ,clumping, anti micro spells , superdamage units, are really the sole responsible of this crysis.



The only viewers LoL gets are the people that play the game. I am sure a ton of people watch sc2 even tough they don't play it.

I still have to meet the first non-LoL player that actually likes the game. I gave it a chance, a ton of my friends gave it a chance, and guess what? It's so damn boring. The teamplay can be nice to watch, but the individual skill is just not special.

Let me explain why I think that fps games like counterstrike are much more suited to be an esportsgame: in counterstrike there are 2 things that can make you excited: 1) the teamplay (LoL has this, good), 2) the individual skill (aim, reaction time, movement, clutches) (LoL doesn't have this at all imo).

When I watch sc2 I can be really amazed by a player's speed, genius moves and builds, insane unit control, sick macro, etc. When I watch counterstrike I can be really amazed by a player's aim and movement, and by teamplay. I don't have that feeling with LoL, and I am not alone.

You talk about spectators leaving sc2? I don't agree at all. Look at recent tournament views, it's still insane. LoL has bigger viewers, I agree, but LoL is also a much more casual game. Isn't it logical that more people prefer casual games over the hard games? What do you want when you come home from a whole day of work? A game that requires sick speed, thinking and dedication or a game that requires only 10% of that? Look around you try to find someone with a competitive soul. You will notice that 80% of the people are 1) not competitive at all, 2) unable to take losses. Conclusion: LoL has more viewers because it has more players because it is much more casual and easier. Does this mean that sc2 is boring and dead?

Crysis? Because a few players are leaving sc2? What about 100+ kespa players moving to sc2? What about flash already providing us sick games, only after a few months of playing?

A lot of people don't play, but they watch doesn't really seem like all that. Starcraft 2 can't even break 50k veiwers...

Even Dreamhack Bucharest (a rather minor event with close to no big names in attendance) broke 50k. We had WCS Europe a while ago, exceeding 120k. So maybe, just maybe, don't talk out of your ass? Why is it that there are so many sore, depressed ex-BWfanbois-turned-LoLfanbois here spouting nonsense all week? It's getting annoying.

You should check these threads, and actually read the comments.
Most of the comments are retarded MOBA-haters writing nonsense or bragging about how much more skill SC requires.
And DH Bucharest didn't break 50k. At least people were posting a lot about how DH had less viewers than a single LoL player (Oddone with 20-25k).



On October 25 2012 22:14 SupLilSon wrote:
You do realize that lots of the LoL pros are players that failed miserably at going pro in HON/DOTA right? Chu was a great HON player but never could compete with the top of DOTA, in a month he became the best LoL player.

Shame non of this is true.
Chu hasn't done anything in LoL apart from grinding soloQ and failing in real competition with his team.


You know why he isn't playing DOTA? Because he wouldn't even find himself on a real pro team. Truth sucks bro.


You cant say anything about "Truth" when you just got caught lying about Chu becoming "the best LoL player in a month" (seriouslt wtf were you thinking? dudes not even good). It says a lot that you have to lie to make LoL look bad and your game look good.
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SuperFanBoy
Profile Joined June 2011
New Zealand1068 Posts
October 26 2012 14:25 GMT
#423
Awesome news! Now only if more sc2 players switch to LoL, I really wish Tyler would start playing LoL professionally instead of just for fun. Also would be amazing to have Artosis analysis for LoL commentaries, I wish he would switch too :D
The_Unseen
Profile Joined March 2011
France1923 Posts
October 26 2012 16:06 GMT
#424
I'm gonna miss him
I got five reasons for you to shut up
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 16:14:12
October 26 2012 16:14 GMT
#425
On October 26 2012 23:25 SuperFanBoy wrote:
Awesome news! Now only if more sc2 players switch to LoL, I really wish Tyler would start playing LoL professionally instead of just for fun. Also would be amazing to have Artosis analysis for LoL commentaries, I wish he would switch too :D

There is something to analyse in LoL? A lot of stuff to do for play-by-play guys, but outside the pick phase, I always thought there wasn't really that much to analyse. Besides, I doubt that Artosis even plays LoL.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
October 26 2012 16:15 GMT
#426
Chu was good at 1 hero in DotA a long time ago. Nowadays the scene is so much more competitive so he wouldn't stand a chance.
EnSky
Profile Joined June 2011
Philippines1003 Posts
October 26 2012 16:22 GMT
#427
One of my favorite terran players. Sad to see him leave the game.
aka_star
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United Kingdom1546 Posts
October 26 2012 16:30 GMT
#428
Noooooooo Stop this mass exodus pleaseeeeeee!
FlashDave.999 aka Star
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
October 26 2012 16:30 GMT
#429
I cannot wait for the "my game is better than your game" thought to die down. Seriously, sC likes LoL and wants to play it in the place of SC2. His fans will still cheer for him, LoL will be happy, And the world still turns.
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-26 17:01:52
October 26 2012 17:01 GMT
#430
On October 27 2012 01:30 GreYMisT wrote:
I cannot wait for the "my game is better than your game" thought to die down. Seriously, sC likes LoL and wants to play it in the place of SC2. His fans will still cheer for him, LoL will be happy, And the world still turns.

Why wouldn't I think that my game is better than another game, if I didn't think so then I'd play that game, wouldn't I?

But I know what you probably mean, I wish people would stop coming to another game's forum telling them that their game is going to die/ the foreign game is better, or stopped being condescending, trolls and so on. But alas, this is the internet, I'm afraid we'll have to live through it.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 26 2012 17:03 GMT
#431
Another one bites the dust. It's always disappointing to see a player give up.
Turn off the radio
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1181 Posts
October 26 2012 17:20 GMT
#432
awwww that's too bad, I really liked sC's play back in the days... I think we all remember the constant stream of marines, which was quite new at the time. Really nice player, I hope he stays healthy ^^ sC hwaiting!
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