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Eclypsia cheating on stream audience - Page 7
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BadAssJ
United States136 Posts
Never thought of them as a serious team and am not going to start anytime soon. | ||
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plasmidghost
Belgium16168 Posts
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wongfeihung
United States763 Posts
On October 10 2012 12:49 Plansix wrote: Couldn't they just be viewers logged in through the LoL client? I feel that is far more likely that Riot juicing the numbers. That sounds like a terrible plan that would ruin their relationship with twitch and anyone selling ads during their events. It just sounds way to stupid for them to have all the "fake users" logged into with names like A7584021. Apparently, these viewers are real Justin/Twitch accounts. I have no idea why a game client would need to log into a remote Twitch.tv account in order to view a stream. Or why a viewer who isn't logged in would have to be listed as a random Twitch account. Then again, I know next to nothing about all that computer science stuff. Maybe somebody else can elaborate. http://www.twitch.tv/abc00124 http://www.justin.tv/abc10227 http://www.twitch.tv/abc11200 http://www.twitch.tv/abc13579012 http://www.twitch.tv/zxc950340 http://www.twitch.tv/zxc97369 http://www.twitch.tv/zxc950340 | ||
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10340 Posts
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Makelius
76 Posts
On October 10 2012 10:49 Cascade wrote: Hmm, I guess the real damage this does is that it devalues the worth of stream advertisement. If this becomes (is?) standard, advertisers know that 99.9% of their advertisements will be on a hidden muted stream, which will devalue a broadcasted advertisement a lot. So "legit" streamers trying to get stream money through real viewers will get a lot less money from smaller money per advertisement broadcasted. So hurting E-SPORTs all in all I guess.  Also, wasn't virus finnish? Virus was French but just happened to have a lot of finnish players in their roster. | ||
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lisward
Singapore959 Posts
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On October 10 2012 13:32 wongfeihung wrote: Apparently, these viewers are real Justin/Twitch accounts. I have no idea why a game client would need to log into a remote Twitch.tv account in order to view a stream. Or why a viewer who isn't logged in would have to be listed as a random Twitch account. Then again, I know next to nothing about all that computer science stuff. Maybe somebody else can elaborate. http://www.twitch.tv/abc00124 http://www.justin.tv/abc10227 http://www.twitch.tv/abc11200 http://www.twitch.tv/abc13579012 http://www.twitch.tv/zxc950340 http://www.twitch.tv/zxc97369 http://www.twitch.tv/zxc950340 I'm just guessing here, but maybe the game client want some features like follow, history, upload your own VODs and so on, that is easiest for them to do through creating a twitch account that can be accessed through the game client. When LOL player "ImSoPr0" first time sees a stream through the client and automatically get an account created, maybe the name "ImSoPr0" is already used on twitch though, so the game client just makes up a new name, like abc239865, and then internally links that the LOL player ImSoPr0 has that twitch account. Result would then be that people watching (or having stream on at least..) through their LOL client show up as abc34845, and these accounts are still "legit" in the sense that they actually belong to a person. But again, just guessing. If these accounts are just people watching through the client, I don't think it's really fair to compare lols "inflated" stream views with the sudden x11000 viewers here though. | ||
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ref4
2933 Posts
On October 10 2012 13:37 MountainDewJunkie wrote: The only time I ever hear about this team is when they are fucking up. It's actually all they can do to get any attention whatsoever. So perhaps... mission accomplished? "no such thing as bad publicity" or something along those lines | ||
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lisward
Singapore959 Posts
On October 10 2012 13:30 plasmidghost wrote: This did not surprise me in the least. Makes me think Eclypsia is a worse version of Sixjax, although I did never get all the details regarding the last few months of Sixjax's existence, so, maybe not. Six jax cheated people, how? | ||
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Catatonic
United States699 Posts
On October 10 2012 11:10 LuckoftheIrish wrote: To play devil's advocate a bit, so what? Who really ends up getting hurt? The people who are trying to make a living or some source of income off it and they certainly don't deserve that. | ||
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
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TBone-
United States2309 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
On October 10 2012 13:55 JoeSchmoe wrote: so how exactly are they "cheating"? They are faking stream views to get ad money. It's the same as click fraud for banner ads. It's also illegal IIRC. | ||
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TapetalKarma
United States127 Posts
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XERtirips
United States123 Posts
I go onto the les site and I find a girl being raped by a dog :/ ok back on topic. This is stupid. EC should stop being so wanting and just deal with what is reality >.< | ||
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FXOBoSs
337 Posts
On October 10 2012 14:22 XERtirips wrote: LOL I go onto the les site and I find a girl being raped by a dog :/ ok back on topic. This is stupid. EC should stop being so wanting and just deal with what is reality >.< Its based on your search cookies  | ||
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imMUTAble787
United States680 Posts
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Zerg.Zilla
Hungary5029 Posts
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Thylacine
Sweden882 Posts
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
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