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dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 21:42:58
October 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#221
Both of these are incredibly one-sided perspectives, but MMA's does still seem more reasonable for the sole reason that it was heavily inferred that they would get pay after they got sponsors and instead they payed Slayers a lot of money and got very little in return.
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
October 22 2012 21:42 GMT
#222
Ouch- looks like boxer's love life is breaking down and made him quit playing sc2... I remember I was so happy to see Boxer back in Code S Season1 of this year. Hopefully this shit storm settles down and the players can move on to other teams peacefully.
Long live the Boss Toss!
BRaegO
Profile Joined November 2010
United States243 Posts
October 22 2012 21:43 GMT
#223
On October 23 2012 06:41 Shiori wrote:
This community is incredibly biased against Jessica. It's kinda sad, honestly. I've no doubt that that she was to blame in some capacity for the Slayers drama, but to characterize her as malicious or evil or the sole problem is presumptive at best and dishonest otherwise. We don't have access to the truth here. It's in the best interests of the players to come up with a story that will allow them to continue to play Sc2 competitively. I don't mean to say that they're lying, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they'd omitted details or put a positive spin on events in which they were more complicit than they'd care to admit.

Jessica may be overbearing, but it's clear that she really does care about her players in a sort of motherly fashion. While that may have been her downfall, her statement doesn't suddenly fly out the window because MMA released a different version. The intelligent thing to do would be to try and find out which of the statements is actually accurate, not presume the one from everyone's favourite Terran is correct just because he made a controversial comment about Boxer.

(On a side note, I'm amazed that all these people who have never been to Korea are suddenly talking as if MMA's accusation about Boxer quitting because of Jessica is some sort of infallible comment simply because of how important it is).


This is a well done "devil's advocate" statement. Cheers~
_B L/IN K YOUREYES /1 FOR YES 2 F_OR NO
awwnuts07
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States621 Posts
October 22 2012 21:44 GMT
#224
Someone in Korea needs to make tv drama about this.
I'm a noob
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
October 22 2012 21:44 GMT
#225
On October 23 2012 06:34 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 06:30 magicmUnky wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:27 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:24 namori wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:20 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:18 Denzil wrote:
hard to believe MMAs account when every paragraph is shitting on jessica

but its easy to believe jessica's account when its shitting on everyone else?

no, but I am seeing a lot of "Oh shit, MMA says different so Jessica is a bitch!" comments in here.


Because TL is full misogynist neckbeards who live on their parents basement

Really? the level of stupidity and bullshit generalization you just managed to squeeze into one sentence has to be some kind of record... -.-


Dunno man, relative to all the "oh MMA i feel so bad for you, poor boy... don't worry we will vilify that evil Jessica :'(" I'm pretty sure that guy's statement was encyclopedia quality.

Not even close.... Jessica has done much in the past to deserve most of these view points. Siding with/feeling sorry for MMA does not mean they hate all women and live in their parents basement. She has been causing drama since she came into the scene.

Seeing Jessica as evil =/= a misogynist neckbeard -.- It was a fucking god awful post. End of story.


Yeah this guy you've quoted obviously hasn't seen the old shit storm that jessica put on, on twitter. Everyone remembers that debacle. Tweet after tweet after tweet towards alot of people and just out in the public. Pissed SC2 fans off on twitter seeing all the trash that went on. Hell even now with the back and forth between MC and Jessica a few days ago. The SC2 twitter translation people wouldnt even touch those tweet. Some nice person from the TL community came out and had to translate them for us so we knew what was going on.
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 22 2012 21:44 GMT
#226
Need like a third party probe to go in and investigate this shit lol.

It's impossible to draw conclusions with all the contradictory information out there now.
Hello
dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 21:44:53
October 22 2012 21:44 GMT
#227
I think former Slayers should stop talking about Jessica and just let her fade into the background.

I've always sided with the players in the dispute with Slayers, but I think its clear that she is willing to burn everything down around her to get the last word in and she's not worth getting into a fight with.

She has nothing left but to save face and the lengths she'll go to do so scare me.

Just get your release, move on and learn your lesson.

That's my advice to former Slayers employees. Especially Cella.... that guy has a bright future IMHO.
4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
October 22 2012 21:45 GMT
#228
All things considered, MMA's statement seems to me like the first one that aknowledges all sides of what really happened inside Slayers.
T-oastbro-T
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany378 Posts
October 22 2012 21:45 GMT
#229
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Honestly, I hope that all of the players get settled somehow and continue playing successfully. I always enjoyed watching MMA's matches. I'm not sure what all the mud-slinging now is supposed to accomplish (and no, ending each interview with "I'm sorry for everything and it's no one's fault really" doesn't negate whole paragraphs of bickering beforehand).
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
October 22 2012 21:46 GMT
#230
I for one am blown away that the skills of an ex-actress who probably couldn't beat the WoL campaign were insufficient to effectively manage a professional Starcraft team.

I was really lollin when I read the part about her reading forums and then trying to backseat drive Boxer's strats. I don't know why more teams don't try that!
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
Ghostface_Killa
Profile Joined March 2011
United States168 Posts
October 22 2012 21:47 GMT
#231
On October 23 2012 05:52 zocktol wrote:
Is Manager J snowbird, because he speaks korean, english and german AND is involved in SC2 esports?

I mean it seems like it, because he says so in this interview:
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He also mentions his love for SOCCER.

Could he be J?!?!
Arrested for what, baby? Being awesome?
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
October 22 2012 21:47 GMT
#232
On October 23 2012 06:39 amazingoopah wrote:
Boxer should have clearly delineated Jessica's influence (or lack thereof) within the team when slayers was founded. When he gave her so much power in the team, he was inevitably asking for the types of situations where it was either siding with his players or siding with his fiance... either a lose-lose position for both his personal and professional relationships.


The thing about Boxer is that he always wanted to be a player first. He wanted that in SKT as well after he returned from the army, and he switched to Starcraft 2 specifically to play the game, not to coach or manage anyone. The original Slayers was made out mostly from a bunch of teamless players that practiced with Boxer after he switched.

It was always going to be somebody else that would actually run and manage the team, and Jessica was the easiest choice (or perhaps it was too difficult to make a different choice).
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
October 22 2012 21:47 GMT
#233
so much drama.
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
nukkuj
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Finland403 Posts
October 22 2012 21:47 GMT
#234
So much hate in these threads

It's not going to make things better to point fingers when everything is ruined. I'm very very sad about BoxeR quitting. I hope MMA picks up the pieces and gets his old form back soon in a new team.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 21:48:58
October 22 2012 21:48 GMT
#235
So MMA just committed medial suicide in the korean community. They seem to treat boxer like a god, no chance for MMA, even everything he said was absolutely true, he's pretty dead!
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
October 22 2012 21:48 GMT
#236
Keep your head up MMA, you'll get back up there on a new team! I hope you and everyone involved gets out of this without too much damage!
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
Nevertras
Profile Joined October 2011
United States27 Posts
October 22 2012 21:49 GMT
#237
PR is PR. None of us knows what happened. MMA was right in that we should be taking an objective view in this rather than siding with 'I hate Jessica and MMA is a victim, rawr rawr rawr!' or 'MMA is evil, poor Jessica, rawr rawr rawr!'

I mean, really, what's the point? What does this get us? No matter whose side you take, you can't pretend you know everything that happened. No matter whose side you take, all you're doing is adding to the drama. Does it matter who's 'right' at this point?

The cat's out of the bag now, so we can't just pretend nothing happened... but we can at least try to be productive. Instead of focusing blame, maybe we should try to figure out what can be done in the future to avoid this kind of shitstorm. This happened with the TSL transfer scandal too. Emotions run wild, a clusterfuck of blame occurs.

Hopefully we can all at least learn not to let emotions run away with us in the future. Hopefully teams will learn not to let bad feelings fester and promote better communication. Hopefully the next time something like this comes along, we can move on a little more smoothly and get back to some awesome games.

Hopefully.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
October 22 2012 21:49 GMT
#238
On October 23 2012 06:48 TeeTS wrote:
So MMA just committed medial suicide in the korean community. They seem to treat boxer like a god, no chance for MMA, even everything he said was absolutely true!

now the question is
how do you know what _anyone_ says is true/the truth?
Twitter: @zhurai | Site: http://zhurai.com
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
October 22 2012 21:49 GMT
#239
What a mess. The entire environment in that team sounded toxic. At the end of the day, seeing these two kids having to repeatedly apologise because of elder-worship makes me sick.

If there's a massive problem in a team-house, and you have two adults over 30 who have the purse-strings and all the authority, then I'm going to say that the bulk of the responsibility is there's. Who calls someone 'cancer' anyway? Jesus.
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Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
October 22 2012 21:49 GMT
#240
This is so sad.... MMA, if you ever read this , we love you <3
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
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