On October 22 2012 04:26 sekritzzz wrote: [quote] If anything cranks statement only re-enforced what Jessica was saying all along. These kids are spoilt brats. Im happy boxer left them actually, they dont deserve his experience and advice. Alicia whining about not being picked up from the airport (if i remember correctly) and crank whining about the condition when slayers is/was easily the most funded team, so I can only expect them to be in the top tier in terms of condition/training regime alongside IM. Honestly, I don't even get crank's whines, look at how many superstars slayers brought out. Who was Alicia, ryung, mma, crank, coca before slayers? How can anyone whine about slayers training regimen?
He wasn't whining abt the training regime, he was complaining about the bad 'conditions' and lack of care at the house.
I personally feel sorry for all the players involved. I can imagine the shitstorm they go through when they lose a gstl game and Jessica goes off at them judging from the way she's going off at all slights against her in the past, imagined or real.
Good luck crank, mma and alicia in their future teams, hopefully they find good teams.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
Although, apperantly he did need someone to keep things in line by that statement. Whether that's a reason to lie your way out of Slayers and burn your bridges. Not so sure.
He wasn't ever going to play in the GSTL... He already decided to leave at that point..
Indeed, and how was that communicated to the team?
Exactly. That is what I agree Crank should have taken responsibility for and admitted. He was very unprofessional in lying and he should have admitted it and apologized. He ignored it in his statement and I hope he doesen't in korean interviews. But people have the wrong idea about his motives for leaving.
On October 22 2012 04:11 WhiteDog wrote: I don't understand Crank's point of view at all. Like the team practice was bad ? What exactly ? Slayers was one of the most successful and one of the team with the most relaxed team environment. We even got video from Slayer players playing some random game like ninja turtle, and smiling, I don't see any team problem in there. Now of course he "rediscovered his passion for starcraft" thanks for axiom... blah. This statement from axiom give nothing more and doesn't do anything to deny Jessica's arguments until now.
On October 22 2012 00:30 lilsusie wrote: [quote]
What if he said Boxer came to the house but was only playing Hello Kitty Adventure all day and ignoring the players? That would make it worse, no? And according to the recording, he didn't say that Boxer did nothing for him.
I'm not saying that Crank is 100% right but people are taking sides like they need to - when in fact, both sides basically had misunderstandings. I think that Crank could have handled it in a more mature way and I think Jessica is overly emotional, thus things blew up.
You cannot ask people to be completly impartial in this because, no matter what, Crank found himself a team and a salary - something he would never have had before with his level (code B player) - while the Slayers team is no more.
If anything cranks statement only re-enforced what Jessica was saying all along. These kids are spoilt brats. Im happy boxer left them actually, they dont deserve his experience and advice. Alicia whining about not being picked up from the airport (if i remember correctly) and crank whining about the condition when slayers is/was easily the most funded team, so I can only expect them to be in the top tier in terms of condition/training regime alongside IM. Honestly, I don't even get crank's whines, look at how many superstars slayers brought out. Who was Alicia, ryung, mma, crank, coca before slayers? How can anyone whine about slayers training regimen?
He wasn't whining abt the training regime, he was complaining about the bad 'conditions' and lack of care at the house.
I personally feel sorry for all the players involved. I can imagine the shitstorm they go through when they lose a gstl game and Jessica goes off at them judging from the way she's going off at all slights against her in the past, imagined or real.
Good luck crank, mma and alicia in their future teams, hopefully they find good teams.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
He went home because of problems with his neck. You know, the same kind of problems that made him pull out of the MvP invitational while he was leading in the group stage. Are you saying he made up those neck problems to avoid practicing? o.O
On October 22 2012 04:11 WhiteDog wrote: I don't understand Crank's point of view at all. Like the team practice was bad ? What exactly ? Slayers was one of the most successful and one of the team with the most relaxed team environment. We even got video from Slayer players playing some random game like ninja turtle, and smiling, I don't see any team problem in there. Now of course he "rediscovered his passion for starcraft" thanks for axiom... blah. This statement from axiom give nothing more and doesn't do anything to deny Jessica's arguments until now.
[quote] You cannot ask people to be completly impartial in this because, no matter what, Crank found himself a team and a salary - something he would never have had before with his level (code B player) - while the Slayers team is no more.
If anything cranks statement only re-enforced what Jessica was saying all along. These kids are spoilt brats. Im happy boxer left them actually, they dont deserve his experience and advice. Alicia whining about not being picked up from the airport (if i remember correctly) and crank whining about the condition when slayers is/was easily the most funded team, so I can only expect them to be in the top tier in terms of condition/training regime alongside IM. Honestly, I don't even get crank's whines, look at how many superstars slayers brought out. Who was Alicia, ryung, mma, crank, coca before slayers? How can anyone whine about slayers training regimen?
He wasn't whining abt the training regime, he was complaining about the bad 'conditions' and lack of care at the house.
I personally feel sorry for all the players involved. I can imagine the shitstorm they go through when they lose a gstl game and Jessica goes off at them judging from the way she's going off at all slights against her in the past, imagined or real.
Good luck crank, mma and alicia in their future teams, hopefully they find good teams.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
He went home because of problems with his neck. You know, the same kind of problems that made him pull out of the MvP invitational while he was leading in the group stage. Are you saying he made up those neck problems to avoid practicing? o.O
Yes but he searched for a new team without even talking to Jessica. He told her that he was going to quit SC2. He lyed to get away from confronting her about it.
On October 22 2012 04:11 WhiteDog wrote: I don't understand Crank's point of view at all. Like the team practice was bad ? What exactly ? Slayers was one of the most successful and one of the team with the most relaxed team environment. We even got video from Slayer players playing some random game like ninja turtle, and smiling, I don't see any team problem in there. Now of course he "rediscovered his passion for starcraft" thanks for axiom... blah. This statement from axiom give nothing more and doesn't do anything to deny Jessica's arguments until now.
On October 22 2012 00:30 lilsusie wrote: [quote]
What if he said Boxer came to the house but was only playing Hello Kitty Adventure all day and ignoring the players? That would make it worse, no? And according to the recording, he didn't say that Boxer did nothing for him.
I'm not saying that Crank is 100% right but people are taking sides like they need to - when in fact, both sides basically had misunderstandings. I think that Crank could have handled it in a more mature way and I think Jessica is overly emotional, thus things blew up.
You cannot ask people to be completly impartial in this because, no matter what, Crank found himself a team and a salary - something he would never have had before with his level (code B player) - while the Slayers team is no more.
If anything cranks statement only re-enforced what Jessica was saying all along. These kids are spoilt brats. Im happy boxer left them actually, they dont deserve his experience and advice. Alicia whining about not being picked up from the airport (if i remember correctly) and crank whining about the condition when slayers is/was easily the most funded team, so I can only expect them to be in the top tier in terms of condition/training regime alongside IM. Honestly, I don't even get crank's whines, look at how many superstars slayers brought out. Who was Alicia, ryung, mma, crank, coca before slayers? How can anyone whine about slayers training regimen?
He wasn't whining abt the training regime, he was complaining about the bad 'conditions' and lack of care at the house.
I personally feel sorry for all the players involved. I can imagine the shitstorm they go through when they lose a gstl game and Jessica goes off at them judging from the way she's going off at all slights against her in the past, imagined or real.
Good luck crank, mma and alicia in their future teams, hopefully they find good teams.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
Although, apperantly he did need someone to keep things in line by that statement. Whether that's a reason to lie your way out of Slayers and burn your bridges. Not so sure.
I think the lack of practice excuse is BS. Players like Brown, Arthur, Miya, Dark and Miso were improving each week. They've also had Cella and Boxer as their coach/mentor since the beginning. Coach Ryu left but he was more of a terran coach. Some players just refused to practice because they didn't want to contribute to the team's success, more for their own.
On October 22 2012 04:26 sekritzzz wrote: [quote] If anything cranks statement only re-enforced what Jessica was saying all along. These kids are spoilt brats. Im happy boxer left them actually, they dont deserve his experience and advice. Alicia whining about not being picked up from the airport (if i remember correctly) and crank whining about the condition when slayers is/was easily the most funded team, so I can only expect them to be in the top tier in terms of condition/training regime alongside IM. Honestly, I don't even get crank's whines, look at how many superstars slayers brought out. Who was Alicia, ryung, mma, crank, coca before slayers? How can anyone whine about slayers training regimen?
He wasn't whining abt the training regime, he was complaining about the bad 'conditions' and lack of care at the house.
I personally feel sorry for all the players involved. I can imagine the shitstorm they go through when they lose a gstl game and Jessica goes off at them judging from the way she's going off at all slights against her in the past, imagined or real.
Good luck crank, mma and alicia in their future teams, hopefully they find good teams.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
He went home because of problems with his neck. You know, the same kind of problems that made him pull out of the MvP invitational while he was leading in the group stage. Are you saying he made up those neck problems to avoid practicing? o.O
Yes but he searched for a new team without even talking to Jessica. He told her that he was going to quit SC2.
He wasn't whining abt the training regime, he was complaining about the bad 'conditions' and lack of care at the house.
I personally feel sorry for all the players involved. I can imagine the shitstorm they go through when they lose a gstl game and Jessica goes off at them judging from the way she's going off at all slights against her in the past, imagined or real.
Good luck crank, mma and alicia in their future teams, hopefully they find good teams.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
Although, apperantly he did need someone to keep things in line by that statement. Whether that's a reason to lie your way out of Slayers and burn your bridges. Not so sure.
He wasn't ever going to play in the GSTL... He already decided to leave at that point..
Indeed, and how was that communicated to the team?
Exactly. That is what I agree Crank should have taken responsibility for and admitted. He was very unprofessional in lying and he should have admitted it and apologized. But people have the wrong idea about his motives for leaving.
Point taken.
Although I sincerely doubt that's the only reason. Jessica does give more possible reasons previous to the excerpt you quoted that may have influenced his motivation and stress level.
He wasn't whining abt the training regime, he was complaining about the bad 'conditions' and lack of care at the house.
I personally feel sorry for all the players involved. I can imagine the shitstorm they go through when they lose a gstl game and Jessica goes off at them judging from the way she's going off at all slights against her in the past, imagined or real.
Good luck crank, mma and alicia in their future teams, hopefully they find good teams.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
He went home because of problems with his neck. You know, the same kind of problems that made him pull out of the MvP invitational while he was leading in the group stage. Are you saying he made up those neck problems to avoid practicing? o.O
Yes but he searched for a new team without even talking to Jessica. He told her that he was going to quit SC2.
On October 22 2012 04:11 WhiteDog wrote: I don't understand Crank's point of view at all. Like the team practice was bad ? What exactly ? Slayers was one of the most successful and one of the team with the most relaxed team environment. We even got video from Slayer players playing some random game like ninja turtle, and smiling, I don't see any team problem in there. Now of course he "rediscovered his passion for starcraft" thanks for axiom... blah. This statement from axiom give nothing more and doesn't do anything to deny Jessica's arguments until now.
[quote] You cannot ask people to be completly impartial in this because, no matter what, Crank found himself a team and a salary - something he would never have had before with his level (code B player) - while the Slayers team is no more.
If anything cranks statement only re-enforced what Jessica was saying all along. These kids are spoilt brats. Im happy boxer left them actually, they dont deserve his experience and advice. Alicia whining about not being picked up from the airport (if i remember correctly) and crank whining about the condition when slayers is/was easily the most funded team, so I can only expect them to be in the top tier in terms of condition/training regime alongside IM. Honestly, I don't even get crank's whines, look at how many superstars slayers brought out. Who was Alicia, ryung, mma, crank, coca before slayers? How can anyone whine about slayers training regimen?
He wasn't whining abt the training regime, he was complaining about the bad 'conditions' and lack of care at the house.
I personally feel sorry for all the players involved. I can imagine the shitstorm they go through when they lose a gstl game and Jessica goes off at them judging from the way she's going off at all slights against her in the past, imagined or real.
Good luck crank, mma and alicia in their future teams, hopefully they find good teams.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
He went home because of problems with his neck. You know, the same kind of problems that made him pull out of the MvP invitational while he was leading in the group stage. Are you saying he made up those neck problems to avoid practicing? o.O
No, I'm not saying that at all. Here let me quote the paragraph in Jessica's statement for you.
Then one day, Crank said that he would go back home to rest because he had neck pain, that it was the early stages of a disc problem. This was just ahead of the GSTL Ro4. He asked if he could go home as he had a strategy prepared, and when I asked Cella, he said there was a specific build on a specific map he had prepared, so it would be okay if he practiced at home. However, Crank had told Cella that he wasn't going to practice when he went home, and asked him to keep it a secret.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
He went home because of problems with his neck. You know, the same kind of problems that made him pull out of the MvP invitational while he was leading in the group stage. Are you saying he made up those neck problems to avoid practicing? o.O
Yes but he searched for a new team without even talking to Jessica. He told her that he was going to quit SC2.
On October 22 2012 04:11 WhiteDog wrote: I don't understand Crank's point of view at all. Like the team practice was bad ? What exactly ? Slayers was one of the most successful and one of the team with the most relaxed team environment. We even got video from Slayer players playing some random game like ninja turtle, and smiling, I don't see any team problem in there. Now of course he "rediscovered his passion for starcraft" thanks for axiom... blah. This statement from axiom give nothing more and doesn't do anything to deny Jessica's arguments until now.
[quote] You cannot ask people to be completly impartial in this because, no matter what, Crank found himself a team and a salary - something he would never have had before with his level (code B player) - while the Slayers team is no more.
If anything cranks statement only re-enforced what Jessica was saying all along. These kids are spoilt brats. Im happy boxer left them actually, they dont deserve his experience and advice. Alicia whining about not being picked up from the airport (if i remember correctly) and crank whining about the condition when slayers is/was easily the most funded team, so I can only expect them to be in the top tier in terms of condition/training regime alongside IM. Honestly, I don't even get crank's whines, look at how many superstars slayers brought out. Who was Alicia, ryung, mma, crank, coca before slayers? How can anyone whine about slayers training regimen?
He wasn't whining abt the training regime, he was complaining about the bad 'conditions' and lack of care at the house.
I personally feel sorry for all the players involved. I can imagine the shitstorm they go through when they lose a gstl game and Jessica goes off at them judging from the way she's going off at all slights against her in the past, imagined or real.
Good luck crank, mma and alicia in their future teams, hopefully they find good teams.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
He went home because of problems with his neck. You know, the same kind of problems that made him pull out of the MvP invitational while he was leading in the group stage. Are you saying he made up those neck problems to avoid practicing? o.O
How do you know he wasn't faking his neck injury? Were you there with him? I wish people like you would stop posting and oversimplifying things. BTW yes he was faking neck injury to leave the team. actually he said he was quitting sc2 due to his neck injury.
On October 22 2012 04:26 sekritzzz wrote: [quote] If anything cranks statement only re-enforced what Jessica was saying all along. These kids are spoilt brats. Im happy boxer left them actually, they dont deserve his experience and advice. Alicia whining about not being picked up from the airport (if i remember correctly) and crank whining about the condition when slayers is/was easily the most funded team, so I can only expect them to be in the top tier in terms of condition/training regime alongside IM. Honestly, I don't even get crank's whines, look at how many superstars slayers brought out. Who was Alicia, ryung, mma, crank, coca before slayers? How can anyone whine about slayers training regimen?
He wasn't whining abt the training regime, he was complaining about the bad 'conditions' and lack of care at the house.
I personally feel sorry for all the players involved. I can imagine the shitstorm they go through when they lose a gstl game and Jessica goes off at them judging from the way she's going off at all slights against her in the past, imagined or real.
Good luck crank, mma and alicia in their future teams, hopefully they find good teams.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
He went home because of problems with his neck. You know, the same kind of problems that made him pull out of the MvP invitational while he was leading in the group stage. Are you saying he made up those neck problems to avoid practicing? o.O
How do you know he wasn't faking his neck injury? Were you there with him? I wish people like you would stop posting and oversimplifying things. BTW yes he was faking neck injury to leave the team. actually he said he was quitting sc2 due to his neck injury.
You haven't yet replied to my previous questions to you.
On October 22 2012 04:26 sekritzzz wrote: [quote] If anything cranks statement only re-enforced what Jessica was saying all along. These kids are spoilt brats. Im happy boxer left them actually, they dont deserve his experience and advice. Alicia whining about not being picked up from the airport (if i remember correctly) and crank whining about the condition when slayers is/was easily the most funded team, so I can only expect them to be in the top tier in terms of condition/training regime alongside IM. Honestly, I don't even get crank's whines, look at how many superstars slayers brought out. Who was Alicia, ryung, mma, crank, coca before slayers? How can anyone whine about slayers training regimen?
He wasn't whining abt the training regime, he was complaining about the bad 'conditions' and lack of care at the house.
I personally feel sorry for all the players involved. I can imagine the shitstorm they go through when they lose a gstl game and Jessica goes off at them judging from the way she's going off at all slights against her in the past, imagined or real.
Good luck crank, mma and alicia in their future teams, hopefully they find good teams.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
He went home because of problems with his neck. You know, the same kind of problems that made him pull out of the MvP invitational while he was leading in the group stage. Are you saying he made up those neck problems to avoid practicing? o.O
No, I'm not saying that at all. Here let me quote the paragraph in Jessica's statement for you.
Then one day, Crank said that he would go back home to rest because he had neck pain, that it was the early stages of a disc problem. This was just ahead of the GSTL Ro4. He asked if he could go home as he had a strategy prepared, and when I asked Cella, he said there was a specific build on a specific map he had prepared, so it would be okay if he practiced at home. However, Crank had told Cella that he wasn't going to practice when he went home, and asked him to keep it a secret.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up. From the sources given, it appears that Crank decided to quite pro-gaming for various reasons, and once he was home he began streaming just to make some money (everyone's gonna live from something), and then decided to look for another team after all. That's not exactly the ideal way to do things, but cursing him into hell for all eternity, as some people here seem to do, seems just a tad bit of an overreaction.
He wasn't whining abt the training regime, he was complaining about the bad 'conditions' and lack of care at the house.
I personally feel sorry for all the players involved. I can imagine the shitstorm they go through when they lose a gstl game and Jessica goes off at them judging from the way she's going off at all slights against her in the past, imagined or real.
Good luck crank, mma and alicia in their future teams, hopefully they find good teams.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
He went home because of problems with his neck. You know, the same kind of problems that made him pull out of the MvP invitational while he was leading in the group stage. Are you saying he made up those neck problems to avoid practicing? o.O
How do you know he wasn't faking his neck injury? Were you there with him? I wish people like you would stop posting and oversimplifying things. BTW yes he was faking neck injury to leave the team. actually he said he was quitting sc2 due to his neck injury.
You haven't yet replied to my previous questions to you.
He wasn't whining abt the training regime, he was complaining about the bad 'conditions' and lack of care at the house.
I personally feel sorry for all the players involved. I can imagine the shitstorm they go through when they lose a gstl game and Jessica goes off at them judging from the way she's going off at all slights against her in the past, imagined or real.
Good luck crank, mma and alicia in their future teams, hopefully they find good teams.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
He went home because of problems with his neck. You know, the same kind of problems that made him pull out of the MvP invitational while he was leading in the group stage. Are you saying he made up those neck problems to avoid practicing? o.O
No, I'm not saying that at all. Here let me quote the paragraph in Jessica's statement for you.
Then one day, Crank said that he would go back home to rest because he had neck pain, that it was the early stages of a disc problem. This was just ahead of the GSTL Ro4. He asked if he could go home as he had a strategy prepared, and when I asked Cella, he said there was a specific build on a specific map he had prepared, so it would be okay if he practiced at home. However, Crank had told Cella that he wasn't going to practice when he went home, and asked him to keep it a secret.
Ah, thanks for clearing that up. From the sources given, it appears that Crank decided to quite pro-gaming for various reasons, and once he was home he began streaming just to make some money (everyone's gonna live from something), and then decided to look for another team after all. That's not exactly the ideal way to do things, but cursing him into hell for all eternity, as some people here seem to do, seems just a tad bit of an overreaction.
I think Crank should be viewed seperately from MMA/Alicia for now. From the looks of things, he was caught up in a lot of misunderstanding =(
On October 22 2012 04:26 sekritzzz wrote: [quote] If anything cranks statement only re-enforced what Jessica was saying all along. These kids are spoilt brats. Im happy boxer left them actually, they dont deserve his experience and advice. Alicia whining about not being picked up from the airport (if i remember correctly) and crank whining about the condition when slayers is/was easily the most funded team, so I can only expect them to be in the top tier in terms of condition/training regime alongside IM. Honestly, I don't even get crank's whines, look at how many superstars slayers brought out. Who was Alicia, ryung, mma, crank, coca before slayers? How can anyone whine about slayers training regimen?
He wasn't whining abt the training regime, he was complaining about the bad 'conditions' and lack of care at the house.
I personally feel sorry for all the players involved. I can imagine the shitstorm they go through when they lose a gstl game and Jessica goes off at them judging from the way she's going off at all slights against her in the past, imagined or real.
Good luck crank, mma and alicia in their future teams, hopefully they find good teams.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
He went home because of problems with his neck. You know, the same kind of problems that made him pull out of the MvP invitational while he was leading in the group stage. Are you saying he made up those neck problems to avoid practicing? o.O
How do you know he wasn't faking his neck injury? Were you there with him? I wish people like you would stop posting and oversimplifying things. BTW yes he was faking neck injury to leave the team. actually he said he was quitting sc2 due to his neck injury.
Because Crank is receiving hospital treatment atm for his physical condition and had to draw out of the invitational, I highly doubt he was faking his injury. These sorts of injuries don't just appear out of nowhere; they develop over months if not years.
It's more likely it was just a combination of different factors. One thing exacerbated the other, which just frustrated him and made him want to get out of the team.
He wasn't whining abt the training regime, he was complaining about the bad 'conditions' and lack of care at the house.
I personally feel sorry for all the players involved. I can imagine the shitstorm they go through when they lose a gstl game and Jessica goes off at them judging from the way she's going off at all slights against her in the past, imagined or real.
Good luck crank, mma and alicia in their future teams, hopefully they find good teams.
"I felt for a while that Jessica, Boxer and coach Cella were not taking proper care of the team, in terms of motivation, practice routines, house atmosphere, etcetera."
He was.
I have to question everything he said. Is someone suppose to be there to motivate the players? Isn't it up to the players to motivate themselves? Whenever EG streams, I don't see anyone standing behind their back trying to motivate them. What about the practice routines? Was it too harsh? It couldn't have been too light because they were still having a lot of success. Maybe not in individual GSL but they were always the top team in EG cup, IPTL, etc. House atmosphere, that can be anything. If players like Crank, MMA, Alicia didn't have things go their way, of course the house atmosphere can go bad. Lets face it, these guys were just SPOILED BRATS.
Jessicas statement clearly explains that Cranks argument was lack of practice and discipline so his argument was that they were being spoiled.
No it wasn't, Jessica's statement only says that due to various reasons practice for GSTL started to drop. Never did Crank argued that such a thing is bad, in fact he seems to be one of the persons that actively tried to not practice for it according to her statement. Please point me to where Crank argues they were being spoiled in Jessica's statement.
I don't know what kinds of conversations they had, but Crank began to say that the atmosphere was giving him stress. In a situation where players had to concentrate and practice for the GSTL, he said players weren't listening and not playing games. Boxer was resting with shoulder problems at the time, but it seemed like he should be with the team so I sent him to the house to look over the players.
The main concern Crank brings up is practice and he brings it up again in his statement. He doesen't talk about living conditions or money. He is talking about the stress he was living under because no one was in control.
Indeed, and according to the same statement you are refering to, one of the players that tried to actively avoid practice for the GSTL was Crank. Kind of ironic to complain about lack of practice no?
He went home because of problems with his neck. You know, the same kind of problems that made him pull out of the MvP invitational while he was leading in the group stage. Are you saying he made up those neck problems to avoid practicing? o.O
How do you know he wasn't faking his neck injury? Were you there with him? I wish people like you would stop posting and oversimplifying things. BTW yes he was faking neck injury to leave the team. actually he said he was quitting sc2 due to his neck injury.
Because Crank is receiving hospital treatment atm for his physical condition and had to draw out of the invitational, I highly doubt he was faking his injury. These sorts of injuries don't just appear out of nowhere; they develop over months if not years.
He may not have faked it. Actually I think it's a given that he does have neck problems.
However he does seem to have used it as an excuse in the matter. Here's a couple of facts and statements (gained through various threads, even older ones), make of it what you will.
- He first mentioned his disk problem somewhere close, but before the 21st of july 2012. He asked to go home to practice for the RO4 of the GSTL. (side comment: what difference does home make in the case of neck problems?) - During this time he told Cella that he wasn't going to practice at home and to keep it a secret. - On the 21st of july 2012 he asked if he could be removed from the roster of the GSTL. No reply to either of Jessica's messages on that day. Even though it was the RO4 on that day. - Some time later but between the 21st and 26th of july 2012, Cella told Jessica that Crank told him he would be quitting the game. He (Crank) stated himself to Jessica that he wanted to rest, and had no thoughts of joining another team be it foreign or otherwise. - He was released (voluntarily) by Slayers on the 26th due to disk problems and tiredness. - On that very same day he was found streaming for 8 to 10 hours. This continued for at the very least a couple more days. - During his streams he actively tried to find new teams to support him.
Isn't this a very short term to change your mind so completely, not to mention apperantly not having as much problems with your neck at the time as you were making them/and us believe.
Also: "Crank claims that he only planned to play SC2 till the end of this year, and he left the team so he could play the game comfortably, but we'll have to see if that's true. Just in case he wants to change his story later, I recorded his call."
Now I assume that's the Korean new year (Februari 10th, 2013), so let's see shall we? I don't know why Axiom thinks it's a good idea to sign a player that claims to play for such a short term only. Oh well...
All this time we're waiting for Crank's statement, and yet he provided ZERO proof. I would love to see Jessica's recording so we can see how much of a liar he is. I think Crank just want things done his way on the team house and when it doesn't, he try to take people to leave with him. I see this exact motion in many teams.
On October 22 2012 07:42 Fearest wrote: All this time we're waiting for Crank's statement, and yet he provided ZERO proof. I would love to see Jessica's recording so we can see how much of a liar he is. I think Crank just want things done his way on the team house and when it doesn't, he try to take people to leave with him. I see this exact motion in many teams.
The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused.
On October 22 2012 07:42 Fearest wrote: All this time we're waiting for Crank's statement, and yet he provided ZERO proof. I would love to see Jessica's recording so we can see how much of a liar he is. I think Crank just want things done his way on the team house and when it doesn't, he try to take people to leave with him. I see this exact motion in many teams.
The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused.
I was just going to say "I agree", and then, oh, TotalBiscuit.
So instead I'll say "there's absolutely no question about that".
On October 22 2012 07:42 Fearest wrote: All this time we're waiting for Crank's statement, and yet he provided ZERO proof. I would love to see Jessica's recording so we can see how much of a liar he is. I think Crank just want things done his way on the team house and when it doesn't, he try to take people to leave with him. I see this exact motion in many teams.
The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused.
There is like a one hour thing Jessica is gonna post or something.
For being one hour long it better be a raunchy sex tape.
On October 22 2012 07:42 Fearest wrote: All this time we're waiting for Crank's statement, and yet he provided ZERO proof. I would love to see Jessica's recording so we can see how much of a liar he is. I think Crank just want things done his way on the team house and when it doesn't, he try to take people to leave with him. I see this exact motion in many teams.
The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused.
There is like a one hour thing Jessica is gonna post or something.
For being one hour long it better be a raunchy sex tape.
I want her to release the tape, then for someone to translate the full hour.
On October 22 2012 07:42 Fearest wrote: All this time we're waiting for Crank's statement, and yet he provided ZERO proof. I would love to see Jessica's recording so we can see how much of a liar he is. I think Crank just want things done his way on the team house and when it doesn't, he try to take people to leave with him. I see this exact motion in many teams.
The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused.
There is like a one hour thing Jessica is gonna post or something.
For being one hour long it better be a raunchy sex tape.
I want her to release the tape, then for someone to translate the full hour.
Someone should stream it and live translate.
EDIT: Unless it IS a raunchy sex tape, then that person needs to be female.
EPT
