EPTOn October 20 2012 12:58 ImNightmare wrote:
Ahh...sucks... but I do stand on my ground, Iambac0re and 4thjaedongosl is the same person.
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On October 20 2012 12:56 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
So... Let me get this straight, because you have your morale compass on your way it's ok for you to insult a persons belief and religion while not apologizing but not what, their feelings? Talk about double standard.
I live with the idea that we say what we mean, we joke when we joke. This synonym bullshit and happy double standards is what we have an issue with. What happened to honesty and bantering? I should apologize because it makes you feel better? MC should apologize because his joke with a totally different person made boxer (probably moreso Jessica) upset? Why, to make them feel better? He said what he mean't, in context. It's this dishonest feel good "civilization" that's the problem. Reminds me of that fat (yes fat, not overweight) girl who went on the news upset because she was criticized about her weight looking for some apology and then using her position to levy it in an even more morally offensive manner. To many double standards.
I guess I'll stay honest and say what I mean and joke when I joke while you can move around and apologize for words you said and meant at the time but were offensive to someone making you regret meaning them.
That's an insanely immature response... I mean the fact the three of you are arguing semantics so hard, totally off topic is one thing, but to go "sue me" on a public discussion is asking for a ban.
On October 20 2012 12:44 Shival wrote:
It's called civilization, we generally try to be nice to each other. I sure would apologize if I cursed at someone and he seemed offended. I however wouldn't apologize if I said something about for example religion, without cursing, and they seem offended. But that's because I feel I didn't do anything wrong.
On October 20 2012 12:40 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
Why should you apologize for offending? Maybe we can start there, forget the part it was banter between friends and competitors, forget the part it was grossly taken out of context, why would I apologize for offending you?
On October 20 2012 12:38 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
My ID starts with J, it is not bad words, so I don't need to apologize. MC's words are not nice though.
And again, people don't get offended, that's fine, but if they do, then apologize, because his words are not nice.
On October 20 2012 12:32 quickclickz wrote:
There's no fucking spinning, it's english, black and white. He is trash and he's slayers. You're the one spinning it and giving boxer a valid reason to be offended. I'm offended that your name starts with J, can you please apologize? My girlfriend got raped by someone whose name started with the letter J. Please apologize and change your name.
Additionally, MC understands that there could be people like you who like to infer things and spin things and not take something at face value when it really is just that face value.
MC via twitter: So i guess not leaving a practice match of an opposing team is not BM and my cursing out a friend in a friendly manner is. I apologize for insulting the team name but why did you not say something then instead of doing this over twitter?
On October 20 2012 12:28 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
No matter how you spin it, whether you will get offended in that situation. Fact is Boxer did get offended, and those are not nice words, apology from MC is needed.
On October 20 2012 12:25 quickclickz wrote:
I don't see how it offends the team. He didn't say slayers was trash he simply said, genius, a player on slayers, was trash.
When you say, "white trash," you're saying someone who's white is being dumb. You're not insulting all white people. And if you are white and are offended by that statement then you're drawing your own conclusions and thinking of implications that aren't necessarily true nor stated by the person who said "white trash." Certainly you can say "oh but racism!" but quite frankly that isn't the issue at hand and insulting someone with some more literal details doesn't seem to be racism in my eyes.
On October 20 2012 12:20 Jaedong4thOSL wrote:
Even if Genius did not, but Boxer did because the insult is towards the team. He still need to apologize.
On October 20 2012 12:18 NeMeSiS3 wrote:
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Was genius offended? Or "that's your own opinion"... I don't recall seeing Genius get upset.
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Was genius offended? Or "that's your own opinion"... I don't recall seeing Genius get upset.
Even if Genius did not, but Boxer did because the insult is towards the team. He still need to apologize.
I don't see how it offends the team. He didn't say slayers was trash he simply said, genius, a player on slayers, was trash.
When you say, "white trash," you're saying someone who's white is being dumb. You're not insulting all white people. And if you are white and are offended by that statement then you're drawing your own conclusions and thinking of implications that aren't necessarily true nor stated by the person who said "white trash." Certainly you can say "oh but racism!" but quite frankly that isn't the issue at hand and insulting someone with some more literal details doesn't seem to be racism in my eyes.
No matter how you spin it, whether you will get offended in that situation. Fact is Boxer did get offended, and those are not nice words, apology from MC is needed.
There's no fucking spinning, it's english, black and white. He is trash and he's slayers. You're the one spinning it and giving boxer a valid reason to be offended. I'm offended that your name starts with J, can you please apologize? My girlfriend got raped by someone whose name started with the letter J. Please apologize and change your name.
Additionally, MC understands that there could be people like you who like to infer things and spin things and not take something at face value when it really is just that face value.
MC via twitter: So i guess not leaving a practice match of an opposing team is not BM and my cursing out a friend in a friendly manner is. I apologize for insulting the team name but why did you not say something then instead of doing this over twitter?
My ID starts with J, it is not bad words, so I don't need to apologize. MC's words are not nice though.
And again, people don't get offended, that's fine, but if they do, then apologize, because his words are not nice.
Why should you apologize for offending? Maybe we can start there, forget the part it was banter between friends and competitors, forget the part it was grossly taken out of context, why would I apologize for offending you?
It's called civilization, we generally try to be nice to each other. I sure would apologize if I cursed at someone and he seemed offended. I however wouldn't apologize if I said something about for example religion, without cursing, and they seem offended. But that's because I feel I didn't do anything wrong.
So... Let me get this straight, because you have your morale compass on your way it's ok for you to insult a persons belief and religion while not apologizing but not what, their feelings? Talk about double standard.
I live with the idea that we say what we mean, we joke when we joke. This synonym bullshit and happy double standards is what we have an issue with. What happened to honesty and bantering? I should apologize because it makes you feel better? MC should apologize because his joke with a totally different person made boxer (probably moreso Jessica) upset? Why, to make them feel better? He said what he mean't, in context. It's this dishonest feel good "civilization" that's the problem. Reminds me of that fat (yes fat, not overweight) girl who went on the news upset because she was criticized about her weight looking for some apology and then using her position to levy it in an even more morally offensive manner. To many double standards.
I guess I'll stay honest and say what I mean and joke when I joke while you can move around and apologize for words you said and meant at the time but were offensive to someone making you regret meaning them.
On October 20 2012 12:55 ImNightmare wrote:
OKay just to humor you, lets just say that I am wrong, (i am 100% certain I am not), what are you going to do? Sue me? I have 1k in my bank. Will that settle the lawsuit?
On October 20 2012 12:52 lambac0re wrote:
Shiva used the wrong term, it's called libel.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel?s=t
Case in point: You accused me of being a smurf with absolutely no evidence with the clearly malicious purpose of discrediting me. You clearly stated that I was surfing to lend credence to my own arguments.
Do you deny this?
On October 20 2012 12:48 ImNightmare wrote:
Is this written? Or typed? And btw, the definition is already there. If you think a dictionary is wrong, then laughing out loud because nowhere did it say a written word is slander.
On October 20 2012 12:47 Shival wrote:
Err, you're bolding spoken? Written word is slander aswell.
On October 20 2012 12:46 ImNightmare wrote:
Again, Definition of slander : The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
And why would you say thanks? I wasn't talking to you. :/ LOL. oh....
On October 20 2012 12:45 Shival wrote:
Thanks for the definition, I'm not sure why you like to dig your own grave but.. thanks I guess.
On October 20 2012 12:42 ImNightmare wrote:
Definition of slander : The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
What is his reputation apart from constantly bashing people who thinks Jessica is in the wrong?
On October 20 2012 12:41 Shival wrote:
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It is, infact it's slander.
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It is, infact it's slander.
Definition of slander : The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
What is his reputation apart from constantly bashing people who thinks Jessica is in the wrong?
Thanks for the definition, I'm not sure why you like to dig your own grave but.. thanks I guess.
Again, Definition of slander : The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
And why would you say thanks? I wasn't talking to you. :/ LOL. oh....
Err, you're bolding spoken? Written word is slander aswell.
Is this written? Or typed? And btw, the definition is already there. If you think a dictionary is wrong, then laughing out loud because nowhere did it say a written word is slander.
Shiva used the wrong term, it's called libel.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/libel?s=t
Case in point: You accused me of being a smurf with absolutely no evidence with the clearly malicious purpose of discrediting me. You clearly stated that I was surfing to lend credence to my own arguments.
Do you deny this?
OKay just to humor you, lets just say that I am wrong, (i am 100% certain I am not), what are you going to do? Sue me? I have 1k in my bank. Will that settle the lawsuit?
That's an insanely immature response... I mean the fact the three of you are arguing semantics so hard, totally off topic is one thing, but to go "sue me" on a public discussion is asking for a ban.
Ahh...sucks... but I do stand on my ground, Iambac0re and 4thjaedongosl is the same person.
lol, why get into the trouble of using two accounts? I alone can do the job.
And also, he already apologized, why bother argue with that, you guys?
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