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Crank and MMA's accounts regarding SlayerS - Page 9

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magicmUnky
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia280 Posts
October 22 2012 21:22 GMT
#161
Evidently the problem with Korean gaming houses...

Got a problem? Don't talk about it... Brood on it for weeks until it becomes insurmountable! : D

It is so disappointing that the childish actions of these players (and managers) has ruined a great gaming house
Razorspine
Profile Joined September 2012
New Zealand29 Posts
October 22 2012 21:23 GMT
#162
The real truth will most likely be some orgy of what people are saying
In this world we are all alone, only through the ultimate belief of friendship and trust can we even for a moment create the illusion that we are not alone.
Dundron2000
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1140 Posts
October 22 2012 21:24 GMT
#163
far too public. very poor professionalism by most involved parties but mostly jessica. i dont think its a coincidence that drama has been following her since she came onto the scene. i feel the worst for cella T_T
n.Die_Jaedong
namori
Profile Joined October 2012
Japan26 Posts
October 22 2012 21:24 GMT
#164
On October 23 2012 06:20 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 06:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:18 Denzil wrote:
hard to believe MMAs account when every paragraph is shitting on jessica

but its easy to believe jessica's account when its shitting on everyone else?

no, but I am seeing a lot of "Oh shit, MMA says different so Jessica is a bitch!" comments in here.


Because TL is full misogynist neckbeards who live on their parents basement

User was banned for this post.
ロボット妹
BRaegO
Profile Joined November 2010
United States243 Posts
October 22 2012 21:25 GMT
#165
Soooo Crank looks like a bad guy for sticking up for MMA and disliking the conditions they were in. MMA is fed up with the betrayals from Boxer and Jessica. Jessica blames the players for everything.

All the backlash and horrible situations that did occur from the players was an effect of what Jessica was doing. This shouldn't be to hard to understand. I'm not saying what they did was right/wrong(who hasn't gotten pissed off and said things when something upsets you that much); I'm just saying as someone who they are supposed to trust with their CAREERS does all this manipulating and backstabbing... I can't blame them for lashing out.

Simply put, Jessica is a manipulative bitch. The people that are defending her need to ask themselves, with everything everyone is saying about Jessica, is it possible they could be right? Do you honestly believe she did not do some of the things these players have said?
_B L/IN K YOUREYES /1 FOR YES 2 F_OR NO
Apollo_Shards
Profile Joined February 2011
1210 Posts
October 22 2012 21:25 GMT
#166
On October 23 2012 05:24 rrwrwx wrote:
Show nested quote +
I think the main reason for boxer’s quitting as a player is because of Jessica.

Whoa.


I feel empty.
Jaedong, sOs, avilo, MaSa, Oprah
Hds
Profile Joined July 2011
France200 Posts
October 22 2012 21:25 GMT
#167
My fucking godness, I want BoxeR to play so bad, and I want MMA to keep his will to play, both of them made me litterally fall in love with Sc2. Stop with dramas, I just want to see good games from them.
Watily! ♥
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 21:26:35
October 22 2012 21:25 GMT
#168
Having a recorded phone call makes me really think ill of Jessica.

On October 23 2012 06:23 Razorspine wrote:
The real truth will most likely be some orgy of what people are saying

I agree completely.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
October 22 2012 21:25 GMT
#169
On October 23 2012 06:24 namori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 06:20 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:18 Denzil wrote:
hard to believe MMAs account when every paragraph is shitting on jessica

but its easy to believe jessica's account when its shitting on everyone else?

no, but I am seeing a lot of "Oh shit, MMA says different so Jessica is a bitch!" comments in here.


Because TL is full misogynist neckbeards who live on their parents basement


I wouldn't say that, calling a woman a bitch is roughly equivalent of calling a man a douchebag.
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 21:27:28
October 22 2012 21:26 GMT
#170
On October 23 2012 06:24 namori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 06:20 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:18 Denzil wrote:
hard to believe MMAs account when every paragraph is shitting on jessica

but its easy to believe jessica's account when its shitting on everyone else?

no, but I am seeing a lot of "Oh shit, MMA says different so Jessica is a bitch!" comments in here.


Because TL is full misogynist neckbeards who live on their parents basement

omg, look at the post right below you.

lol... I love it when people just prove me right.


On October 23 2012 06:25 BRaegO wrote:
Simply put, Jessica is a manipulative bitch.

*facepalm
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Quesadilla
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1814 Posts
October 22 2012 21:26 GMT
#171
On October 23 2012 06:25 Apollo_Shards wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 05:24 rrwrwx wrote:
I think the main reason for boxer’s quitting as a player is because of Jessica.

Whoa.


I feel empty.


Been saying that would be a reason for months.
Make a lot of friends. Wear good clothes. Drink good beer. Love a nice girl.
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
October 22 2012 21:26 GMT
#172
On October 23 2012 06:24 namori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 06:20 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:18 Denzil wrote:
hard to believe MMAs account when every paragraph is shitting on jessica

but its easy to believe jessica's account when its shitting on everyone else?

no, but I am seeing a lot of "Oh shit, MMA says different so Jessica is a bitch!" comments in here.


Because TL is full misogynist neckbeards who live on their parents basement


As opposed to the white knights and internet lawyers who are all rich, successful and most definitely not also living in their parents' basements!
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
Fungal Growth
Profile Joined November 2010
United States434 Posts
October 22 2012 21:26 GMT
#173
Out of curiosity have Dragon or Cella made comments on the team situation?
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
October 22 2012 21:27 GMT
#174
On October 23 2012 06:24 namori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 06:20 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:18 Denzil wrote:
hard to believe MMAs account when every paragraph is shitting on jessica

but its easy to believe jessica's account when its shitting on everyone else?

no, but I am seeing a lot of "Oh shit, MMA says different so Jessica is a bitch!" comments in here.


Because TL is full misogynist neckbeards who live on their parents basement

Really? the level of stupidity and bullshit generalization you just managed to squeeze into one sentence has to be some kind of record... -.-
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
GulpyBlinkeyes
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1449 Posts
October 22 2012 21:27 GMT
#175
On October 23 2012 06:05 Shiori wrote:
So basically, like most things, everyone was to blame.


Exactly my thoughts.

The only reasonable conclusion I can draw from something this convoluted is that there was a lot of miscommunication and everyone involved made some mistakes. Same as most problems in life.

Glad all sides are getting to present their story for their own peace of mind, but beyond that it doesn't seem like there's much value in trying to dissect all the information.
BRaegO
Profile Joined November 2010
United States243 Posts
October 22 2012 21:28 GMT
#176
On October 23 2012 06:26 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 06:24 namori wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:20 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:18 Denzil wrote:
hard to believe MMAs account when every paragraph is shitting on jessica

but its easy to believe jessica's account when its shitting on everyone else?

no, but I am seeing a lot of "Oh shit, MMA says different so Jessica is a bitch!" comments in here.


Because TL is full misogynist neckbeards who live on their parents basement

omg, look at the post right below you.

lol... I love it when people just prove me right.


*sigh* I love it when people like you categorize others for the words they use. Would you have preferred I said asshole? Or Jessica was a "bad girl". Grow up kid.
_B L/IN K YOUREYES /1 FOR YES 2 F_OR NO
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 21:31:27
October 22 2012 21:28 GMT
#177
I'm trying to reconcile this:

After, my performance fell and I just focused on the game more since there was nothing I could do about it. Crank suggested that I go talk to boxer as he would know more from a player’s viewpoint. So I talked to boxer. Boxer knew this was dangerous waters so he checked around for a few days and told me that there was nothing of that nature (potential personal sponsor) going on.

Jessica did not release any details about our sponsors so I had no choice but to trust manager J regarding this matter because he was a former employee of corporation R. at the same time, I lost faith in Jessica because of how she treated the players and the arguments she picked with other players (on other teams).


I don't know if that means MMA kept believing J after talking to Boxer. The second paragraph could just be putting J into perspective after the fact. In any case, it's quite likely they were offended MMA didn't go straight to them and instead let it fester for weeks, only telling Crank.

Regardless, J didn't just fool MMA, he fooled the SlayerS management too. MMA being labeled gullible is kind of silly. J would be a lot less convincing without Jessica's own erratic behavior.

They basically scapegoated MMA after the J incident, but were unwilling to admit the real reason players began to distrust Jessica was because of her behavior, and then the contract annulment thing.

I don't know if Jessica is specifically like the following, but some managers, including my current one, have a tendency to make up rules on the spot, based very much on their own point of view, and thrusting blame on others comes very easily. It's always, "<so and so> should have done <this>," because some work was not done or done wrong. Similarly, I could see how Jessica's offer of the contract annulment could be a different story days later. I can imagine deciding I wanted out of a contract, and then I'm told, "that was limited time offer! one day only" seriously, wtf? I could also see how Jessica could see their silence on that day as acceptance, but she still essentially went back on her word, even if she didn't realize it at the time.
namori
Profile Joined October 2012
Japan26 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 21:28:31
October 22 2012 21:28 GMT
#178
On October 23 2012 06:26 Cyrak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 06:24 namori wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:20 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 23 2012 06:18 Denzil wrote:
hard to believe MMAs account when every paragraph is shitting on jessica

but its easy to believe jessica's account when its shitting on everyone else?

no, but I am seeing a lot of "Oh shit, MMA says different so Jessica is a bitch!" comments in here.


Because TL is full misogynist neckbeards who live on their parents basement


As opposed to the white knights and internet lawyers who are all rich, successful and most definitely not also living in their parents' basements!


Or maybe because they don't have time to whine about women on the internet.
ロボット妹
GeorgiusRex
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada16 Posts
October 22 2012 21:28 GMT
#179
MMA: …But this does not mean that the players are right and Jessica is wrong. I just wish that people would look at this objectively and not just from one point of view.


People in one thread blame MMA; people in another thread blame Jessica. In reality, unless we were there at the time, we can't know the whole truth about the issues in the team house, nor whom to blame.
Nisi Ego Quis (RF)
NightOfTheDead
Profile Joined August 2009
Lithuania1711 Posts
October 22 2012 21:28 GMT
#180
On October 23 2012 06:26 Fungal Growth wrote:
Out of curiosity have Dragon or Cella made comments on the team situation?


I hope they wont. Because there is nothing more to be said. This whole thing went too far public. I hope they get their shit together, and be silent until end of times. There is nothing one can say to make things better.
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