EPTThe head of ESF steps down from his position - Page 2
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ArmyOfPlatypi
United States188 Posts
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lisward
Singapore959 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
All hail the Emperor and his queen! | ||
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Martijn
Netherlands1219 Posts
On October 19 2012 18:28 nkr wrote: this is the part when savior takes off his jessica mask, right? Fucking spoiler tag that shit jackass, you just ruined the next 5 episodes ;/ Though the tendency to "take responsibility" even if you didn't do anything surely exists in Asian culture (and no, I definitely don't pretend to be an expert here) it certainly sounds like they're confirming Jessica's story which I honestly didn't take as very credible when I first read it.. Purely the timing and the way it was put out there made it seem like an excuse and an attempt to dodge responsibility for SlayerS shutting down, not a legitimate case. | ||
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HonorZ
France858 Posts
On October 19 2012 18:15 TechNoTrance wrote: Seems like something that could have been addressed before Slayers was destroyed completely :/ I agree ten times with this. It's sucks that it's always after the problems blows out of proportion that they are solved. | ||
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openbox1
1393 Posts
He just didn't think he'll be caught out with email proofs. While the foreign community hates on Jessica, in Korea, the public reaction was incredibly anti Coach Won and anti-ESF. | ||
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
What needs to be made clear is that the ESF made some very unethical decisions that caused great harm to the sc2 scene. Slayers is not the only casualty, their credibility and the credibility of sc2 in Korea has also taken a nosedive. No association should ever stoop so low to do what they did. | ||
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Zerofinal
Thailand136 Posts
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HolydaKing
21253 Posts
On October 19 2012 18:27 TeeTS wrote: haha you don't know how this world works, do you? He stepped down, because of the pressure that ignorant fans put on him, believing everything they are said first without thinking "what?" and "why?". He is a scapegoat to calm down the athmosphere, nothing more nothing less. This proves nothing, especially not justice. But yeah, live on in your shiny world of good and bad! Yes, fully agreed with you. | ||
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Martijn
Netherlands1219 Posts
On October 19 2012 18:31 shadymmj wrote: I wish it will stop devolving into Jessica right vs Jessica wrong I understand what you're saying, but I and I'm sure some others too were thoroughly caught with our pants down when this turned out to be credible. Let the shock wear off haha. | ||
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CodeskyE
United States777 Posts
Jessica has warned Coach Won about her having evidences, and with Coach Won stepping down, it's pretty sure that Jessica's evidences are pretty spot on. It's sad that SlayerS are no more, this could've been avoided. | ||
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
So much little petty drama shit like Coach lee and players getting "poached." Now all the silly stuff about telling teams not to practice with slayers.. It's elementary school shit. | ||
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Shai
Canada806 Posts
On October 19 2012 18:28 nkr wrote: this is the part when savior takes off his jessica mask, right? That's probably the funniest thing I've read in weeks! Unfortunately SlayerS clan is already dead. As soon as Boxer accepted his SKT1 job it hasn't really been SlayerS in my mind. | ||
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soullogik
United States1171 Posts
it seemed he had no choice as everyone wanted this just to start the process of fixing things have to wait for more people to step up | ||
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Weirdkid
Singapore2431 Posts
Indeed. A step down and a vague apology without any details doesn't really tell us much. If I wanted to paint it in a good light for Coach Won and ESF, I could say that he's "sacrificing himself" for the greater good of eSports or something. Afterall, what seems like a peaceful resolution looks nicer than continued fighting for who knows how long. Neutral viewpoint by the way  | ||
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anrimayu
United States875 Posts
On October 19 2012 18:31 HonorZ wrote: I agree ten times with this. It's sucks that it's always after the problems blows out of proportion that they are solved. Won from Startale lied about it multiple times, that he's the victim. IM, MVP, Prime, FXO, and ST were all in it together. It's just too bad that the apology had to be forced out of them so painfully, after Jessica fought for it with tooth and nail. Just in case people don't remember, Won was responsible for falsely accusing TSL coach Lee for swindling team's sponsor money and Fruitdealer/Tricksters salaries. He stepped down from his position as the head of federation of that time to take responsibility, just like what he's doing now. Same shit, different organizations. This is not over yet. | ||
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Serpico
4285 Posts
On October 19 2012 18:36 Glurkenspurk wrote: Is it just me or does it seem like the business of sc2 esports in korea is just a bunch of immature shit flinging? So much little petty drama shit like Coach lee and players getting "poached." Now all the silly stuff about telling teams not to practice with slayers.. It's elementary school shit. Almost like they have no business sense or understanding of how to handle things in house without causing a shit storm? | ||
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Deleuze
United Kingdom2102 Posts
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Kiyo.
United States2284 Posts
On October 19 2012 18:38 anrimayu wrote: Won from Startale lied about it multiple times, that he's the victim. IM, MVP, Prime, FXO, and ST were all in it together. It's just too bad that the apology had to be forced out of them so painfully, after Jessica fought for it with tooth and nail. Just in case people don't remember, Won was responsible for falsely accusing TSL coach Lee for swindling team's sponsor money and Fruitdealer/Tricksters salaries. He stepped down from his position as the head of federation of that time to take responsibility, just like what he's doing now. Same shit, different organizations. This is not over yet. No. You're thinking of the TSL coach. | ||
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kanchome
44 Posts
뭐여. 지들이 무슨 동호회같은 집단인 연맹 만들어놓고 연맹회장놀이하더니 거기에서 내려오면 그만이야?? 왕따시킨집단이 계속 e스포츠판 안에있다는거 자체가 짜증나는데 ? 그리고 지금 원종욱만 징계받는분위기인데 동참한 감독 , 선수들도 마찬가지아니여? 모두 징계받아. 언제 또 터트릴지모르는 집단들이자나 안그래? What the hell? After forming a hobby group and pretending to be some e-sports federation leader do you think it's the end of the problem because you resigned? I'm pretty angry at the fact that the leader of the bullies is still working in E-sports? Why is only the chairman getting disciplined when everyone involved including the managers and players are equally responsible for the bullying? Everyone involved should be disciplined because isn't the systematic bullying likely to occur again? 임요환과 그가 만든 팀을 상대로 왕따놀이를 하는 분들이 무슨 이스포츠 미래를 위해 일하겠습니까. 더구나 더욱 힘없는 팀이나 개인을 상대로 무슨 짓을 못하겠습니까. 저런 사람들은 이 판에 있을 자격이 없다고 봐요 Everyone who bullied the team Boxer built are not the type of people who can ever work for the good of Esports. Furthermore how would they act towards much weaker teams when they were so merciless towards Boxers team. Those bullies have no right to be where they are now (ESF). 연맹 이 쓰렉 놈들 하는짓이 개스파 보다 더하네 한수 배워야 할 정도 ㅋㅋㅋ These trash of humanity(ESF) could teach Kespa how to be bigger trash. ---- ESF has lost too much creditability already that damage control is already past the point of zone where things can be salvaged. As things are headed people are more likely to embrace Kespa taking control of the scene. Everyone who ruined Boxer's team is done for, including certain members of his team. No on in korea is going to forgive those who have already been named as part of the problem of why Slayers team imploded. | ||
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