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Jimz1469
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
On October 22 2012 09:49 babylon wrote: I don't know about you, but the part I quoted very clearly says that Boxer "explained that, according to him, from the perspective of the team and himself, [Crank] was the cause of all the internal issues, including the MMA, Ryung and Alicia ones." This was in Crank's statement. Go reread it, Jesus Christ. Therefore, according to Crank, Boxer said it, so it can hardly be said that "none are saying that" (your own words). Jessica did not refute this in her statement. Either she overlooked it (and it's true/false) or she didn't (and it's true). Given her propensity to pounce on people for their words (see: the entire MC situation), I am surprised she did not comment on this. Ive read the entire statement from Jessica, but theres nothing about blaming everything on Crank. where did you see it??? | ||
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Xiphos
Canada7507 Posts
On October 22 2012 10:49 Jimz1469 wrote: All of you demanding evidence from the PLAYERS, come on, they're players. They're not a business, they focused on the game, and are mostly kids, cut them some slack. Do you really expect them to record every conversation or keep a list of evidence in-case something goes bad like this? They just want to play Starcraft 2 in the right environment. BoxeR, YellOw, XellOS and many many other players back in the days of StarCraft:BW were kids too no body cut them any slack at the dawn of progaming. They have to live in a very tight-knit apartment while living off instant noodles. I'm sure that they just want to play their game too. | ||
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sekritzzz
1515 Posts
On October 22 2012 08:51 NovemberstOrm wrote: How so if what he said was the truth about slayers having a crappy training environment/boxer gave 0 fucks about it? I mean at the very least 3 players thought it went bad. Crank didn't do anything childish it was just un-professional the way he handled leaving the team.. @Zoact How exactly would he prove Boxer did nothing? How can the training/enviroment be that bad when Slayers is literally spitting out zero to hero players. Again, who was MMA, Ryung, Alicia, coca, crank, etc before slayers? Boxer picked up korean ladder players and won the first GSTL against all odds. I think the biggest problems with the Slayers team was different expectations from different parties. Alicia's issue, Crank's issue both revolve around some type of complex where they expected to be treated like kings. A lot of that might have to do with the fact that they were probably deluded by how much money koreans going to foreign teams were getting. The Korean scene is barely surviving and slayers was one of the most funded teams. Crank and Alicia whining about the bad treatment seriously have no grounds especially when I know for a fact teams like NSHS and TSL are miles behind due to shortage of funding. Just look at Alicia's whines towards the bad treatment, a pro-gamer not being picked up by Jessica after a flight? Give me a break Paris "Alicia" Hilton. | ||
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TeslasPigeon
464 Posts
On October 22 2012 10:15 SilSol wrote: Wow i just heard that TotalBiscuit sound file  I don't know what to think now.I can't find this sound file, it's not in OP's post. Link? | ||
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geokilla
Canada8245 Posts
On October 22 2012 11:33 TeslasPigeon wrote: I can't find this sound file, it's not in OP's post. Link? Nope... That's why I got no clue what's going on anymore. Everything is posted within these 200 pages, which I will not go throug... | ||
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Chylith
Canada167 Posts
Perhaps it could be added to the OP to save people some confusion? | ||
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Zalfor
United States1035 Posts
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geokilla
Canada8245 Posts
On October 22 2012 11:56 Chylith wrote: Axiom and Crank statement is located here: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=376999 Perhaps it could be added to the OP to save people some confusion? Thanks. Just finished reading it. I'm going to continue to side with the SlayerS player like I did from day 1. Too lazy to repeat previous posts and summarize my opinions. | ||
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TimeFlighT
Australia257 Posts
Anyway, I'm still sad that SlayerS is no more. Although I hope that BoxeR comes back to play HotS at some point. | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On October 22 2012 12:24 TimeFlighT wrote: I think that the OP needs to be updated to make it easier for posters to read the latest update. Anyway, I'm still sad that SlayerS is no more. Although I hope that BoxeR comes back to play HotS at some point. There has been a huge amount of updates that aren't in the OP. Basically if you hadn't followed the 3-5 threads you don't know half the story. So it would be nice to see it updated for sure. And yeah, would love to see more of Boxer playing. Even as a non-BW fan I understood the flair in his play. I don't think he will be though outside maybe a showmatch. Hopefully he's enjoying his coach-dom. | ||
StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?category=13439&id=1319143 | ||
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ANGELIAS1234
United States46 Posts
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di4m0nd
United States297 Posts
also know about MC incident.. | ||
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TimeFlighT
Australia257 Posts
On October 22 2012 22:31 di4m0nd wrote: if its not to much to ask can someone update me on the situation i been gone since Friday so all i know is whats in OPs post and that the Head of ESF stepped down is there anything self.. also know about MC incident.. Same here. I have not read the last 50 pages or so. OP, if you're not busy, could you please update? Thank you. | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On October 22 2012 08:51 NovemberstOrm wrote: + Show Spoiler + How so if what he said was the truth about slayers having a crappy training environment/boxer gave 0 fucks about it? I mean at the very least 3 players thought it went bad. Crank didn't do anything childish it was just un-professional the way he handled leaving the team.. @Zocat How exactly would he prove Boxer did nothing? That's the point. You dont see anything wrong with someone saying "The accuser has to show evidence" and in his own statement accusing people of something without evidence? I can understand if someone says "You should show evidence" and I understand that someone doesnt have evidence for everything (especially in such a situation) and therefor can accuse others of doing something without evidence. But if you have both from the same person/statement.... My hypocrite senses are tingling in such cases. | ||
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
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Shival
Netherlands643 Posts
http://esfiworld.com/news/thisisgame-interview-axcrank-translation | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
Only thing I'm sad about is that he doesnt seem to realize that saying "I dont want to leave for (foreign) money" and then looking for sponsors & streaming within a short period, makes him look bad. Even if it wasnt intentional I think it's fairly easy to see that some people interpret his actions like that. Also a bit too much whining in some of his statements for my taste (but hey others might like that). | ||
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ImNightmare
1575 Posts
On October 22 2012 23:20 Zocat wrote: Good interview shows a lot of things in a different light. Only thing I'm sad about is that he doesnt seem to realize that saying "I dont want to leave for (foreign) money" and then looking for sponsors & streaming within a short period, makes him look bad. Even if it wasnt intentional I think it's fairly easy to see that some people interpret his actions like that. Also a bit too much whining in some of his statements for my taste (but hey others might like that). It doesn't feel like whining. felt more like "how can they say that about me?" Dude seems to respect and love Boxer a lot, seems he just let his emotions of Jessica over ride his feelings for Boxer in that phone call. | ||
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