EPTNow though, it's pretty sad to see the state of Starcraft in comparison to other e-sport titles. I firmly believe that without drastic action, Starcraft will soon be a fringe title.
Destiny on where he thinks SC2 is heading. - Page 43
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Agnosthar
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Now though, it's pretty sad to see the state of Starcraft in comparison to other e-sport titles. I firmly believe that without drastic action, Starcraft will soon be a fringe title. | ||
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phodacbiet
United States1740 Posts
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FinalForm
United States450 Posts
No more terrans play the game anymore, and protoss and zerg are sick of playing each other | ||
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Hylirion
Netherlands968 Posts
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Rumpus
United States136 Posts
Look at D3, I mean granted the game completely sucked and pretty much still does. But it's seen drastic overhauling to quite a few different aspects of the game since beta and even 2 enormous patches beyond that. The games been out for 5 (close to a year including beta) months. Coming up to 3 years (including beta) Starcraft 2 has gotten absolutely nothing beyond horribly bare bone chat channels/windows from an "appease patch", and tons of misguided over the top attempts at "balancing." What about the long list of features we've asked for since day one? What about fixing glaring issues in design and game-play that everyone has talked about...since day one? Blizzard doesn't care for its community or E-Sports position. Blizzard doesn't care about this game. At all. | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
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jpak
United States5045 Posts
On October 18 2012 03:09 IPA wrote: So much doom and gloom in this thread. Gonna go back to laddering now. I love this game. <3 The main problem is that not enough people share your sentiment to make a sustainable scene around SC2. | ||
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tehemperorer
United States2183 Posts
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
On October 18 2012 03:06 phodacbiet wrote: Esport WILL succeed, just not with Starcraft, and blizzard has made damn sure of that with the way things are being run. This post just made me sad  | ||
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
but it really shouldn't. These problems have been there since the game came out and blizzard still hasn't addressed it. The only reason most people bought this game was because of it's name. Sometimes I wonder what those guys do over in California. | ||
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VanGarde
Sweden755 Posts
On October 18 2012 03:14 jpak wrote: The main problem is that not enough people share your sentiment to make a sustainable scene around SC2. Actually the main "problem" is that the vast majority of people who enjoy this game are like him playing the ladder or watching streams right now, which leaves it to the self proclaimed experts to assert things like "blizzard just don't care about this game" on a thread on TL. These threads are always a terrible source of actual representation of the community because only the whiners have the energy to read past the op. The fact that people honestly think that LoL is doing better in terms of esports because they have more free viewers on their way fewer streams just shows how far advanced peoples deduction skills are. | ||
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coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
The complaints about ladder anxiety are a question for e-sports and future growth. Are most gamers who watch e-sports supposed to also play the games? That seems to be the implication with games like LoL but that's not how it is in broader professional sports. A tiny minority of people who watch the Super Bowl or NBA Finals go out and play the sport themselves. The question there is should SC2 cater itself more to hardcore fans or to casual watchers? That's part of the experimentation that different tournaments should do. But is e-sports dying? No. At least, not yet. Not until significant tournaments start shutting down. | ||
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Twistacles
Canada1327 Posts
yes to all of this. In the first 2 years of SC, it felt really exciting. The huge tournaments, the MLGs, the Dreamhacks, the GSLs. Now? I barely play anymore. Terran has been nerfed to shit, there's too many tournaments for me to care about and quite frankly i'd rather 2v2 or play battlefield. | ||
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Smackzilla
United States539 Posts
I disagree that BW's success has anything to do with casual appeal. You are kidding yourself if you think that the answer to bringing in casuals lies within the history of BW. The Korean phenomenon wasn't based on appeal to casuals and SC2's e-sports scene was *incredibly* more successful than BW in the west. Sincerely, A terran killing time in dota2 until HOTS comes out. | ||
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Yosi
Poland49 Posts
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Schnullerbacke13
Germany1199 Posts
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Angel_
United States1617 Posts
Blizzard is much more involved than they were. The "blizzard is doing nothing and needs to change it's course" sounds like sky is falling nonsense. Blizzard IS getting more involved finally. But when asked for better chat options they responded with, "We think the chat client works fine for match making currently". It isn't a lack of involvement, it's not having a clue what the casual community wants or why they want it. What they genuinely need is for us to convey clearly, now that they're actually listening, what it is that casuals need and want. It isn't low level balance. It isn't unit changes really. It isn't different balance tweaked for different rankings or unranked games so the fear of laddering isn't there; you're still competing. They need chat support. They need better chat options, clan support, better map making support, better map searching support, a better less clunkly custom game finder, easier ways to make friends through the games. Giving a better tutorial on how the units work to people with no desire to compete IS NOT USEFUL. But neither is crying for 43 pages about how the sky is falling and that blizzard is doing nothing. | ||
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Penev
28477 Posts
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NexCa
Germany954 Posts
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M,J,Y
New Zealand16 Posts
Sc2 balance wise for WoL has improved allot but the basic fundamental issues are still there. This is a little off topic but relevant, look at Diablo 3 . I was a huge D2 nerd, played it to death and when i got D3 i was expecting allot, yeah its hard to live up to 10+ years of expectations but D3 launched with some colossal issues. Just basic game design gone horribly wrong.... Blizzard in the past has been known to take eon's to make games but when they come out they are stellar. The exception being World of Warcraft expansions / patches but the time frame for those are much smaller. After SC2 i started to question Blizzard and then D3 came out and my faith in Blizzard has really been shaken. | ||
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