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iNsaNe-
Profile Joined January 2005
Finland5201 Posts
October 13 2012 20:47 GMT
#221
On October 14 2012 02:32 Wicek wrote:


This is Maciej Krupowies, doing presentation about MoW. All is good, but this really put me off. Will do my best to translate:

"Why wont anyone else will repeat something like us? For one, we are trying to get a patent and enforce the prohibition of the use of certain names in the EU - namely a "training facility for video gamers". we want to be the only ones. we are also pioneers, and as i said there are other things like costs being higher inother countries."

I wonder how does that help esports. I'd love, if in some other country there would be a similar project to MoW. Hopefully they will not succed with their plans to ban that stuff.


I don't know anything about patent legislation in EU or anything, but as a layman can't see how that possibly could go through?
It takes a fool to remain sane.
InDesconrowl
Profile Joined April 2012
Togo311 Posts
October 13 2012 20:50 GMT
#222
On October 14 2012 05:13 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 03:08 Liquid`Ret wrote:
This drama is so unnessecary, the MoW house is a really good house for getting better at the game. Sure the food isnt GREAT, but it can be fixed. And almost every gamer I know eats almost exclusively crap anyways.


What a terrible argument. So if one wants to not be fat, he has to pay him self?

It should be the opposite way: Give great good to players so they can concetrate better.


If one wants to not be fat, all one has to do is eat less.
:tg: Ginyu Force :tg:
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
October 13 2012 20:57 GMT
#223
On October 14 2012 04:06 Alpino wrote:
Wtf with the pejorative "jews"? Disappointed in desrow and can't say about MoW because I don't have enough data, but decent meals(healthy) should be a priority, specially for gamers who spend most of the day on a chair.

PS: Morrow is a boss.

Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 22:01 pallad wrote:
More drama incomming , but who cares..?
In house full of dudes , there will be always fights its nature , you cant be liked by everyone , and like everyone , life


No it's not. We're not savages, we're civilised human beings.


Agree, you don't have to like the guy next to you but you can at least make it manageable.
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
Qntc.YuMe
Profile Joined January 2011
United States792 Posts
October 13 2012 21:01 GMT
#224
can someone tell me who is talking at wat times? I found it abit confusing with a bad audio O_O
MaestroSC
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2073 Posts
October 13 2012 21:01 GMT
#225
On October 14 2012 05:46 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 05:15 r.Evo wrote:
On October 14 2012 05:00 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
On October 14 2012 04:47 r.Evo wrote:
On October 14 2012 04:21 Jrocker152 wrote:
On October 14 2012 04:01 NoobSkills wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:53 Zennith wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:47 Zenbrez wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:43 .syd. wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:41 TheRabidDeer wrote:
[quote]
My point is that maybe all racist or bigoted remarks might be stereotyping, but not all stereotypes are racist or bigoted.


I would argue that the stereotype that jews are all greedy is pretty racist.

You know, Judaism is a religion, not a race..




... it is both.


Not really, even though people like to claim it is. An Arabic Jew is not the same as an European Jew. Being Jewish is a religious and cultural believe, but as far as a race is concerned there really isn't a Jewish race.

Then why do so many of these religious folk have recognizable facial features that let me pick them out in a room? Including the African Jews? Their skin color, hair etc differ but they still have that Jewish look...

Sorry, you just don't know any irreligious jews yet. And look up Einstein, if he was Jewish in the way you claim his statements about god would make no sense.

If you claim he wasn't Jewish a lot of people disagree, many who are historians.

Edit again: there are also Jewish people who are religious jews but not racial Jews- some Mexicans came one time and claimed to be Jewish, I was telling them "no way", but then I opened my mind and learned something new.
Edit 3: iPhone

The bolded comment above is much, much more antisemitic than what desrow said. Think about that for a second.


On October 14 2012 04:21 shockaslim wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:47 Zenbrez wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:43 .syd. wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:41 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:39 orBitual wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:00 TheRabidDeer wrote:
[quote]
Stereotypes are not what you think they are. If you see somebody that looks like a cowboy, you might call him a cowboy. That is a stereotype. Is it racist? No.


If you see somebody that looks like a faggot, you might call him a faggot. That is a stereotype. Is it bigotry? Yes.

My point is that maybe all racist or bigoted remarks might be stereotyping, but not all stereotypes are racist or bigoted.


I would argue that the stereotype that jews are all greedy is pretty racist.

You know, Judaism is a religion, not a race..


How can you be so ridiculous? Judaism is a religion. Being a Jew (as in descendant from Jerusalem) is a race. So yes, it IS racist.


Besides the fact that I doubt MoW)Boss is either a religious or a "racial" jew (which would make the statement antisemitic) the word "Jew" derives from the region Judea. That region doesn't exist anymore since about 2000 years, the modern equivalent is West Bank.

Calling Jews a race is as stupid as equivalent to calling every American European because hey, all their ancestors had to be European at one point. In fact, once again, the view that they're a race showcases anti-semitism by trying to put them into their own little group that has nothing to do with anyone else. That's how this whole mess started in the first place. When I see a German Jew and a French Jew talking I will most likely refer to them as a German and French dude talking. Not as two Jews talking.


tl;dr: There is a reason we have a specific word for "being against" Jews, it's called antisemitism. Not racism.


anti-semitism: "hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group."


That's the dictionary part. Here is what the encyclopedic explanation in your link says:
Hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious group or “race.”

In the 19th century violent discrimination intensified (see pogrom), and so-called “scientific racism” emerged, which based hostility to the Jews on their supposed biological characteristics and replaced religion as the primary basis for anti-Semitism. In the 20th century the economic and political dislocations caused by World War I intensified anti-Semitism, and racist anti-Semitism flourished in Nazi Germany.


Jews = race was the main argument of the Nazi propaganda because it's easier to sell. That does not mean that they as a group are a race from a biological point of view. The segregation of Jews as an ethnical group slowly stopped starting in the 14th/15th century, ever since the whole "Jews only marry among themselves" can't exactly be claimed anymore.

It literally is equivalent to e.g. whether you want to call Turkish immigrants in Germany (who are official members of the state) Turks or Germans. Most people would agree that starting with the 2nd or 3rd generation the people are more part of their "new" country.

I can point out a black or an asian person in a group of people, I can't point out the Jews. That's the difference.


You honestly don't know what you're talking about. I don't want to get off topic but it seriously kills me inside every time I see someone on TL trying to make these completely uninformed arguments. Go learn a few things about genetics and then form an educated opinion. There are genetic diseases associated ONLY with certain lineages of Jewry - meaning they are a distinct race.

On topic - I've become a huge MorroW fan, lost a lot of respect for Desrow and my opinion of MoW hasn't changed. I never bought into their apology about the Fuzer incident in the first place..


when did any1 gain respect for Desrow? I have followed scene since BW and sc2beta... when did this guy ever do anything to gain respect or fans?
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
October 13 2012 21:04 GMT
#226
On October 14 2012 06:01 MaestroSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 05:46 SupLilSon wrote:
On October 14 2012 05:15 r.Evo wrote:
On October 14 2012 05:00 M.R. McThundercrotch wrote:
On October 14 2012 04:47 r.Evo wrote:
On October 14 2012 04:21 Jrocker152 wrote:
On October 14 2012 04:01 NoobSkills wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:53 Zennith wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:47 Zenbrez wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:43 .syd. wrote:
[quote]

I would argue that the stereotype that jews are all greedy is pretty racist.

You know, Judaism is a religion, not a race..




... it is both.


Not really, even though people like to claim it is. An Arabic Jew is not the same as an European Jew. Being Jewish is a religious and cultural believe, but as far as a race is concerned there really isn't a Jewish race.

Then why do so many of these religious folk have recognizable facial features that let me pick them out in a room? Including the African Jews? Their skin color, hair etc differ but they still have that Jewish look...

Sorry, you just don't know any irreligious jews yet. And look up Einstein, if he was Jewish in the way you claim his statements about god would make no sense.

If you claim he wasn't Jewish a lot of people disagree, many who are historians.

Edit again: there are also Jewish people who are religious jews but not racial Jews- some Mexicans came one time and claimed to be Jewish, I was telling them "no way", but then I opened my mind and learned something new.
Edit 3: iPhone

The bolded comment above is much, much more antisemitic than what desrow said. Think about that for a second.


On October 14 2012 04:21 shockaslim wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:47 Zenbrez wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:43 .syd. wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:41 TheRabidDeer wrote:
On October 14 2012 03:39 orBitual wrote:
[quote]

If you see somebody that looks like a faggot, you might call him a faggot. That is a stereotype. Is it bigotry? Yes.

My point is that maybe all racist or bigoted remarks might be stereotyping, but not all stereotypes are racist or bigoted.


I would argue that the stereotype that jews are all greedy is pretty racist.

You know, Judaism is a religion, not a race..


How can you be so ridiculous? Judaism is a religion. Being a Jew (as in descendant from Jerusalem) is a race. So yes, it IS racist.


Besides the fact that I doubt MoW)Boss is either a religious or a "racial" jew (which would make the statement antisemitic) the word "Jew" derives from the region Judea. That region doesn't exist anymore since about 2000 years, the modern equivalent is West Bank.

Calling Jews a race is as stupid as equivalent to calling every American European because hey, all their ancestors had to be European at one point. In fact, once again, the view that they're a race showcases anti-semitism by trying to put them into their own little group that has nothing to do with anyone else. That's how this whole mess started in the first place. When I see a German Jew and a French Jew talking I will most likely refer to them as a German and French dude talking. Not as two Jews talking.


tl;dr: There is a reason we have a specific word for "being against" Jews, it's called antisemitism. Not racism.


anti-semitism: "hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group."


That's the dictionary part. Here is what the encyclopedic explanation in your link says:
Hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious group or “race.”

In the 19th century violent discrimination intensified (see pogrom), and so-called “scientific racism” emerged, which based hostility to the Jews on their supposed biological characteristics and replaced religion as the primary basis for anti-Semitism. In the 20th century the economic and political dislocations caused by World War I intensified anti-Semitism, and racist anti-Semitism flourished in Nazi Germany.


Jews = race was the main argument of the Nazi propaganda because it's easier to sell. That does not mean that they as a group are a race from a biological point of view. The segregation of Jews as an ethnical group slowly stopped starting in the 14th/15th century, ever since the whole "Jews only marry among themselves" can't exactly be claimed anymore.

It literally is equivalent to e.g. whether you want to call Turkish immigrants in Germany (who are official members of the state) Turks or Germans. Most people would agree that starting with the 2nd or 3rd generation the people are more part of their "new" country.

I can point out a black or an asian person in a group of people, I can't point out the Jews. That's the difference.


You honestly don't know what you're talking about. I don't want to get off topic but it seriously kills me inside every time I see someone on TL trying to make these completely uninformed arguments. Go learn a few things about genetics and then form an educated opinion. There are genetic diseases associated ONLY with certain lineages of Jewry - meaning they are a distinct race.

On topic - I've become a huge MorroW fan, lost a lot of respect for Desrow and my opinion of MoW hasn't changed. I never bought into their apology about the Fuzer incident in the first place..


when did any1 gain respect for Desrow? I have followed scene since BW and sc2beta... when did this guy ever do anything to gain respect or fans?


Well I never had a reason to dislike him and fat people are usually jolly so I just assumed he was a nice guy. I had a baseline level of respect for him. I've never watched his stream or seen him in a tournament though.
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
October 13 2012 21:38 GMT
#227
On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB.


This is a top 10 low-point post on TL for me. And that's saying something.

Thanks for clearing up the motivation and acceptability of calling someone an offensive, reprehensible word. The part of speech call out was especially classy.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
BlueLanterna
Profile Joined April 2011
291 Posts
October 13 2012 21:44 GMT
#228
Wow, Desrow gets mad over Lastshadow ripping on him for being fat, yet he starts in with the "fucking jew" material.

Suck it Desrow, you hypocritical bigot.
TeslasPigeon
Profile Joined March 2012
464 Posts
October 13 2012 21:46 GMT
#229
On October 14 2012 06:38 IPA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB.


This is a top 10 low-point post on TL for me. And that's saying something.

Thanks for clearing up the motivation and acceptability of calling someone an offensive, reprehensible word. The part of speech call out was especially classy.


You get use to it, this place is no different compared to reddit in regards to racism and general misogyny.
whatwhatanut
Profile Joined December 2010
United States195 Posts
October 13 2012 21:52 GMT
#230
On October 14 2012 06:46 TeslasPigeon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 06:38 IPA wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB.


This is a top 10 low-point post on TL for me. And that's saying something.

Thanks for clearing up the motivation and acceptability of calling someone an offensive, reprehensible word. The part of speech call out was especially classy.


You get use to it, this place is no different compared to reddit in regards to racism and general misogyny.


Jew is not a racial slur. It's an ethnic term. Also it is a contextual term. Clearly Desrow was being offensive but to call him racist for using a phrase many people use on a daily basis out of anger is just terribly incorrect.
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 21:57:43
October 13 2012 21:55 GMT
#231
On October 14 2012 06:52 whatwhatanut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 06:46 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:38 IPA wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB.


This is a top 10 low-point post on TL for me. And that's saying something.

Thanks for clearing up the motivation and acceptability of calling someone an offensive, reprehensible word. The part of speech call out was especially classy.


You get use to it, this place is no different compared to reddit in regards to racism and general misogyny.


Jew is not a racial slur. It's an ethnic term. Also it is a contextual term. Clearly Desrow was being offensive but to call him racist for using a phrase many people use on a daily basis out of anger is just terribly incorrect.


I think TL is worse than Reddit in terms of racism lol. DesRow was essentially implying that Jews are greedy and that trying to save money at the expense of the players is something a Jew would do. On what level is that not racist?
BlueLanterna
Profile Joined April 2011
291 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 22:04:32
October 13 2012 22:02 GMT
#232
On October 14 2012 06:52 whatwhatanut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 06:46 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:38 IPA wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB.


This is a top 10 low-point post on TL for me. And that's saying something.

Thanks for clearing up the motivation and acceptability of calling someone an offensive, reprehensible word. The part of speech call out was especially classy.


You get use to it, this place is no different compared to reddit in regards to racism and general misogyny.


Jew is not a racial slur. It's an ethnic term. Also it is a contextual term. Clearly Desrow was being offensive but to call him racist for using a phrase many people use on a daily basis out of anger is just terribly incorrect.


Kinda sad that the people you choose to associate with use someone's religion as a way to stereotype them negatively.

edit: Or that you're under the extremely wrong impression from...I don't know where...that people use the term "jew" a lot to describe greedy people.

On October 14 2012 06:55 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 06:52 whatwhatanut wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:46 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:38 IPA wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB.


This is a top 10 low-point post on TL for me. And that's saying something.

Thanks for clearing up the motivation and acceptability of calling someone an offensive, reprehensible word. The part of speech call out was especially classy.


You get use to it, this place is no different compared to reddit in regards to racism and general misogyny.


Jew is not a racial slur. It's an ethnic term. Also it is a contextual term. Clearly Desrow was being offensive but to call him racist for using a phrase many people use on a daily basis out of anger is just terribly incorrect.


I think TL is worse than Reddit in terms of racism lol. DesRow was essentially implying that Jews are greedy and that trying to save money at the expense of the players is something a Jew would do. On what level is that not racist?


It's not racist because "jews" are not a race, I can't believe this is a difficult definition to apply for some people.
shid0x
Profile Joined July 2012
Korea (South)5014 Posts
October 13 2012 22:09 GMT
#233
MoW isn't professional at all...That's painful to hear...
I knew it since the first time i heard of it...its just fishy as hell.

RIP MKP
InDesconrowl
Profile Joined April 2012
Togo311 Posts
October 13 2012 22:11 GMT
#234
On October 14 2012 06:38 IPA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB.


This is a top 10 low-point post on TL for me. And that's saying something.

Thanks for clearing up the motivation and acceptability of calling someone an offensive, reprehensible word. The part of speech call out was especially classy.


RabidDeer is a destiny fanboy. They defend anyone for any hate speech.
:tg: Ginyu Force :tg:
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
October 13 2012 22:18 GMT
#235
On October 14 2012 07:02 BlueLanterna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 06:52 whatwhatanut wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:46 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:38 IPA wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB.


This is a top 10 low-point post on TL for me. And that's saying something.

Thanks for clearing up the motivation and acceptability of calling someone an offensive, reprehensible word. The part of speech call out was especially classy.


You get use to it, this place is no different compared to reddit in regards to racism and general misogyny.


Jew is not a racial slur. It's an ethnic term. Also it is a contextual term. Clearly Desrow was being offensive but to call him racist for using a phrase many people use on a daily basis out of anger is just terribly incorrect.


Kinda sad that the people you choose to associate with use someone's religion as a way to stereotype them negatively.

edit: Or that you're under the extremely wrong impression from...I don't know where...that people use the term "jew" a lot to describe greedy people.

Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 06:55 SupLilSon wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:52 whatwhatanut wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:46 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:38 IPA wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB.


This is a top 10 low-point post on TL for me. And that's saying something.

Thanks for clearing up the motivation and acceptability of calling someone an offensive, reprehensible word. The part of speech call out was especially classy.


You get use to it, this place is no different compared to reddit in regards to racism and general misogyny.


Jew is not a racial slur. It's an ethnic term. Also it is a contextual term. Clearly Desrow was being offensive but to call him racist for using a phrase many people use on a daily basis out of anger is just terribly incorrect.


I think TL is worse than Reddit in terms of racism lol. DesRow was essentially implying that Jews are greedy and that trying to save money at the expense of the players is something a Jew would do. On what level is that not racist?


It's not racist because "jews" are not a race, I can't believe this is a difficult definition to apply for some people.


It is actually a race. I can't believe people are still spouting this BS despite having no knowledge of genetics or how race is categorized. TL is truly worse than Reddit in terms of ignorance towards racism.
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
October 13 2012 22:18 GMT
#236
Who gives a fuck if he called someone a jew? That's not the point. He was pissed and was just saying the first insult that came to mind. Everyone does that when they are super angry.

Talk about the god damn topic for fucks sake. Jesus Christ, TL is starting to become Reddit.
skatblast
Profile Joined September 2011
United States784 Posts
October 13 2012 22:18 GMT
#237
here we go again
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
October 13 2012 22:19 GMT
#238
On October 14 2012 07:02 BlueLanterna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2012 06:52 whatwhatanut wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:46 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:38 IPA wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB.


This is a top 10 low-point post on TL for me. And that's saying something.

Thanks for clearing up the motivation and acceptability of calling someone an offensive, reprehensible word. The part of speech call out was especially classy.


You get use to it, this place is no different compared to reddit in regards to racism and general misogyny.


Jew is not a racial slur. It's an ethnic term. Also it is a contextual term. Clearly Desrow was being offensive but to call him racist for using a phrase many people use on a daily basis out of anger is just terribly incorrect.


Kinda sad that the people you choose to associate with use someone's religion as a way to stereotype them negatively.

edit: Or that you're under the extremely wrong impression from...I don't know where...that people use the term "jew" a lot to describe greedy people.

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On October 14 2012 06:55 SupLilSon wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:52 whatwhatanut wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:46 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:38 IPA wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB.


This is a top 10 low-point post on TL for me. And that's saying something.

Thanks for clearing up the motivation and acceptability of calling someone an offensive, reprehensible word. The part of speech call out was especially classy.


You get use to it, this place is no different compared to reddit in regards to racism and general misogyny.


Jew is not a racial slur. It's an ethnic term. Also it is a contextual term. Clearly Desrow was being offensive but to call him racist for using a phrase many people use on a daily basis out of anger is just terribly incorrect.


I think TL is worse than Reddit in terms of racism lol. DesRow was essentially implying that Jews are greedy and that trying to save money at the expense of the players is something a Jew would do. On what level is that not racist?


It's not racist because "jews" are not a race, I can't believe this is a difficult definition to apply for some people.


People like you are playing the semantics game at every freaking turn. Either way you play the horn, what DesRow said was offensive, and thats all people are saying.
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On October 14 2012 07:18 SupLilSon wrote:
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On October 14 2012 07:02 BlueLanterna wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:52 whatwhatanut wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:46 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:38 IPA wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB.


This is a top 10 low-point post on TL for me. And that's saying something.

Thanks for clearing up the motivation and acceptability of calling someone an offensive, reprehensible word. The part of speech call out was especially classy.


You get use to it, this place is no different compared to reddit in regards to racism and general misogyny.


Jew is not a racial slur. It's an ethnic term. Also it is a contextual term. Clearly Desrow was being offensive but to call him racist for using a phrase many people use on a daily basis out of anger is just terribly incorrect.


Kinda sad that the people you choose to associate with use someone's religion as a way to stereotype them negatively.

edit: Or that you're under the extremely wrong impression from...I don't know where...that people use the term "jew" a lot to describe greedy people.

On October 14 2012 06:55 SupLilSon wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:52 whatwhatanut wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:46 TeslasPigeon wrote:
On October 14 2012 06:38 IPA wrote:
On October 14 2012 02:43 TheRabidDeer wrote:
Calling somebody a jew due to a perceived greed is not anti-semitism, it is stereotyping. Had the person he was speaking to actually been a jew or if desrow actually has something against jews, maybe different. But as it stands, there is no grounds to call him an anti-semite based on the situation we are presented. Calling somebody a jew is a VERB.


This is a top 10 low-point post on TL for me. And that's saying something.

Thanks for clearing up the motivation and acceptability of calling someone an offensive, reprehensible word. The part of speech call out was especially classy.


You get use to it, this place is no different compared to reddit in regards to racism and general misogyny.


Jew is not a racial slur. It's an ethnic term. Also it is a contextual term. Clearly Desrow was being offensive but to call him racist for using a phrase many people use on a daily basis out of anger is just terribly incorrect.


I think TL is worse than Reddit in terms of racism lol. DesRow was essentially implying that Jews are greedy and that trying to save money at the expense of the players is something a Jew would do. On what level is that not racist?


It's not racist because "jews" are not a race, I can't believe this is a difficult definition to apply for some people.


It is actually a race. I can't believe people are still spouting this BS despite having no knowledge of genetics or how race is categorized. TL is truly worse than Reddit in terms of ignorance towards racism.


Sorry how is a religion a race? Id love to hear it
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