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sabas123
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands3122 Posts
October 22 2012 19:34 GMT
#421
On October 23 2012 03:29 Kresh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 03:06 muzzy wrote:
On October 23 2012 02:48 Kresh wrote:
I would be surprised if you could name any highly-watched sport that isn't played by its audience.

What?

I think most sports are watched by a majority of "non-players".
You really think most people out there drive Formula 1 race cars? You think most people have played Tennis? Nope.
And even those that have played, it's usually a thing in their past that they maybe did in their childhood or highschool years casually.

Very few people are actually athletes and understand a game from the players perspective.

A *lot* of people watch SC2 that have never played or only played very casually.

To me, SC2 is a much more approachable game from a spectators point of view than LoL or DOTA. It's two armies trying to beat eachother... you don't have to notice all the cute micro and techniques to understand it ( though, that makes it better).
The same thing that makes LoL so appealing to casuals, the tons of items and heroes to play with, makes it a nightmare to watch. I understand MOBA (and play DOTA quite a bit), but I still have a very hard time understanding LoL at all when I attempt to watch.


Well, I guess I didn't make my point clear:

If you play something, you appreciate and understand it, and it's a natural step to look to see how people who are really good at it perform.

It's not whether you are a player "right now" or even a top performer. Everyone was an athlete at school, most people drive a car or at least understand how cars work. Most people have played a game where they hit a ball with a stick of some kind.

My point is that if you are not exposed to the sport as part of your life (play it; do the same actions yourself etc) then WHY would you go looking for it? WHY would you take all that time to learn the complexities? This isn't "that car is faster than this one", or "that guy ran faster than this guy".

MOST people won't, and the viewer numbers bear that out. Otherwise how do you explain that SC2 doesn't get the same viewers as LoL or Dota2?

its cool that you try BUT there are some REAL problems with the GAME that we told them since sc2 came out and they STIL didn't listen

and i think destiny said it brillant about how we ARE depended on the casual scene. and there is not a clear seperation in the game itself for casual and competitve gamers

the game thourgh the ladder system and ui WANTS you to be competitive and stuff. but it ain't working.
The harder it becomes, the more you should focus on the basics.
TheDraken
Profile Joined July 2011
United States640 Posts
October 22 2012 19:55 GMT
#422
On October 22 2012 18:50 WniO wrote:
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dat body.
fast food. y u no make me fast? <( ಠ益ಠ <)
mahO
Profile Joined April 2011
France274 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 17:04:58
December 24 2012 17:04 GMT
#423
On October 20 2012 04:26 Schnullerbacke13 wrote:
Way better on point than his recent post. He is 100% right. However I'd like to note that the average age of LOL players is probably a lot younger than SC2. So SC2 people probably have more buying power. Anyway this does not make up for the huge difference in viewer base.



I think you're wrong, actually SC2 players if they want to commit need a lot of free time, even to watch SC2, I've seen it on some of my friends who loved SC2, but just gave up and went to LoL because it's more casual, requires less practice if you want to "feel good about your level of play" and way easier to access + it's a team game obviously and after work it's more chill than grinding 8 games on SC2 ladder. I'd be interested in seing some data on this but I dont think that the LoL players average age is that low, lots of casual gamers are in their late 20s or early 30s and are attracted to that kind of game.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
December 24 2012 17:22 GMT
#424
Pretty sure destiny is no longer relevant
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
December 24 2012 17:25 GMT
#425
On October 20 2012 04:23 zazen42 wrote:
People will continue playing Starcraft 2 no matter what the prize money for tournaments or the number of viewers is compared to League of Legends, because the two are completely different games. Hell, even if there were no streams/tournaments/people playing SC2 anymore I still wouldn't switch to LoL because I enjoy games with more strategic depth. If SC2 died I would switch back to Broodwar or just playing chess full time.

Also, I think that HotS will appeal more to casual players with the inclusion of unranked 1v1 quick-match.


Maybe not, I like starcraft more, but I'm basically switching to League because my friends play it, and the pro scene is imo better. Team format is sick, blizzard doesn't promotes, and they suck at balance.
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SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
December 24 2012 17:27 GMT
#426
Dead things should be left dead. In this case Destiny's opinions.
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
Ichabod
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1659 Posts
December 24 2012 17:28 GMT
#427
...You probably won't get a response when quoting 2-month old posts. This discussion has run its course imo.
Makelius
Profile Joined June 2011
76 Posts
December 24 2012 17:34 GMT
#428
Nothing to see here move along people.
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