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Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 14:35:23
October 22 2012 14:34 GMT
#3881
On October 22 2012 23:22 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 23:20 Zocat wrote:
Good interview shows a lot of things in a different light.

Only thing I'm sad about is that he doesnt seem to realize that saying "I dont want to leave for (foreign) money" and then looking for sponsors & streaming within a short period, makes him look bad. Even if it wasnt intentional I think it's fairly easy to see that some people interpret his actions like that.
Also a bit too much whining in some of his statements for my taste (but hey others might like that).

It doesn't feel like whining. felt more like "how can they say that about me?" Dude seems to respect and love Boxer a lot, seems he just let his emotions of Jessica over ride his feelings for Boxer in that phone call.


I meant the medical stuff. (and yes I know the interviewer asked those questions)
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-22 14:35:16
October 22 2012 14:35 GMT
#3882
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NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 22 2012 14:35 GMT
#3883
I skimmed through the interview but it does say quite a bit of what happened. Translation isn't the greatest but still insightful to the situation.
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ImNightmare
Profile Joined May 2012
1575 Posts
October 22 2012 14:41 GMT
#3884
On October 22 2012 23:34 Zocat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 23:22 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 22 2012 23:20 Zocat wrote:
Good interview shows a lot of things in a different light.

Only thing I'm sad about is that he doesnt seem to realize that saying "I dont want to leave for (foreign) money" and then looking for sponsors & streaming within a short period, makes him look bad. Even if it wasnt intentional I think it's fairly easy to see that some people interpret his actions like that.
Also a bit too much whining in some of his statements for my taste (but hey others might like that).

It doesn't feel like whining. felt more like "how can they say that about me?" Dude seems to respect and love Boxer a lot, seems he just let his emotions of Jessica over ride his feelings for Boxer in that phone call.


I meant the medical stuff. (and yes I know the interviewer asked those questions)

Hahaa, I see.. But people are doubting his medical situation, even TB had to personally speak out for him on that. So I guess, he is just frustrated people would think he is faking about his medical situation to leave the team
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
October 22 2012 15:02 GMT
#3885
Sounds like a misunderstanding between Crank and Jessica since MMA Ryung and Alicia were being divas and Crank's reassurance that he wasnt leaving for the money. If only he clarified with Jessica before advertising for a team a big chunk of this drama could've been avoided.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
October 22 2012 15:20 GMT
#3886
Seems like a misunderstanding, and they definitely should have talked to eachother and tried to sort it out before turning it into this hot drama mess. Jessica was in the right IMO to expose the training embargo and bullying but the in-house turmoil seems like a lack of communication.
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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
October 22 2012 15:21 GMT
#3887
On October 22 2012 11:26 sekritzzz wrote:
How can the training/enviroment be that bad when Slayers is literally spitting out zero to hero players. Again, who was MMA, Ryung, Alicia, coca, crank, etc before slayers? Boxer picked up korean ladder players and won the first GSTL against all odds.

Small correction: Coca was on Zennex before, and was rising when he switched to the more wealthy Slayers. The rest rose on Slayers though, you're correct - Boxer has a great appeal to rising talent
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 22 2012 15:22 GMT
#3888
Crank's story makes way more sense than Jessica's endless dramapuke. If there's no proper management and the team founders aren't doing their jobs, the players will start to act out. It's their livelihood on the line, after all. The founders have already had success, if their team fails they still have the reputation and finances to go onto something else. The players have nothing.

In my opinion, Boxer leaving his team before it dissolved was inexcusable and unprofessional, no matter how badly things were going there. Leaving it to the publicity-Baneling that is Jessica is even worse. Captain doesn't need to go down with the ship, but he should at least make sure everyone is off before jumping into the liferaft.

From everything we're hearing, Slayers failed because it wasn't run properly. The practice ban was something that could have been handled professionally, the player complaints also, and they simply weren't. If Boxer had been focusing on running a team instead of trying to play better, I think things would have gone much better than having Jessica run it, simply because he knows the industry and he's done it before.

LE SIGH lol
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Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
October 22 2012 15:22 GMT
#3889
On October 23 2012 00:02 S_SienZ wrote:
Sounds like a misunderstanding between Crank and Jessica since MMA Ryung and Alicia were being divas and Crank's reassurance that he wasnt leaving for the money. If only he clarified with Jessica before advertising for a team a big chunk of this drama could've been avoided.


I don't get how people are still holding onto this "diva" business after Crank's statement, at least with regards to MMA, and I have no idea how it even began @ Ryung.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
October 22 2012 15:39 GMT
#3890
On October 23 2012 00:22 Ansinjunger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2012 00:02 S_SienZ wrote:
Sounds like a misunderstanding between Crank and Jessica since MMA Ryung and Alicia were being divas and Crank's reassurance that he wasnt leaving for the money. If only he clarified with Jessica before advertising for a team a big chunk of this drama could've been avoided.


I don't get how people are still holding onto this "diva" business after Crank's statement, at least with regards to MMA, and I have no idea how it even began @ Ryung.


You mean Crank's statement where he said the top players slacked and didnt gave a shit?
Blackrobe
Profile Joined August 2010
United States806 Posts
October 22 2012 15:42 GMT
#3891
MMA's interview:

http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?category=13439&id=1319677
"To make no mistakes is not in the power of man; but from their errors and mistakes the wise and good learn wisdom for the future."
CygnusAres
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore893 Posts
October 22 2012 15:46 GMT
#3892
On October 23 2012 00:42 Blackrobe wrote:
MMA's interview:

http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?category=13439&id=1319677


Someone please help to translate. A little act of kindness goes a long way!
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mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 22 2012 15:48 GMT
#3893
ROFL in the google translate of the MMA interview the first thing I see is Jessica's description translating to "combustible sister" :D
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
October 22 2012 15:49 GMT
#3894
MMA's interview seems long, I wonder what he has to say :O
Moderatorlickypiddy
trwkling
Profile Joined September 2011
658 Posts
October 22 2012 15:55 GMT
#3895
On October 23 2012 00:49 NovemberstOrm wrote:
MMA's interview seems long, I wonder what he has to say :O


Suddenly I sort of wish I knew Korean
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
October 22 2012 15:56 GMT
#3896
pls someone translate MMA's interview. finally we hear from him
quannguyen
Profile Joined January 2012
Vietnam1390 Posts
October 22 2012 15:56 GMT
#3897
So MMA does release his statement on Monday just like susie said. Nice. Now if somebody would kindly translate it, that would be much appreciated
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Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
October 22 2012 16:03 GMT
#3898
On October 22 2012 22:54 Shival wrote:
Crank interview translation:

http://esfiworld.com/news/thisisgame-interview-axcrank-translation



TIG> Did you request it once? Many times?
Crank: I requested a lot. After MMA started having problems with the team I was listening to both sides. In my opinion I couldn't understand why I was told to blame team problems to the players. I kept asking to change the way the team was run and I was told that they will change. The things I have requested to change was player's mind set, their bad practice atmosphere, and weak team work. I asked Boxer himself to front this change. I had never asked to make a better team.


Did something get lost in translation here? This doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Crank asked management to change player's... mindset? Is there a korean speaker that can explain this part for me from the korean article please?
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Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
October 22 2012 16:05 GMT
#3899
Korean dramas always deliver haha
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
October 22 2012 16:16 GMT
#3900
On October 23 2012 01:03 Fyrewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2012 22:54 Shival wrote:
Crank interview translation:

http://esfiworld.com/news/thisisgame-interview-axcrank-translation


Show nested quote +

TIG> Did you request it once? Many times?
Crank: I requested a lot. After MMA started having problems with the team I was listening to both sides. In my opinion I couldn't understand why I was told to blame team problems to the players. I kept asking to change the way the team was run and I was told that they will change. The things I have requested to change was player's mind set, their bad practice atmosphere, and weak team work. I asked Boxer himself to front this change. I had never asked to make a better team.


Did something get lost in translation here? This doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Crank asked management to change player's... mindset? Is there a korean speaker that can explain this part for me from the korean article please?


The gist I got from the interview was that the team had little guidance and leadership, so players were left completely to themselves for development. i.e. their coaches weren't coming up with ways for them to improve or drills to work on, they were just pressuring them for results.

This could just be my own bias speaking, so hopefully a korean-speaker can clarify.
I NEED A PHOTOSYNTHESIS! ||| 'airtoss' is an anagram of 'artosis' ||| SANGHOOOOOO ||| "No Korea? No problem. I have internet." -- Stardust
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