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On October 24 2012 13:51 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 13:48 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On October 24 2012 13:46 lichter wrote:On October 24 2012 13:43 achan1058 wrote:On October 24 2012 13:42 lichter wrote:
Did Jessica directly (as in, she herself) reject the sponsorship, or did someone from SlayerS management (possibly J? or someone else) reject the offer according to her (supposed) directions? Seriously if people are going to be releasing info they need to be absolutely clear so there aren't any loopholes. Read the tweet. It was asked who rejected it, Jessica or J? The response was Jessica. Yes, but it could have been done by someone else according to Jessica's orders. Jessica's english isn't very good, and it was stated that manager J was in charge of the team's social media, some sponsorships and communication with foreign entities. So the info needs to be REALLY clear so no one can make any more excuses. Who were Razer talking to directly, and who specifically said no to the sponsorship. Because if it turns out Razer were talking to manager J then Jessica's story makes sense. But if it was Jessica directly, then she's got more explaining to do (omg do we even want this) (not on Jessica's side, I just want things to be really clear) Did you even read the tweet? They asked him who rejected it was it Manager J or Jessica. He said Jessica. It's still vague enough that Jessica (or whoever else) can wiggle out of it. =/
It's true, although she has to wiggle out of lying to MMA as well
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On October 24 2012 13:36 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 13:35 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 13:27 Canucklehead wrote:On October 24 2012 13:23 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 13:20 Mozzery wrote:On October 24 2012 13:01 Popkiller wrote:
Goro Shigeno @Goro87:
@MitchellChris But the million dollar question is what happened to mma's personal sponsorship?Did it go to boxer like MMA thought?Withdrawn?
Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris:
@Goro87 It was rejected.
Goro Shigeno @Goro87:
@MitchellChris Oh boy now there's opening a can of worms. Rejected by who, manager J or Jessica? That ? is a key part of drama.
Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris:
@Goro87 Jessica.
...That's all, folks. This is front page news, this is HUGE. This blows open the whole thing, manager J was RIGHT, even I thought that was a stretch and one of the least likely scenarios! Ya , this is such a piece of official statement by razor. I believe every single word of it. It doesn't have to be official. That razer guy deals with sponsorships for them. He was on chanman v's show recently talking about sponsorships. I'd believe him to know if razer intended to sponsor MMA. I don't know if the sponsorship he is talking about is the same one as what the whole manager J thing is about. DO NOTE that Jessica used company N and S, however I believed she used company R to refer to Razor sometime back ( i think it is when she was talking about manager J being a former employer of Razor? ) Also, in manager MMA's account, Jessica took the sponsorship and GAVE TO Boxer, but Christ is saying Jessica turned down his offer. I can't help but wonder if they are talking about the same incident here. Thats all im saying. Some random tweet does not give so much detail as to determine what was really going on. It doesn't have to be the same sponsorship account, nor do the details need to match up. What matters is that Jessica rejected a personal sponsorship offer that was supposed to go to MMA for whatever reason and confirms that MMA did have reason to be worried and "gullible."
Of course it matters. Because we know nothing about this very sponsorship. And Jessica might have reached an agreement with MMA to turn it down and did it on his behalf. Im saying MIGHT here. Really there is no information and you guys are drawing to a conclusion too quick. What Christ says might mean a lot, and it might also mean nothing. If only there are information like when this sponsorship was given, it is going to help the situation a lot. But nothing!
Also, there is actually a part in Jessica's first account on the matter how Slayers lost all the sponsors. I believe she said manager J was meddling with the negotiation giving sponsors ridiculous terms and stuff. Obviously when you delegate such negotiation to a questionable character ( YES YES YES J might be a good guy but just follow the logic here), this guy might have told Jessica that the sponsors are asking for ridiculous stuff too ! Maybe thats why the sponsorship was turned down?
Lastly, Razor announced withdrawal of sponsorship to slayers 19 June. If the personal offer was made after that, Jessica has perfect reason to reject it as most likely the offer will now allow any competitor to sponsor MMA( team sponsorship should be included, MMA cannot wear competitor's logo and stuff right?). As a manager, I believe the smart thing to do is to turn it down, so that it is possible to find interested competitor of Razor to sponsor the whole team ! And MMA as a member of the team, has to make certain necessary sacrifice.
Im not trying to defend Jessica and Boxer, just saying, do not jump to conclusion too fast. The mud may be much deeper than you thought.
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On October 24 2012 13:42 bduddy wrote:
I'm not really invested in either side, so before jumping to conclusions I would like to know: Why did Jessica refuse the sponsorship? Did she think it was too little, did it conflict with one of Slayers' sponsors, was it a miscommunication of some kind, or what? Although I agree that she has not proven herself to be a good manager, she doesn't seem like she would just reject this sponsorship out of spite or whatever. Yet again, everyone should wait for the other side of the story before jumping to conclusions and rushing to attack the "other side"...
Exactly!
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On October 24 2012 13:51 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 13:48 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On October 24 2012 13:46 lichter wrote:On October 24 2012 13:43 achan1058 wrote:On October 24 2012 13:42 lichter wrote:
Did Jessica directly (as in, she herself) reject the sponsorship, or did someone from SlayerS management (possibly J? or someone else) reject the offer according to her (supposed) directions? Seriously if people are going to be releasing info they need to be absolutely clear so there aren't any loopholes. Read the tweet. It was asked who rejected it, Jessica or J? The response was Jessica. Yes, but it could have been done by someone else according to Jessica's orders. Jessica's english isn't very good, and it was stated that manager J was in charge of the team's social media, some sponsorships and communication with foreign entities. So the info needs to be REALLY clear so no one can make any more excuses. Who were Razer talking to directly, and who specifically said no to the sponsorship. Because if it turns out Razer were talking to manager J then Jessica's story makes sense. But if it was Jessica directly, then she's got more explaining to do (omg do we even want this) (not on Jessica's side, I just want things to be really clear) Did you even read the tweet? They asked him who rejected it was it Manager J or Jessica. He said Jessica. It's still vague enough that Jessica (or whoever else) can wiggle out of it. =/
lol how? Its pretty damn clear.
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On October 24 2012 13:47 dsousa wrote:
Razer wants to give MMA money for simply doing what he does..... Jessica rejects it because they won't also give the deal to Boxer.
Bad management is bad at managing.
Its not like a sponsorship requires anything in return.... all MMA would have had to do was accept cash and continue to play SC2.
So bad.
Its hilarious that someone who mismanaged the team so badly would also mismanage her exit and misjudge the situation.
This is all self inflicted by Jessica...... and she's so deserving of it.
Sponsors require nothing in return ? It is not charity kiddo. You gonna wear the logo and you cannot receive sponsorship from his competitors ! Joke
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On October 24 2012 13:54 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 13:51 lichter wrote:On October 24 2012 13:48 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On October 24 2012 13:46 lichter wrote:On October 24 2012 13:43 achan1058 wrote:On October 24 2012 13:42 lichter wrote:
Did Jessica directly (as in, she herself) reject the sponsorship, or did someone from SlayerS management (possibly J? or someone else) reject the offer according to her (supposed) directions? Seriously if people are going to be releasing info they need to be absolutely clear so there aren't any loopholes. Read the tweet. It was asked who rejected it, Jessica or J? The response was Jessica. Yes, but it could have been done by someone else according to Jessica's orders. Jessica's english isn't very good, and it was stated that manager J was in charge of the team's social media, some sponsorships and communication with foreign entities. So the info needs to be REALLY clear so no one can make any more excuses. Who were Razer talking to directly, and who specifically said no to the sponsorship. Because if it turns out Razer were talking to manager J then Jessica's story makes sense. But if it was Jessica directly, then she's got more explaining to do (omg do we even want this) (not on Jessica's side, I just want things to be really clear) Did you even read the tweet? They asked him who rejected it was it Manager J or Jessica. He said Jessica. It's still vague enough that Jessica (or whoever else) can wiggle out of it. =/ lol how? Its pretty damn clear.
She'll say: "omg no phonecall recordings or skypechat logs, lol" :p
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On October 24 2012 13:02 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 13:01 Popkiller wrote:
Goro Shigeno @Goro87:
@MitchellChris But the million dollar question is what happened to mma's personal sponsorship?Did it go to boxer like MMA thought?Withdrawn?
Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris:
@Goro87 It was rejected.
Goro Shigeno @Goro87:
@MitchellChris Oh boy now there's opening a can of worms. Rejected by who, manager J or Jessica? That ? is a key part of drama.
Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris:
@Goro87 Jessica.
...That's all, folks. Oh ....... dear.
doesn't that mean jessica rejected the sponsorship rather than shift it to boxer?
me confused
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On October 24 2012 13:52 Xiaopewpew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 13:36 babylon wrote:On October 24 2012 13:35 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 13:27 Canucklehead wrote:On October 24 2012 13:23 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 13:20 Mozzery wrote:On October 24 2012 13:01 Popkiller wrote:
Goro Shigeno @Goro87:
@MitchellChris But the million dollar question is what happened to mma's personal sponsorship?Did it go to boxer like MMA thought?Withdrawn?
Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris:
@Goro87 It was rejected.
Goro Shigeno @Goro87:
@MitchellChris Oh boy now there's opening a can of worms. Rejected by who, manager J or Jessica? That ? is a key part of drama.
Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris:
@Goro87 Jessica.
...That's all, folks. This is front page news, this is HUGE. This blows open the whole thing, manager J was RIGHT, even I thought that was a stretch and one of the least likely scenarios! Ya , this is such a piece of official statement by razor. I believe every single word of it. It doesn't have to be official. That razer guy deals with sponsorships for them. He was on chanman v's show recently talking about sponsorships. I'd believe him to know if razer intended to sponsor MMA. I don't know if the sponsorship he is talking about is the same one as what the whole manager J thing is about. DO NOTE that Jessica used company N and S, however I believed she used company R to refer to Razor sometime back ( i think it is when she was talking about manager J being a former employer of Razor? ) Also, in manager MMA's account, Jessica took the sponsorship and GAVE TO Boxer, but Christ is saying Jessica turned down his offer. I can't help but wonder if they are talking about the same incident here. Thats all im saying. Some random tweet does not give so much detail as to determine what was really going on. It doesn't have to be the same sponsorship account, nor do the details need to match up. What matters is that Jessica rejected a personal sponsorship offer that was supposed to go to MMA for whatever reason and confirms that MMA did have reason to be worried and "gullible." Of course it matters. Because we know nothing about this very sponsorship. And Jessica might have reached an agreement with MMA to turn it down and did it on his behalf. Im saying MIGHT here. Really there is no information and you guys are drawing to a conclusion too quick. What Christ says might mean a lot, and it might also mean nothing. If only there are information like when this sponsorship was given, it is going to help the situation a lot. But nothing! Also, there is actually a part in Jessica's first account on the matter how Slayers lost all the sponsors. I believe she said manager J was meddling with the negotiation giving sponsors ridiculous terms and stuff. Obviously when you delegate such negotiation to a questionable character ( YES YES YES J might be a good guy but just follow the logic here), this guy might have told Jessica that the sponsors are asking for ridiculous stuff too ! Maybe thats why the sponsorship was turned down? Lastly, Razor announced withdrawal of sponsorship to slayers 19 June. If the personal offer was made after that, Jessica has perfect reason to reject it as most likely the offer will now allow any competitor to sponsor MMA( team sponsorship should be included, MMA cannot wear competitor's logo and stuff right?). As a manager, I believe the smart thing to do is to turn it down, so that it is possible to find interested competitor of Razor to sponsor the whole team ! And MMA as a member of the team, has to make certain necessary sacrifice. Im not trying to defend Jessica and Boxer, just saying, do not jump to conclusion too fast. The mud may be much deeper than you thought.
someone with a rational mind
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On October 24 2012 13:53 Xiaopewpew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 13:42 bduddy wrote:
I'm not really invested in either side, so before jumping to conclusions I would like to know: Why did Jessica refuse the sponsorship? Did she think it was too little, did it conflict with one of Slayers' sponsors, was it a miscommunication of some kind, or what? Although I agree that she has not proven herself to be a good manager, she doesn't seem like she would just reject this sponsorship out of spite or whatever. Yet again, everyone should wait for the other side of the story before jumping to conclusions and rushing to attack the "other side"... Exactly!
She rejected it because she ALSO wanted it for Boxer.... and she was using MMA to get Boxer the great sponsorship as well. She was using it as a negotiation ploy.
She gambled with MMA's sponsorship to try and get Boxer one too.
But thats me jumping to conclusions again  Take it for what its worth.
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On October 24 2012 13:55 lichter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 13:54 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 24 2012 13:51 lichter wrote:On October 24 2012 13:48 DrakeFZX3 wrote:On October 24 2012 13:46 lichter wrote:On October 24 2012 13:43 achan1058 wrote:On October 24 2012 13:42 lichter wrote:
Did Jessica directly (as in, she herself) reject the sponsorship, or did someone from SlayerS management (possibly J? or someone else) reject the offer according to her (supposed) directions? Seriously if people are going to be releasing info they need to be absolutely clear so there aren't any loopholes. Read the tweet. It was asked who rejected it, Jessica or J? The response was Jessica. Yes, but it could have been done by someone else according to Jessica's orders. Jessica's english isn't very good, and it was stated that manager J was in charge of the team's social media, some sponsorships and communication with foreign entities. So the info needs to be REALLY clear so no one can make any more excuses. Who were Razer talking to directly, and who specifically said no to the sponsorship. Because if it turns out Razer were talking to manager J then Jessica's story makes sense. But if it was Jessica directly, then she's got more explaining to do (omg do we even want this) (not on Jessica's side, I just want things to be really clear) Did you even read the tweet? They asked him who rejected it was it Manager J or Jessica. He said Jessica. It's still vague enough that Jessica (or whoever else) can wiggle out of it. =/ lol how? Its pretty damn clear. She'll say: "omg no phonecall recordings or skypechat logs, lol" :p
google translate of her tweets reveals 'email conversations'. unless google is being crappy, which is a possibility. either way im expecting more 'leaks'
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On October 24 2012 13:55 Xiaopewpew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 13:47 dsousa wrote:
Razer wants to give MMA money for simply doing what he does..... Jessica rejects it because they won't also give the deal to Boxer.
Bad management is bad at managing.
Its not like a sponsorship requires anything in return.... all MMA would have had to do was accept cash and continue to play SC2.
So bad.
Its hilarious that someone who mismanaged the team so badly would also mismanage her exit and misjudge the situation.
This is all self inflicted by Jessica...... and she's so deserving of it. Sponsors require nothing in return ? It is not charity kiddo. You gonna wear the logo and you cannot receive sponsorship from his competitors ! Joke
The point is the sponsorship would COST Slayers nothing.... except the stitching costs on his jersey. Why reject it? Sewing on a logo is cheap.
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I personally wonder how would the rest of the entertainment industry look at this. She seems to be too dangerous of a person to sign into any acting contract.
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On October 24 2012 13:56 dsousa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 13:53 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 13:42 bduddy wrote:
I'm not really invested in either side, so before jumping to conclusions I would like to know: Why did Jessica refuse the sponsorship? Did she think it was too little, did it conflict with one of Slayers' sponsors, was it a miscommunication of some kind, or what? Although I agree that she has not proven herself to be a good manager, she doesn't seem like she would just reject this sponsorship out of spite or whatever. Yet again, everyone should wait for the other side of the story before jumping to conclusions and rushing to attack the "other side"... Exactly! She rejected it because she ALSO wanted it for Boxer.... and she was using MMA to get Boxer the great sponsorship as well. She was using it as a negotiation ploy. She gambled with MMA's sponsorship to try and get Boxer one too. But thats me jumping to conclusions again Take it for what its worth.
Ok , so Razor logic is that if we cant sponsor MMA, all the money to Boxer !!! hmmmmm interesting. Explain your thought process please?
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https://twitter.com/MitchellChris
"To clarify: The proposal was rejected by Jessica, but i dont know how it's been translated by "Manager J". Both were copied."
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Goro Shigeno @Goro87
@MitchellChris Oh boy now there's opening a can of worms. Rejected by who, manager J or Jessica? That ? is a key part of drama.
Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris
@Goro87 Jessica.
@MitchellChris @Goro87 Jessica DIRECTLY? Or someone acting on her/slayers management's behalf?
Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris
@SaintSnorlax @Goro87 Directly, although god knows how my English was translated to Korean."
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On October 24 2012 14:01 Xiaopewpew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 13:56 dsousa wrote:On October 24 2012 13:53 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 13:42 bduddy wrote:
I'm not really invested in either side, so before jumping to conclusions I would like to know: Why did Jessica refuse the sponsorship? Did she think it was too little, did it conflict with one of Slayers' sponsors, was it a miscommunication of some kind, or what? Although I agree that she has not proven herself to be a good manager, she doesn't seem like she would just reject this sponsorship out of spite or whatever. Yet again, everyone should wait for the other side of the story before jumping to conclusions and rushing to attack the "other side"... Exactly! She rejected it because she ALSO wanted it for Boxer.... and she was using MMA to get Boxer the great sponsorship as well. She was using it as a negotiation ploy. She gambled with MMA's sponsorship to try and get Boxer one too. But thats me jumping to conclusions again Take it for what its worth. Ok , so Razor logic is that if we cant sponsor MMA, all the money to Boxer !!! hmmmmm interesting. Explain your thought process please?
Boxer was not sponsored by Razer afterwards. If anything, if I had to make wild claims, it'd be: "IF NOT BOXER, THEN NO ONE! WHY SPONSOR MMA WHEN YOU CAN SPONSOR BOXER?" And then they didn't sponsor Boxer. Lol.
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On October 24 2012 13:52 Xiaopewpew wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 13:36 babylon wrote:On October 24 2012 13:35 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 13:27 Canucklehead wrote:On October 24 2012 13:23 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 13:20 Mozzery wrote:On October 24 2012 13:01 Popkiller wrote:
Goro Shigeno @Goro87:
@MitchellChris But the million dollar question is what happened to mma's personal sponsorship?Did it go to boxer like MMA thought?Withdrawn?
Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris:
@Goro87 It was rejected.
Goro Shigeno @Goro87:
@MitchellChris Oh boy now there's opening a can of worms. Rejected by who, manager J or Jessica? That ? is a key part of drama.
Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris:
@Goro87 Jessica.
...That's all, folks. This is front page news, this is HUGE. This blows open the whole thing, manager J was RIGHT, even I thought that was a stretch and one of the least likely scenarios! Ya , this is such a piece of official statement by razor. I believe every single word of it. It doesn't have to be official. That razer guy deals with sponsorships for them. He was on chanman v's show recently talking about sponsorships. I'd believe him to know if razer intended to sponsor MMA. I don't know if the sponsorship he is talking about is the same one as what the whole manager J thing is about. DO NOTE that Jessica used company N and S, however I believed she used company R to refer to Razor sometime back ( i think it is when she was talking about manager J being a former employer of Razor? ) Also, in manager MMA's account, Jessica took the sponsorship and GAVE TO Boxer, but Christ is saying Jessica turned down his offer. I can't help but wonder if they are talking about the same incident here. Thats all im saying. Some random tweet does not give so much detail as to determine what was really going on. It doesn't have to be the same sponsorship account, nor do the details need to match up. What matters is that Jessica rejected a personal sponsorship offer that was supposed to go to MMA for whatever reason and confirms that MMA did have reason to be worried and "gullible." Of course it matters. Because we know nothing about this very sponsorship. And Jessica might have reached an agreement with MMA to turn it down and did it on his behalf. Im saying MIGHT here. Really there is no information and you guys are drawing to a conclusion too quick. What Christ says might mean a lot, and it might also mean nothing. If only there are information like when this sponsorship was given, it is going to help the situation a lot. But nothing! Also, there is actually a part in Jessica's first account on the matter how Slayers lost all the sponsors. I believe she said manager J was meddling with the negotiation giving sponsors ridiculous terms and stuff. Obviously when you delegate such negotiation to a questionable character ( YES YES YES J might be a good guy but just follow the logic here), this guy might have told Jessica that the sponsors are asking for ridiculous stuff too ! Maybe thats why the sponsorship was turned down? Lastly, Razor announced withdrawal of sponsorship to slayers 19 June. If the personal offer was made after that, Jessica has perfect reason to reject it as most likely the offer will now allow any competitor to sponsor MMA( team sponsorship should be included, MMA cannot wear competitor's logo and stuff right?). As a manager, I believe the smart thing to do is to turn it down, so that it is possible to find interested competitor of Razor to sponsor the whole team ! And MMA as a member of the team, has to make certain necessary sacrifice. Im not trying to defend Jessica and Boxer, just saying, do not jump to conclusion too fast. The mud may be much deeper than you thought.
As a manager, you should keep your players informed especially if it involves them.
How can you foster trust if you make decisions haphazardly as Jessica has shown time and time again? I'd be willing to give her the benefit of the doubt if she didn't have an entire history of jumping the gun.
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On October 24 2012 13:58 dsousa wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 13:55 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 13:47 dsousa wrote:
Razer wants to give MMA money for simply doing what he does..... Jessica rejects it because they won't also give the deal to Boxer.
Bad management is bad at managing.
Its not like a sponsorship requires anything in return.... all MMA would have had to do was accept cash and continue to play SC2.
So bad.
Its hilarious that someone who mismanaged the team so badly would also mismanage her exit and misjudge the situation.
This is all self inflicted by Jessica...... and she's so deserving of it. Sponsors require nothing in return ? It is not charity kiddo. You gonna wear the logo and you cannot receive sponsorship from his competitors ! Joke The point is the sponsorship would COST Slayers nothing.... except the stitching costs on his jersey. Why reject it? Sewing on a logo is cheap.
If the personal offer was indeed made on Feb, I think it should be quite set that Razor would stop sponsoring Team Slayers in June right ( Withdrawal of sponsorship cannot be to rush of a decision I think) ? If a player get personal sponsorship from Razor, obviously he would not be wearing jersey with logo of competitors, which, may be interested in sponsoring Team Slayers after Razor pulls out. This might be a concern at that time. You asked for a reason to reject the sponsorship, I just gave you one. Q.E.D
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On October 24 2012 14:02 NovemberstOrm wrote:https://twitter.com/MitchellChris"To clarify: The proposal was rejected by Jessica, but i dont know how it's been translated by "Manager J". Both were copied." " Goro Shigeno @Goro87 @MitchellChris Oh boy now there's opening a can of worms. Rejected by who, manager J or Jessica? That ? is a key part of drama. Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris @Goro87 Jessica. @MitchellChris @Goro87 Jessica DIRECTLY? Or someone acting on her/slayers management's behalf? Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris @SaintSnorlax @Goro87 Directly, although god knows how my English was translated to Korean." So basically it was supposedly rejected by Jessica, but actually manager J was acting as an intermediary. So if he was really as shady as Jessica claims, then...?
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On October 23 2012 05:23 Fionn wrote:
What MMA said is probably true, but his image in Korea is about to get smashed. Boxer and Jessica might have screamed, fought, and had relationship problems, but who do you think Boxer is going to side with? He's obviously going to just call MMA a liar, cancer, etc. and side with his girlfriend/fiance/wife/whatever she is. Since Boxer is a God in Korea, everyone is going to side with him and shun MMA.
aren't a lot of Boxer's fans resentful of Jessica? Mightn't they therefore like MMA for affirming their 'suspicions' despite whatever Boxer might say? (So they would see any anti-MMA statement as a reflection of his loyalty to Jessica)
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On October 24 2012 14:04 DrakeFZX3 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2012 13:52 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 13:36 babylon wrote:On October 24 2012 13:35 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 13:27 Canucklehead wrote:On October 24 2012 13:23 Xiaopewpew wrote:On October 24 2012 13:20 Mozzery wrote:On October 24 2012 13:01 Popkiller wrote:
Goro Shigeno @Goro87:
@MitchellChris But the million dollar question is what happened to mma's personal sponsorship?Did it go to boxer like MMA thought?Withdrawn?
Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris:
@Goro87 It was rejected.
Goro Shigeno @Goro87:
@MitchellChris Oh boy now there's opening a can of worms. Rejected by who, manager J or Jessica? That ? is a key part of drama.
Chris Mitchell @MitchellChris:
@Goro87 Jessica.
...That's all, folks. This is front page news, this is HUGE. This blows open the whole thing, manager J was RIGHT, even I thought that was a stretch and one of the least likely scenarios! Ya , this is such a piece of official statement by razor. I believe every single word of it. It doesn't have to be official. That razer guy deals with sponsorships for them. He was on chanman v's show recently talking about sponsorships. I'd believe him to know if razer intended to sponsor MMA. I don't know if the sponsorship he is talking about is the same one as what the whole manager J thing is about. DO NOTE that Jessica used company N and S, however I believed she used company R to refer to Razor sometime back ( i think it is when she was talking about manager J being a former employer of Razor? ) Also, in manager MMA's account, Jessica took the sponsorship and GAVE TO Boxer, but Christ is saying Jessica turned down his offer. I can't help but wonder if they are talking about the same incident here. Thats all im saying. Some random tweet does not give so much detail as to determine what was really going on. It doesn't have to be the same sponsorship account, nor do the details need to match up. What matters is that Jessica rejected a personal sponsorship offer that was supposed to go to MMA for whatever reason and confirms that MMA did have reason to be worried and "gullible." Of course it matters. Because we know nothing about this very sponsorship. And Jessica might have reached an agreement with MMA to turn it down and did it on his behalf. Im saying MIGHT here. Really there is no information and you guys are drawing to a conclusion too quick. What Christ says might mean a lot, and it might also mean nothing. If only there are information like when this sponsorship was given, it is going to help the situation a lot. But nothing! Also, there is actually a part in Jessica's first account on the matter how Slayers lost all the sponsors. I believe she said manager J was meddling with the negotiation giving sponsors ridiculous terms and stuff. Obviously when you delegate such negotiation to a questionable character ( YES YES YES J might be a good guy but just follow the logic here), this guy might have told Jessica that the sponsors are asking for ridiculous stuff too ! Maybe thats why the sponsorship was turned down? Lastly, Razor announced withdrawal of sponsorship to slayers 19 June. If the personal offer was made after that, Jessica has perfect reason to reject it as most likely the offer will now allow any competitor to sponsor MMA( team sponsorship should be included, MMA cannot wear competitor's logo and stuff right?). As a manager, I believe the smart thing to do is to turn it down, so that it is possible to find interested competitor of Razor to sponsor the whole team ! And MMA as a member of the team, has to make certain necessary sacrifice. Im not trying to defend Jessica and Boxer, just saying, do not jump to conclusion too fast. The mud may be much deeper than you thought. As a manager, you should keep your players informed especially if it involves them. How can you foster trust if you make decisions haphazardly as Jessica has shown time and time again? I'd be willing to give her the benefit of the doubt if she didn't have an entire history of jumping the gun.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. But as I said in previous posts. The razor sponsorship might not be the same incident that MMA and Jessica are talking about. We know nothing about it. That is all im saying.
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