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Advocado
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Denmark994 Posts
October 10 2012 05:57 GMT
#141
Looks legit. Lmao.
http://www.twitch.tv/advocadosc2
LeapofFaith
Profile Joined November 2011
United States446 Posts
October 10 2012 06:03 GMT
#142
What has happened before that has made Eclypsia look shady?
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
October 10 2012 06:06 GMT
#143
On October 10 2012 15:03 LeapofFaith wrote:
What has happened before that has made Eclypsia look shady?


Them not paying players the promised salary, not keeping in contact with the players, etc.
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Caihead
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada8550 Posts
October 10 2012 06:07 GMT
#144
On October 10 2012 14:52 Whitewing wrote:
I'm not sure who this hurts or why this is a big deal, but at the same time, it just feels.... slimy.


Internet Advert revenue are essentially a commons, lots of people use streams and google adds / banners to make a living, adding more for yourself doesn't seem to detract from the world at all. But the venue just loses legitimacy and advertisers will eventually catch on to shit like this, only reason why advertisers don't get up in arms about it is because it's extremely difficult to measure the effectiveness of advertising. It also wastes bandwidth / upkeep / electricity if you care about that sort of a thing.
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JackReacher
Profile Joined September 2012
United States197 Posts
October 10 2012 06:26 GMT
#145
Eclypsia is as shady as their name would suggest ^^
Polar_Nada
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1548 Posts
October 10 2012 06:30 GMT
#146
what. i didnt even know that is possible haha.
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wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
October 10 2012 06:35 GMT
#147
On October 10 2012 13:44 Cascade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 13:32 wongfeihung wrote:
On October 10 2012 12:49 Plansix wrote:
On October 10 2012 12:44 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On October 10 2012 12:15 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 10 2012 12:05 FXOBoSs wrote:
I strongly doubt eclypsia are the only ones doing this... To the bat mobile!

wait, you mean like this?
http://i.imgur.com/OCjDl.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/YEWJW.png

what are those screenshots of though? "viewer list"? most people watching are not logged in. maybe it's identifying people who don't log in.

i feel like the image is implying that Riot created a lot of twitch.tv accounts and logs them all in and has them watch LoL streams but that is unnecessary to boost viewer counts. so im not sure what im looking at there


Couldn't they just be viewers logged in through the LoL client? I feel that is far more likely that Riot juicing the numbers. That sounds like a terrible plan that would ruin their relationship with twitch and anyone selling ads during their events. It just sounds way to stupid for them to have all the "fake users" logged into with names like A7584021.

Apparently, these viewers are real Justin/Twitch accounts. I have no idea why a game client would need to log into a remote Twitch.tv account in order to view a stream. Or why a viewer who isn't logged in would have to be listed as a random Twitch account. Then again, I know next to nothing about all that computer science stuff. Maybe somebody else can elaborate.

http://www.twitch.tv/abc00124
http://www.justin.tv/abc10227
http://www.twitch.tv/abc11200
http://www.twitch.tv/abc13579012
http://www.twitch.tv/zxc950340
http://www.twitch.tv/zxc97369
http://www.twitch.tv/zxc950340

I'm just guessing here, but maybe the game client want some features like follow, history, upload your own VODs and so on, that is easiest for them to do through creating a twitch account that can be accessed through the game client. When LOL player "ImSoPr0" first time sees a stream through the client and automatically get an account created, maybe the name "ImSoPr0" is already used on twitch though, so the game client just makes up a new name, like abc239865, and then internally links that the LOL player ImSoPr0 has that twitch account.

Result would then be that people watching (or having stream on at least..) through their LOL client show up as abc34845, and these accounts are still "legit" in the sense that they actually belong to a person.

But again, just guessing. If these accounts are just people watching through the client, I don't think it's really fair to compare lols "inflated" stream views with the sudden x11000 viewers here though.

Ahhhh, ok. That would make sense. I don't play League of Legends, so I have no idea. Thanks for the insight.

On October 10 2012 14:25 FXOBoSs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 14:22 XERtirips wrote:
LOL

I go onto the les site and I find a girl being raped by a dog :/

ok back on topic.

This is stupid. EC should stop being so wanting and just deal with what is reality >.<


Its based on your search cookies

Hahaha! Nice one, BoSs.
DomiNater
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States527 Posts
October 10 2012 06:37 GMT
#148
On October 10 2012 14:25 FXOBoSs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 14:22 XERtirips wrote:
LOL

I go onto the les site and I find a girl being raped by a dog :/

ok back on topic.

This is stupid. EC should stop being so wanting and just deal with what is reality >.<


Its based on your search cookies


Damn near spit my beer out on my laptop!

What you been lookin' at XERtirips? LOL

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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
October 10 2012 06:39 GMT
#149
wow so shady.
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tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
October 10 2012 06:41 GMT
#150
I'm surprised so many people are saying there's nothing wrong with this- it totally devalues advertising on streams if stream viewing numbers become meaningless.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 10 2012 06:43 GMT
#151
Honestly this is more sad than anything else
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AKnopf
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany259 Posts
October 10 2012 06:51 GMT
#152
Its like selling a washing machine (opening up stream) when you just want to buy that magazine abo (view the website). Better read the fine print (source code). :/
What a shady business. In real life, they would need to get in front of a court...
The world - its a funny place
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
October 10 2012 06:54 GMT
#153
could this possibly get any more stupid?
WetSocks
Profile Joined June 2012
United States953 Posts
October 10 2012 06:55 GMT
#154
that was sad. really sad. Welmu needs a better team.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 10 2012 07:05 GMT
#155
Hmmmm so basically what the numbers say is that without zombies, no one gives a shit about Eclypsia?
S:klogW
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria657 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 07:09:34
October 10 2012 07:08 GMT
#156
As I sit here watch... popcorn time.

But on topic, as everyone says, it could be zombies? Are the stats verified?
E = 1.89 eV = 3.03 x 10^(-19) J
Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
October 10 2012 07:12 GMT
#157
sigh. so bad T_T
Spidinko
Profile Joined May 2010
Slovakia1174 Posts
October 10 2012 07:12 GMT
#158
On October 10 2012 14:25 FXOBoSs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 14:22 XERtirips wrote:
LOL

I go onto the les site and I find a girl being raped by a dog :/

ok back on topic.

This is stupid. EC should stop being so wanting and just deal with what is reality >.<


Its based on your search cookies

Lmao. Will people get pitchforks now? Or do they care only if it's a pro gamer.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
October 10 2012 07:13 GMT
#159
On October 10 2012 15:35 wongfeihung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 13:44 Cascade wrote:
On October 10 2012 13:32 wongfeihung wrote:
On October 10 2012 12:49 Plansix wrote:
On October 10 2012 12:44 Liquid`NonY wrote:
On October 10 2012 12:15 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 10 2012 12:05 FXOBoSs wrote:
I strongly doubt eclypsia are the only ones doing this... To the bat mobile!

wait, you mean like this?
http://i.imgur.com/OCjDl.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/YEWJW.png

what are those screenshots of though? "viewer list"? most people watching are not logged in. maybe it's identifying people who don't log in.

i feel like the image is implying that Riot created a lot of twitch.tv accounts and logs them all in and has them watch LoL streams but that is unnecessary to boost viewer counts. so im not sure what im looking at there


Couldn't they just be viewers logged in through the LoL client? I feel that is far more likely that Riot juicing the numbers. That sounds like a terrible plan that would ruin their relationship with twitch and anyone selling ads during their events. It just sounds way to stupid for them to have all the "fake users" logged into with names like A7584021.

Apparently, these viewers are real Justin/Twitch accounts. I have no idea why a game client would need to log into a remote Twitch.tv account in order to view a stream. Or why a viewer who isn't logged in would have to be listed as a random Twitch account. Then again, I know next to nothing about all that computer science stuff. Maybe somebody else can elaborate.

http://www.twitch.tv/abc00124
http://www.justin.tv/abc10227
http://www.twitch.tv/abc11200
http://www.twitch.tv/abc13579012
http://www.twitch.tv/zxc950340
http://www.twitch.tv/zxc97369
http://www.twitch.tv/zxc950340

I'm just guessing here, but maybe the game client want some features like follow, history, upload your own VODs and so on, that is easiest for them to do through creating a twitch account that can be accessed through the game client. When LOL player "ImSoPr0" first time sees a stream through the client and automatically get an account created, maybe the name "ImSoPr0" is already used on twitch though, so the game client just makes up a new name, like abc239865, and then internally links that the LOL player ImSoPr0 has that twitch account.

Result would then be that people watching (or having stream on at least..) through their LOL client show up as abc34845, and these accounts are still "legit" in the sense that they actually belong to a person.

But again, just guessing. If these accounts are just people watching through the client, I don't think it's really fair to compare lols "inflated" stream views with the sudden x11000 viewers here though.

Ahhhh, ok. That would make sense. I don't play League of Legends, so I have no idea. Thanks for the insight.

I don't play lol either. Again, I'm only guessing around. My only information is that, if I've understood correctly, there is some ingame thing in lol that allows people to watch pro stream. Someone actually playing the game could confirm, but I guess it isn't really important, so nevermind.

Let's make fun of that chart instead.

Did they get a good looking girl on the team and she promised to undress at one million viewer?
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 10 2012 07:23 GMT
#160
On October 10 2012 15:26 JackReacher wrote:
Eclypsia is as shady as their name would suggest ^^


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