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Mambo
Profile Joined February 2012
Denmark1338 Posts
October 22 2012 21:35 GMT
#201
I couldnt understand much of the crank translation. Something must have been lost in translation.
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yoshi245
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2969 Posts
October 22 2012 21:35 GMT
#202
On October 23 2012 06:32 Fungal Growth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 06:28 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:26 Fungal Growth wrote:
Out of curiosity have Dragon or Cella made comments on the team situation?


I hope they wont. Because there is nothing more to be said. This whole thing went too far public. I hope they get their shit together, and be silent until end of times. There is nothing one can say to make things better.
I disagree. Often times it is best to be open and honest about conflicts else you just brood and you have poisonous situations like what we had with Slayer's. Sounds like if their had been more openess and more communication earlier, many of these issues would have been avoided.


Well it's not for the lack of trying. Crank's interview shows that he did try to do things for the betterment of the team. But seems like him trying to talk to Jessica and Boxer fell on deaf ears, even volunteered his time to drive players back and forth too.

I am really starting to feel that Jessica is mostly to blame for this catastrophe.
"Numbers speak about the past, not the present." -Thorzain
NinjaNitrate
Profile Joined June 2011
82 Posts
October 22 2012 21:35 GMT
#203
I can't believe people are actually surprised that Jessica was the reason BoxeR quit. Like, that's not the full truth obviously, there are a number of reasons why he quit and his personal health was probably a big one. But can you imagine dealing with Jessica day in day out when she is basically running the team you are playing for both from a game perspective and managing players that are having arguments with players. Since he cannot side with the players while Jessica is around the best option is to get out of the teamhouse.

Since BoxeR's aura is the thing that gives SlayerS players their strength, eventually all of them fell to their weakest point and the team fell apart with none of BoxeR's spirit to hold it together.
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Irrational_Animal
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1059 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 21:37:31
October 22 2012 21:35 GMT
#204
The only domain where foreigners still could claim their superiority in sc2 was in creating drama. Guess that`s a thing of the past now as the Slayers drama makes Destiny, Naniwa and friends look like bloody beginners.
If MMA said the truth, then Jessica is the Joko Ono of Starcraft.
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
October 22 2012 21:36 GMT
#205
And as more and more of the story comes out, it basically ends up being exactly what I thought from the beginning.

Jessica is an overbearing boss who lacked some of the necessary management skills to keep a business running...let alone a business in a young industry like SC2.

The players are still young, and fairly immature, and have somewhat overblown expectations about how professional the industry would be.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
October 22 2012 21:36 GMT
#206
i blame them all

most importantly cause boxer stopped playing and i could less bout the rest
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tronix
Profile Joined November 2010
United States95 Posts
October 22 2012 21:37 GMT
#207
when i read this article the only thing i thought of was an image of boxer slowly backing away, cracking open the door, and slowly leaving the room.

talk about being between a rock and hard place.

BRaegO
Profile Joined November 2010
United States243 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 21:40:35
October 22 2012 21:37 GMT
#208
On October 23 2012 06:35 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 06:32 BRaegO wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:28 BRaegO wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:26 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:24 namori wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:20 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:18 Denzil wrote:
hard to believe MMAs account when every paragraph is shitting on jessica

but its easy to believe jessica's account when its shitting on everyone else?

no, but I am seeing a lot of "Oh shit, MMA says different so Jessica is a bitch!" comments in here.


Because TL is full misogynist neckbeards who live on their parents basement

omg, look at the post right below you.

lol... I love it when people just prove me right.


*sigh* I love it when people like you categorize others for the words they use. Would you have preferred I said asshole? Or Jessica was a "bad girl". Grow up kid.

I didn't categorize you, I just thought it was hilarious that you did exactly what I said (someone like) you would do.

I didn't realize being grown up was calling someone you don't know a bitch for doing things that haven't been confirmed to have been done. guess I learn something new every day, right?


And "someone like you would do" isn't categorizing? Apparently you aren't one of the kids that are learning something new everyday.(psst categorizing... do you see it.. one of those kids)...

look:

I said that there were a lot of people saying: "MMA said different, so that proves Jessica is a bitch."

than you come out, right after, and say, basically: "MMA says different, so that proves Jessica is a manipulative bitch."

so I lol'd at the irony and pointed it out, and then you got mad. well, I'm gonna give you a reason to be really mad, because I'm about to really categorize you:

people like you, who jump to conclusions based on nothing, are the problem. not Jessica, not MMA. You and all your ilk. have a nice day.


haha I'm not mad at all. You don't think I read the quotes from you above that? I saw the "irony" you were referring too. I just disagreed with the categorizing part. :D

EDIT: I'm not jumping to conclusions. I did say there was wrong doings on both sides; how the situations were taken care of and the information from multiple sources on some of the things Jessica has done makes it very easy for me understand what is actually going on. Whether you want to see it or not is up to you. I will have a nice day, thanks for that! :D
_B L/IN K YOUREYES /1 FOR YES 2 F_OR NO
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 22 2012 21:38 GMT
#209
Not shocked at all. Regardless of how MMA was, if even 25% of that stuff it true about Jessica, the team was terriblely run. I know a lot of people want to blame the players, but the power structure on a group like that was soley of the team owners. Most of these kids are young, while Boxer and Jessica are super starts. I feel bad for them that the team disbanded, but they really have no one to blame by themselves, rather than a bunch of young kids or just barely adults.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
October 22 2012 21:38 GMT
#210
On October 23 2012 06:24 Dundron2000 wrote:
far too public. very poor professionalism by most involved parties but mostly jessica. i dont think its a coincidence that drama has been following her since she came onto the scene. i feel the worst for cella T_T


Bad for Cella and Eve (who never really saw any action besides female tournaments T_T) hope all the former slayers player can find a good team!
amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
October 22 2012 21:39 GMT
#211
Boxer should have clearly delineated Jessica's influence (or lack thereof) within the team when slayers was founded. When he gave her so much power in the team, he was inevitably asking for the types of situations where it was either siding with his players or siding with his fiance... either a lose-lose position for both his personal and professional relationships.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 22 2012 21:39 GMT
#212
I feel so sad for MMA just in general... why oh why stupid world
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
October 22 2012 21:39 GMT
#213
MMA had a good thing going until he made that statement about believing Jessica made Boxer lose his passion. If he didn't say that, he'd be much more believable lol.
When SC2 came for BW, I cried. Now LoL/Dota2 comes for SC2, and I laugh. \o/
TrickyGilligan
Profile Joined September 2010
United States641 Posts
October 22 2012 21:40 GMT
#214
On October 23 2012 06:35 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 06:32 BRaegO wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:28 BRaegO wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:26 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:24 namori wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:20 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:18 Denzil wrote:
hard to believe MMAs account when every paragraph is shitting on jessica

but its easy to believe jessica's account when its shitting on everyone else?

no, but I am seeing a lot of "Oh shit, MMA says different so Jessica is a bitch!" comments in here.


Because TL is full misogynist neckbeards who live on their parents basement

omg, look at the post right below you.

lol... I love it when people just prove me right.


*sigh* I love it when people like you categorize others for the words they use. Would you have preferred I said asshole? Or Jessica was a "bad girl". Grow up kid.

I didn't categorize you, I just thought it was hilarious that you did exactly what I said (someone like) you would do.

I didn't realize being grown up was calling someone you don't know a bitch for doing things that haven't been confirmed to have been done. guess I learn something new every day, right?


And "someone like you would do" isn't categorizing? Apparently you aren't one of the kids that are learning something new everyday.(psst categorizing... do you see it.. one of those kids)...

look:

I said that there were a lot of people saying: "MMA said different, so that proves Jessica is a bitch."

than you come out, right after, and say, basically: "MMA says different, so that proves Jessica is a manipulative bitch."

so I lol'd at the irony and pointed it out, and then you got mad. well, I'm gonna give you a reason to be really mad, because I'm about to really categorize you:

people like you, who jump to conclusions based on nothing, are the problem. not Jessica, not MMA. You and all your ilk. have a nice day.


There have been literally hundreds of pages of drama surrounding this. We're way past the point of "jumping to conclusions based on nothing."

This is TL though, so I guess we need 3 different peer-reviewed sources before we can make a decision about anything.
"I've had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn't it." -Groucho Marx
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
October 22 2012 21:40 GMT
#215
Such conflicted testimonies. I felt bad for SlayerS reading Jessica's post as nothing seemed her fault, and now it seems everything is her fault. I think I'll stop reading this drama until more factual info is out rather than interviews.
Try another route paperboy.
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
October 22 2012 21:41 GMT
#216
These ex slayerS players are just trying to defend themselves, they want to play on new teams that can trust their players. Their job is being a SC2 player.

I don't understand what Jessica is trying to do. Does she actually just want to ruin these players future opportunities that left SlayerS on a bad term?

She shouldn't have actively pursued this... all this is just bad publicity for the ex-SlayerS who she is condemning. Even if she is right, I think she can understand. If the players lose their jobs, they have no income. If Jessica disbands the team, she goes on being an actress. It's not like she isn't getting paid any time in near future.
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
BRaegO
Profile Joined November 2010
United States243 Posts
October 22 2012 21:41 GMT
#217
On October 23 2012 06:40 TrickyGilligan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 06:35 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:32 BRaegO wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:28 BRaegO wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:26 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:24 namori wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:20 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:18 Denzil wrote:
hard to believe MMAs account when every paragraph is shitting on jessica

but its easy to believe jessica's account when its shitting on everyone else?

no, but I am seeing a lot of "Oh shit, MMA says different so Jessica is a bitch!" comments in here.


Because TL is full misogynist neckbeards who live on their parents basement

omg, look at the post right below you.

lol... I love it when people just prove me right.


*sigh* I love it when people like you categorize others for the words they use. Would you have preferred I said asshole? Or Jessica was a "bad girl". Grow up kid.

I didn't categorize you, I just thought it was hilarious that you did exactly what I said (someone like) you would do.

I didn't realize being grown up was calling someone you don't know a bitch for doing things that haven't been confirmed to have been done. guess I learn something new every day, right?


And "someone like you would do" isn't categorizing? Apparently you aren't one of the kids that are learning something new everyday.(psst categorizing... do you see it.. one of those kids)...

look:

I said that there were a lot of people saying: "MMA said different, so that proves Jessica is a bitch."

than you come out, right after, and say, basically: "MMA says different, so that proves Jessica is a manipulative bitch."

so I lol'd at the irony and pointed it out, and then you got mad. well, I'm gonna give you a reason to be really mad, because I'm about to really categorize you:

people like you, who jump to conclusions based on nothing, are the problem. not Jessica, not MMA. You and all your ilk. have a nice day.


There have been literally hundreds of pages of drama surrounding this. We're way past the point of "jumping to conclusions based on nothing."

This is TL though, so I guess we need 3 different peer-reviewed sources before we can make a decision about anything.


ahahahahaha should I do it in APA format? Would that make it more official? haha nice one
_B L/IN K YOUREYES /1 FOR YES 2 F_OR NO
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
October 22 2012 21:41 GMT
#218
On October 23 2012 05:23 Fionn wrote:
What MMA said is probably true, but his image in Korea is about to get smashed. Boxer and Jessica might have screamed, fought, and had relationship problems, but who do you think Boxer is going to side with? He's obviously going to just call MMA a liar, cancer, etc. and side with his girlfriend/fiance/wife/whatever she is. Since Boxer is a God in Korea, everyone is going to side with him and shun MMA.


BoxeR will obviously side with his baby - SK Telecom T1. Oh wait - he already did!
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
October 22 2012 21:41 GMT
#219
This community is incredibly biased against Jessica. It's kinda sad, honestly. I've no doubt that that she was to blame in some capacity for the Slayers drama, but to characterize her as malicious or evil or the sole problem is presumptive at best and dishonest otherwise. We don't have access to the truth here. It's in the best interests of the players to come up with a story that will allow them to continue to play Sc2 competitively. I don't mean to say that they're lying, but it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they'd omitted details or put a positive spin on events in which they were more complicit than they'd care to admit.

Jessica may be overbearing, but it's clear that she really does care about her players in a sort of motherly fashion. While that may have been her downfall, her statement doesn't suddenly fly out the window because MMA released a different version. The intelligent thing to do would be to try and find out which of the statements is actually accurate, not presume the one from everyone's favourite Terran is correct just because he made a controversial comment about Boxer.

(On a side note, I'm amazed that all these people who have never been to Korea are suddenly talking as if MMA's accusation about Boxer quitting because of Jessica is some sort of infallible comment simply because of how important it is).
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
October 22 2012 21:41 GMT
#220
On October 23 2012 06:35 yoshi245 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 06:32 Fungal Growth wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:28 NightOfTheDead wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:26 Fungal Growth wrote:
Out of curiosity have Dragon or Cella made comments on the team situation?


I hope they wont. Because there is nothing more to be said. This whole thing went too far public. I hope they get their shit together, and be silent until end of times. There is nothing one can say to make things better.
I disagree. Often times it is best to be open and honest about conflicts else you just brood and you have poisonous situations like what we had with Slayer's. Sounds like if their had been more openess and more communication earlier, many of these issues would have been avoided.


Well it's not for the lack of trying. Crank's interview shows that he did try to do things for the betterment of the team. But seems like him trying to talk to Jessica and Boxer fell on deaf ears, even volunteered his time to drive players back and forth too.

I am really starting to feel that Jessica is mostly to blame for this catastrophe.


At least until Jessica releases her next statement, then MMA is the worst thing that happened to esports. At least until MMA releases another statement.
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