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Jaedong4thOSL
Profile Joined August 2011
United States487 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 04:11:28
October 20 2012 04:10 GMT
#3261
On October 20 2012 12:58 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 12:56 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
On October 20 2012 12:44 Shival wrote:
On October 20 2012 12:40 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
On October 20 2012 12:38 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On October 20 2012 12:32 quickclickz wrote:
On October 20 2012 12:28 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On October 20 2012 12:25 quickclickz wrote:
On October 20 2012 12:20 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
On October 20 2012 12:18 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
[quote]
Was genius offended? Or "that's your own opinion"... I don't recall seeing Genius get upset.


Even if Genius did not, but Boxer did because the insult is towards the team. He still need to apologize.


I don't see how it offends the team. He didn't say slayers was trash he simply said, genius, a player on slayers, was trash.

When you say, "white trash," you're saying someone who's white is being dumb. You're not insulting all white people. And if you are white and are offended by that statement then you're drawing your own conclusions and thinking of implications that aren't necessarily true nor stated by the person who said "white trash." Certainly you can say "oh but racism!" but quite frankly that isn't the issue at hand and insulting someone with some more literal details doesn't seem to be racism in my eyes.


No matter how you spin it, whether you will get offended in that situation. Fact is Boxer did get offended, and those are not nice words, apology from MC is needed.


There's no fucking spinning, it's english, black and white. He is trash and he's slayers. You're the one spinning it and giving boxer a valid reason to be offended. I'm offended that your name starts with J, can you please apologize? My girlfriend got raped by someone whose name started with the letter J. Please apologize and change your name.

Additionally, MC understands that there could be people like you who like to infer things and spin things and not take something at face value when it really is just that face value.

MC via twitter: So i guess not leaving a practice match of an opposing team is not BM and my cursing out a friend in a friendly manner is. I apologize for insulting the team name but why did you not say something then instead of doing this over twitter?


My ID starts with J, it is not bad words, so I don't need to apologize. MC's words are not nice though.

And again, people don't get offended, that's fine, but if they do, then apologize, because his words are not nice.



Why should you apologize for offending? Maybe we can start there, forget the part it was banter between friends and competitors, forget the part it was grossly taken out of context, why would I apologize for offending you?


It's called civilization, we generally try to be nice to each other. I sure would apologize if I cursed at someone and he seemed offended. I however wouldn't apologize if I said something about for example religion, without cursing, and they seem offended. But that's because I feel I didn't do anything wrong.


So... Let me get this straight, because you have your morale compass on your way it's ok for you to insult a persons belief and religion while not apologizing but not what, their feelings? Talk about double standard.

I live with the idea that we say what we mean, we joke when we joke. This synonym bullshit and happy double standards is what we have an issue with. What happened to honesty and bantering? I should apologize because it makes you feel better? MC should apologize because his joke with a totally different person made boxer (probably moreso Jessica) upset? Why, to make them feel better? He said what he mean't, in context. It's this dishonest feel good "civilization" that's the problem. Reminds me of that fat (yes fat, not overweight) girl who went on the news upset because she was criticized about her weight looking for some apology and then using her position to levy it in an even more morally offensive manner. To many double standards.

I guess I'll stay honest and say what I mean and joke when I joke while you can move around and apologize for words you said and meant at the time but were offensive to someone making you regret meaning them.

On October 20 2012 12:55 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 20 2012 12:52 lambac0re wrote:
On October 20 2012 12:48 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 20 2012 12:47 Shival wrote:
On October 20 2012 12:46 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 20 2012 12:45 Shival wrote:
On October 20 2012 12:42 ImNightmare wrote:
On October 20 2012 12:41 Shival wrote:
[quote]

It is, infact it's slander.

Definition of slander : The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.

What is his reputation apart from constantly bashing people who thinks Jessica is in the wrong?


Thanks for the definition, I'm not sure why you like to dig your own grave but.. thanks I guess.

Again, Definition of slander : The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
And why would you say thanks? I wasn't talking to you. :/ LOL. oh....


Err, you're bolding spoken? Written word is slander aswell.

Is this written? Or typed? And btw, the definition is already there. If you think a dictionary is wrong, then laughing out loud because nowhere did it say a written word is slander.

Shiva used the wrong term, it's called libel.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel?s=t
Case in point: You accused me of being a smurf with absolutely no evidence with the clearly malicious purpose of discrediting me. You clearly stated that I was surfing to lend credence to my own arguments.
Do you deny this?

OKay just to humor you, lets just say that I am wrong, (i am 100% certain I am not), what are you going to do? Sue me? I have 1k in my bank. Will that settle the lawsuit?


That's an insanely immature response... I mean the fact the three of you are arguing semantics so hard, totally off topic is one thing, but to go "sue me" on a public discussion is asking for a ban.

Ahh...sucks... but I do stand on my ground, Iambac0re and 4thjaedongosl is the same person.


lol, why get into the trouble of using two accounts? I alone can do the job.

And also, he already apologized, why bother argue with that, you guys?
MicroTastiC
Profile Joined January 2011
375 Posts
October 20 2012 04:36 GMT
#3262
so what teams did the slayers join for LoL?
Fyrewolf
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1533 Posts
October 20 2012 04:46 GMT
#3263
On October 20 2012 12:45 m4inbrain wrote:
Wow.. I laugh my ass off right now, americans trying to defend "slayers-trash". Of course Boxer has the right to get pissed off, theres no need to twist something. You might want to remember that it was 90% white people who went apeshit over "Nigger" (Orb/Destiny). So either you guys are the most hypocritical monkeys ever, or you seriously got something wrong in terms of who can be offended and who can not. Seems that you guys actually twist it how you need it. If my team gets insulted (and it was an insult, not a "joke", and genius took it exactly that way - or what would you call it if you call your friend "motherf'ing cunt", to which he responds with silence and leaving the room? I know some americans (mostly soldiers stationed here), and neither of them would assume that they were funny, or that this was "friendly banter").

Mindblowing, seriously.

Edit:
+ Show Spoiler +

and i talk specifically about americans, because they were the ones going bonkers over that word.


You shouldn't lump all americans in with that crowd just because some of those posters happen to be american, you're better than that. There are hypocrites everywhere. People who think it wasn't a joke might just not care enough about that part to post about it or just be burnt out on this thread, leaving only a vocal minority who actually feel the need to justify that it was a joke. But there is no need to bash an entire country just because of a select few.
"This is not Warcraft in space" "It's much more...... Sophisticated" "I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D!!!"
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
October 20 2012 04:51 GMT
#3264
30 pages later it's still ImNightmare arguing with about 10 different people.
Eusebiu23
Profile Joined July 2012
United States31 Posts
October 20 2012 04:57 GMT
#3265
hahahha lol Daozzt
Ironsights
Profile Joined January 2011
United States196 Posts
October 20 2012 05:25 GMT
#3266
Well, having justread this...its truly sad.

I was a slayers fan and enjoyed Boxer's play.

Hell, as a poor-skilled terran Slayers was often the source of some real inspiration.

A sad thing to see them fall.

R.I.P Slayers.
Pain, like any other emotion, can be turned off. // If there can be no victory, then I shall fight forever.
PPTouch
Profile Joined January 2011
99 Posts
October 20 2012 05:32 GMT
#3267
So sad .
Glad boxer got out before this happened.
PviLLe3
Profile Joined January 2012
United States305 Posts
October 20 2012 05:47 GMT
#3268
just read all the cliffs, does it say anywhere about what jessica meant when alicia did something " illegal" and it might result in legal issues? i dont get that part
megacrack
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia171 Posts
October 20 2012 05:53 GMT
#3269
i think jessica has right to be mad but the solution was wrong. as a korean i somewhat agree.. i do shitloads of swearing to my friends, but i do not say it infront of my mum.. and if i was chatting to my friend on fb or something and saw my friend say motherfucker to me and my mum saw it.. she will bo ape shit like what jessica did i guess.. hindsight both were wrong to do what they did.. mc did is what exactly what he said jessica was doing wrong.. it was irrational but at the end that made him a hypocrite
m4inbrain
Profile Joined November 2011
1505 Posts
October 20 2012 05:55 GMT
#3270
On October 20 2012 13:46 Fyrewolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 12:45 m4inbrain wrote:
Wow.. I laugh my ass off right now, americans trying to defend "slayers-trash". Of course Boxer has the right to get pissed off, theres no need to twist something. You might want to remember that it was 90% white people who went apeshit over "Nigger" (Orb/Destiny). So either you guys are the most hypocritical monkeys ever, or you seriously got something wrong in terms of who can be offended and who can not. Seems that you guys actually twist it how you need it. If my team gets insulted (and it was an insult, not a "joke", and genius took it exactly that way - or what would you call it if you call your friend "motherf'ing cunt", to which he responds with silence and leaving the room? I know some americans (mostly soldiers stationed here), and neither of them would assume that they were funny, or that this was "friendly banter").

Mindblowing, seriously.

Edit:
+ Show Spoiler +

and i talk specifically about americans, because they were the ones going bonkers over that word.


You shouldn't lump all americans in with that crowd just because some of those posters happen to be american, you're better than that. There are hypocrites everywhere. People who think it wasn't a joke might just not care enough about that part to post about it or just be burnt out on this thread, leaving only a vocal minority who actually feel the need to justify that it was a joke. But there is no need to bash an entire country just because of a select few.


It was not meant to bash all americans (i even added that the americans who i know [granted, only 4 people] personally, would not think that its a joke when your friend suddenly remains silent).

Maybe you're right and i should've written the statement a little bit differently. Still, after what happened to Orb and others because of something that in america is considered harmful/insulting (Nigger), i can't take stuff like these guys seriously. Same goes btw for germans (i'm german and get really hot when someone calls us Nazi or smth like that - whereas in america its not such a big deal), so i'm not pointing fingers at americans.

I apologize for putting all americans in one drawer (don't even know if that phrase works in english), even if i did not really meant to. Still i see your point. And now i really have to sleep, its 7:54 in the morning and i still can't sleep. -.-
MaV_gGSC
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1345 Posts
October 20 2012 06:09 GMT
#3271
*shudder* My heart just died for a second. Sad news :/
Life's good :D
bucckevin
Profile Joined April 2011
858 Posts
October 20 2012 06:09 GMT
#3272
I still can't believe people haven't given TIG shit for withholding this information for well over a month. They simply refused to release it after interviewing Jessica, forcing her to release it on her own.

Well I guess now we know why they say TIG is eSF friendly. Shame on them.
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
October 20 2012 06:12 GMT
#3273
On October 20 2012 15:09 bucckevin wrote:
I still can't believe people haven't given TIG shit for withholding this information for well over a month. They simply refused to release it after interviewing Jessica, forcing her to release it on her own.

Well I guess now we know why they say TIG is eSF friendly. Shame on them.

Yeah pretty shitty from them.. Koreans are calling them the Esf paper (연맹기관지) at this point

But TL is way to pro ESF and Anti jessica
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
October 20 2012 06:15 GMT
#3274
On October 20 2012 12:51 ImNightmare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 12:50 toadstool wrote:
Jessica overreacting as usual. This is like teasing a friend about their nationality, and their mother coming over and asking you to apologize to their entire race.

I still remember the slayer's eve issue. Lol... someone said drama bonjwa.. indeed.

That one was korean netizens editing porn and pasting eves face on porn stars... Please i know you dont like her

But that was not a situation she was a drama queen

That was an adequate measure
farnham
Profile Joined January 2011
1378 Posts
October 20 2012 06:16 GMT
#3275
On October 20 2012 05:44 lambac0re wrote:
Just update from the other thread:
MC's formal apology - still untranslated to the best of my knowledge: http://www.playxp.com/sc2/bbs/view.php?article_id=4198467

Thats not an apology

Thats saying aight i admit i did wrong but you did me wrong like one and a half ago

Apologize mang
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
October 20 2012 06:21 GMT
#3276
Slayers suppose to be run by Boxer isn't it? He is the one with experience, connection, vision. I know Jessica might be Manager or something but shouldn't Boxer be the Managing Director of the team? Shit and dispute happen everyday in a team, we have seen it everyday in every sport. I think that if Boxer is the one who manage thing in Slayers, this might not happen. I am not saying Jessica is a bad person, on the contrary, I think she is a good person. However, managing a team need more than that.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
October 20 2012 07:57 GMT
#3277
A quick update.

CranK is working with a trustworthy translator to go into great detail about the situation and what happened. I know what's been going on and I am 100% confident standing behind CranK. You can expect a lot of information to come to light in the next few days that tells the other side of the story that so far remains unexplored.
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 20 2012 08:06 GMT
#3278
On October 20 2012 16:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
A quick update.

CranK is working with a trustworthy translator to go into great detail about the situation and what happened. I know what's been going on and I am 100% confident standing behind CranK. You can expect a lot of information to come to light in the next few days that tells the other side of the story that so far remains unexplored.


Good for you TB standing behind your player, hopefully this comes out soon to clarify things.
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
October 20 2012 08:14 GMT
#3279
On October 20 2012 16:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
A quick update.

CranK is working with a trustworthy translator to go into great detail about the situation and what happened. I know what's been going on and I am 100% confident standing behind CranK. You can expect a lot of information to come to light in the next few days that tells the other side of the story that so far remains unexplored.


Why does crank need a translator to give his side in korean to koreans? A translation can be done post interview by someone on TL.
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 20 2012 08:27 GMT
#3280
On October 20 2012 17:14 Canucklehead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 16:57 TotalBiscuit wrote:
A quick update.

CranK is working with a trustworthy translator to go into great detail about the situation and what happened. I know what's been going on and I am 100% confident standing behind CranK. You can expect a lot of information to come to light in the next few days that tells the other side of the story that so far remains unexplored.


Why does crank need a translator to give his side in korean to koreans? A translation can be done post interview by someone on TL.

ummm maybe he wants it to be available in Korean and English at the same time?
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