EPTIt's not like they played a role in the actual project or production, right?
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Popkiller
3415 Posts
It's not like they played a role in the actual project or production, right? | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On July 30 2014 06:43 Popkiller wrote: I didn't follow this when it was happening, so I have a question... how involved were Tastosis in this project, aside from being the subjects? It's not like they played a role in the actual project or production, right? They traveled together to " film " at events iirc | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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Paragleiber
413 Posts
On July 30 2014 06:45 ZenithM wrote: I don't even know anymore if I pledged for that. How would I go about knowing if I did or not? If you still know your Kickstarter account details you can see it here after you login: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1751892223/the-sons-of-starcraft | ||
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Popkiller
3415 Posts
On July 30 2014 06:45 Dodgin wrote: They traveled together to " film " at events iirc right, but so would any documentary subject. I dunno, I see a lot of anger targeted towards Tastosis, but it seems strange to blame the subject of a documentary for the documentary's failure. It's all on the filmmaker. But, maybe they were more involved than I realize. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On July 30 2014 07:04 Popkiller wrote: right, but so would any documentary subject. I dunno, I see a lot of anger targeted towards Tastosis, but it seems strange to blame the subject of a documentary for the documentary's failure. It's all on the filmmaker. But, maybe they were more involved than I realize. They did advertise the fundraiser for the documentary, and obviously they were very supportive of it, since they were the subjects. AFAIK it was a friend of theirs who made the documentary. But yeah, in the end, that guy is to blame, not them. | ||
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Bashnek
Australia895 Posts
On July 30 2014 06:43 Popkiller wrote: I didn't follow this when it was happening, so I have a question... how involved were Tastosis in this project, aside from being the subjects? It's not like they played a role in the actual project or production, right? They endorsed it a bunch, but besides being filmed a lot i dont think they were actually involved in production. Still no poster  | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On July 30 2014 07:05 Conti wrote: They did advertise the fundraiser for the documentary, and obviously they were very supportive of it, since they were the subjects. AFAIK it was a friend of theirs who made the documentary. But yeah, in the end, that guy is to blame, not them. Yes, the Kickstarter itself trumps the guy's connection to Tasteless as the reason he would be able to make a better documentary than anyone else. | ||
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stFz
Netherlands76 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13431 Posts
On July 30 2014 07:07 Bashnek wrote: They endorsed it a bunch, but besides being filmed a lot i dont think they were actually involved in production. Still no poster You will likely never get it. The project bit off more than it could chew. | ||
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TigerKarl
1757 Posts
But since Artosis sold out to the money laundering guys of Sapinda and the new azubu, you know that the guy cares more about money than integrity. It's ok though, he's got family and kid, no future outside of gaming. User was temp banned for this post. i was bullshit banned for this post. That doesn't make it less true. You have been temp banned for 1 week by zatic. Reason: Yeah. No. That "reason" shows a lot of disrespect and you should be the one being banned. | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
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Glorfindel!
Sweden1815 Posts
People donate money for this documentary, The movie maker spends them mostly on things for himself instead of making a good documentary, Artosis and Tasteless does nothing to ensure people gets their promised kept? Is this.. Close to what happend or am I understanding wrong? | ||
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meshfusion
Russian Federation232 Posts
On July 31 2014 06:22 Glorfindel! wrote: I never caught up on all the drama regarding this, long story fast if I get this right: People donate movie for this documentary, The movie maker spends them mostly on things for himself instead of making a good documentary, Artosis and Tasteless does nothing to ensure people gets their promised kept? Is this.. Close to what happend or am I understanding wrong? you are correct | ||
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Conti
Germany2516 Posts
On July 31 2014 06:22 Glorfindel! wrote: I never caught up on all the drama regarding this, long story fast if I get this right: People donate money for this documentary, The movie maker spends them mostly on things for himself instead of making a good documentary, Artosis and Tasteless does nothing to ensure people gets their promised kept? Is this.. Close to what happend or am I understanding wrong? The guy spending most of the money for himself is a rumor. There's no way to say what he spent his money on. But since the documentary was delayed multiple times, and in the end simply wasn't very good (to put it mildly), people are claiming that he must have spent the money for something else. And yes, some of the promises that were made were broken. | ||
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Glorfindel!
Sweden1815 Posts
On July 31 2014 06:31 Conti wrote: The guy spending most of the money for himself is a rumor. There's no way to say what he spent his money on. But since the documentary was delayed multiple times, and in the end simply wasn't very good (to put it mildly), people are claiming that he must have spent the money for something else. And yes, some of the promises that were made were broken. I see. For me it feels like... If you are collecting other peoples money on a fund raiser then it is just fair enough to declare where the money is spent? :S Should be a requirment or something like that. Just common sence that if I ask for money for something I also declare how I have spent it  | ||
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UmberBane
Germany5450 Posts
For example: In the kickstarter, the first point under "Where is My Money Going?" states "Hiring professional post production, sound, graphic design people", which clearly didn't happen. | ||
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Wuster
1974 Posts
On July 31 2014 06:39 UmberBane wrote: Yup, we can't definitively say where the money ended up in the end, but we can be pretty sure that it didn't all end up in the documentary. For example: In the kickstarter, the first point under "Where is My Money Going?" states "Hiring professional post production, sound, graphic design people", which clearly didn't happen. Technically Tumba, *almost* committed to providing a budget breakdown when he did that interview with Richard Lewis regarding: where the hell is Sons of Starcraft Tumba (Jeff Alejos' agent) On the subject of being more candid about where the money has been spent, Sherman seemed receptive. "“Publishing a budget is not really uncommon right, we see what a conventional movie costs all the time, then it's used as a barometer for success. In this case though it's more for over all accountability. The norm is to just see what a movie costs total. But I think with kickstarter projects it would be good if a more detailed budget was published to show where money goes. Maybe not to the extent of a line item budget break down, but at least major categories such as travel, equipment, and things of that nature. A lot of it comes down to trust and reputation too. I personally invested into Fog of War an indie movie by Les Norris, and I never even went to the set, because I knew he would put 1000% into the project. But when you invest into someone you don't know without a track record it's nice to know where your money went. So with crowd funded projects especially accountability is very important.”" Full Interview But considering he was so aggressively saying that SoS was coming out during Blizzcon (which it didn't), I wouldn't hold your breath that they'll practice what they preach and publish a budget... | ||
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12397 Posts
On July 31 2014 06:22 Glorfindel! wrote: I never caught up on all the drama regarding this, long story fast if I get this right: People donate money for this documentary, The movie maker spends them mostly on things for himself instead of making a good documentary, Artosis and Tasteless does nothing to ensure people gets their promised kept? Is this.. Close to what happend or am I understanding wrong? it was mismanaged and delayed, but a product (whether it is inferior or not is up to debate) was released. donators didn't receive what was promised to them in kickstarter (credits, posters, etc.). tastosis have been mostly silent, but i recall that artosis said negative things towards people attacking the producer. tastosis although originally promoting support for the project really don't have a bone to pick in the matter. rest is speculation and people being upset. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
here is the last mention of the SOS project I was able to find. http://www.ongamers.com/articles/extra-part-added-to-sons-of-starcraft/1100-204/ | ||
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